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Fishing for Largemouth Bass
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We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) Lloyd |
do I need a 225hp
boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) LOL! It helps, since it scares undesireable fish away, leaving the bass ripe for the pickin'! g You could also find yourself a nice fishing spot on the shore and catch a 6 1/2 pounder as I did many moons ago. --Mike "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) Lloyd |
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? Later, Tom |
Lloyd, a lot is dependent on the water temp. Is the temp. rising, or
lowering? Fishing for bass is quite the chess game, therefore, the nature of your second and third sentences isn't needed. That being said, what are the bass in your area feeding on? If the fish are in the shallows, then the very first thing I try anywhere, is a chartreuse Berkeley rubber worm, Texas rigged. Look for a likely hiding spot, like a tree downfall, or other structure, toss beyond that point, and slowly work the worm. If there are shiners, or other such minnows that they are feeding on, you may try a spinner bait for a few casts. If the banks are steep, like cliffs, you can vertical jig a spoon, like a Rattlesnake down the bank. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Lloyd |
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) ================= Absolutely. The fish don't care of course, but you will never get any publicity or sponsorship money without the flash and dash. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect reason, but a good one. Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty degrees F or so - that's when they become very active. The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits in bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas. I prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs. Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work. Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings. Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc. Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail was 175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300. It's all marketing. :) Later, Tom |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip.... since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass You talkin' about his Vinyl Valarie? |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:32:49 GMT, "Don White"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message snip.... since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass You talkin' about his Vinyl Valarie? It's a great lure, but the males are on the smallish side. Perhaps it would work with a lesbian largemouth bass? :) Later, Tom |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect reason, but a good one. Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty degrees F or so - that's when they become very active. The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits in bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas. I prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs. Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work. Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings. Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc. Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail was 175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300. It's all marketing. :) Later, Tom It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:43:05 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple. ============ Yes, and they take your license also which is where we will end up if not careful. If we tolerate reckless or annoying operation by others, we'll all end up in the same boat so to speak. |
We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) As far as the fast boats go, a friend of my father's used to fish bass tournaments, and the participants all left the starting line at the same time in the morning. The ones with the fastest boats got to the best fishing spots on the lake first and could claim a good spot as their "turf". In the evening as the deadline approached for fishermen to come to the dock and weigh their day's catch, the fast boats allowed them to stay on the water a little longer since they could make it back quickly. The metal-flake paint and Nascar clothing? I think that's just a redneck thing... :) |
Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect reason, but a good one. Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty degrees F or so - that's when they become very active. The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits in bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas. I prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs. Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work. Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings. Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc. Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail was 175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300. It's all marketing. :) Later, Tom It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple. What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding? |
Lloyd Sumpter wrote: And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Lloyd Most of the lakes here have lots of coves, rivers, etc. and actually have many miles of shoreline. Lake Lanier for instance, has almost 700 miles of shoreline. Most bass fishing is done close to shore. Bass tournament fisherman are starting from the same place, same time, and want to get to where they think the fish will be as soon as possible. This quickly transposed to the local guys wanting fast boats. I have to say, it is nice fun to go like hell when conditions are good. Now, back to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water temp? |
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote:
Now, back to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water temp? The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10 meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of vegetation!). Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early - these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer. BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater) Lloyd |
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a
plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Bill "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:39:09 -0800, atl_man2 wrote: Now, back to these lakes you will be on, are they deep, and do the banks drop off fast, or are there quite a lot of shallows? Any guess on the water temp? The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10 meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of vegetation!). Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early - these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer. BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater) Lloyd |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? -- Greetings from Lotusland |
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Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 10 Mar 2005 13:31:55 -0800, wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect reason, but a good one. Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty degrees F or so - that's when they become very active. The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits in bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas. I prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs. Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work. Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings. Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc. Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail was 175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300. It's all marketing. :) Later, Tom It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple. What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding? CT. Later, Tom CA for over a 100. Show me. |
Lloyd Sumpter wrote: The ones illegally stocked with bass are all pretty shallow, less than 10 meters deep at the most, with lots of shallows 1-2 meters (with lots of vegetation!). I'd certainly start with a Texas rig, look for structure like down fall, rocks, etc in the shallow water, cast beyond that, twitch the worm along slowly, like raise the rod tip about a foot, then let the worm fall to the bottom again, reel in slack, wait ten seconds or so, repeat. Water temp this time of year? Probably around 10 C, obviously warmer in the shallows and cooler down deep. It's too bad this "fish-in" is so early - these shallow lakes get over 20 C in the summer. BTW: Several others have mentioned "Texas rig" and "Carolina rig" - can someone describe these, please? (I get the feeling they'd both be illegal he we're mainly single-barbless hooks in freshwater) Lloyd Lloyd, here's a couple of links, the first, lots of bass fishing info: http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...Y_14_0_FISHING And this one will give you specific examples of various rigs, Texas, Carolina (a biggy here!), drop shot, etc. I think that seeing how you aren't an experienced bass fisher, I'd stick to soft plastics. Get some chartreuse colored six inch lizards, Zoom makes some good ones. Rig them the same, Texas style, just like the worm pictured he http://www.fish-hawk.net/tips/wormrig/wormrig.php |
Calif Bill wrote: CA for over a 100. They can take your car for propositioning a hooker. The politico's want money. Not for speeding. You can, however, get your car taken away, if you are found guilty of RECKLESS DRIVING involving speeds over 100mph. A simple speeding ticket for 100mph will net in a huge fine, possible loss of license for a period. |
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Lloyd Use Live Bait. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of tournaments. Trolling is also effective. Now, is there really evidence that the bass are adversely impacting the trout? Or is this really just snobbery? Are Salmon native to those lakes? You aren't stocking the non-native german brown trout? Here in Minnesota, the only native trout are really char.... the lake trout and the brook trout. Browns and Rainbows are imports. del cecchi |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:
Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Bill Ahhhh! I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff on the bottom to snag! I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink hook-up. I should give them a try. Lloyd |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:19 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote:
x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: • Mill Lake - Abbotsford B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Hatzic Lake - Mission B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Chadsey Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Sturgeon Slough - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Brunette River - Coquitlam, B.C. - (rumored) Largemouth Bass • Judson Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Pepin Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • N. Alouette River - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Fish Trap Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Glochester Ponds - Aldergrove, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • West Creek - Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Salmon River - Fort Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Kawkawa Lake - Hope, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass (few) • Albert Dyck Park - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Widgeon Creek (also mentioned in the thread) • Walmsley Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Boundary Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Laxton Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site Okanagan: • Osoyoos Lake - near town of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Skaha Lake - near Penticton and Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Vaseux Lake - S. of Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Deadman Lake - N. of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Okanagan River - From Okanagan Lake to Osoyoos Lake - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass Kootenays: • Duck Lake - North of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Christina Lake - 22 km. E. of Grand Forks, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Kootenay Lake Flats - S. end of lake near Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Summit Creek (slough) - W. of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Jim Smith Lake - 7 km. SW. of Cranbrook, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Baynes Lake - 11 km. SW. of Elko, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Tie Lake - N. of Jaffray, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass Lloyd |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:49:24 -0600, Del Cecchi
wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Lloyd Use Live Bait. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of tournaments. Trolling is also effective. Now, is there really evidence that the bass are adversely impacting the trout? Or is this really just snobbery? Are Salmon native to those lakes? You aren't stocking the non-native german brown trout? Here in Minnesota, the only native trout are really char.... the lake trout and the brook trout. Browns and Rainbows are imports. Not to be argumentative, but the only true fresh water "trout" in the US is the golden trout. No joke - I read about this a couple of years ago. It exists no where else in the world and some biologists have done comparison DNA studies against other species of trout developing the theory that this is actually the only trout that existed in North America prior to the introduction of other trouts by what ever means they made it here. If that convoluted sentence makes any sense at all. :) I'm searching around in my libarary to find the article. I can't remember which magazine it was in. I'll find it. |
Del Cecchi wrote: Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Lloyd Use Live Bait. Sometimes live bait works better than artificials, and sometimes artificials work better. Around here, when the fish are finicky, a soft plastic Zoom lizard is THE go-to bait. Even after it has rained, and the fish have been sitting at the creek mouths gorging on minnows for days, they will still hit a plastic lizard, because spring lizards are their natural enemy. The lizards love to eat the fry. The pros don't because it is not allowed by rules of tournaments. Trolling is also effective. Trolling for largemouth bass???? With WHAT? del cecchi |
Calif Bill wrote: Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker, so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the weight. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP structure. |
wrote in message ps.com... Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 10 Mar 2005 13:31:55 -0800, wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:04:32 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:08:48 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) No, you need a 300 hp boat and since you asked, no - you don't have to dress like a NASCAR driver. Bra, crotchless panties, fishnet stockings and black stiletto heels are the secret to catching large mouth bass - the pros only wear the branded clothing when they are on TV. Just out of curiosity, what's the point of the fish-in? OK, here's the Story: Bass are not native to BC. Somebody has illegally dumped them into several lakes in the area. Now, bass compete with trout and salmon, which ARE native, and we spend lots of tax dollars every year enhancing the stocks with hatcheries. So - we want to publicize this problem and try to reducs the bass stocks and give the trout a better chance. And have some fun fishing while we're at it! And yes, bass fishermen are kind of a joke around here. I mean, do you REALLY need that much HP to get around a lake thats only 1/2 a mile wide?? (The lakes we'll be targetting have no boat launch, and are restricted to electric motors only) Ah - well, that is certainly a good reason. Not quite a perfect reason, but a good one. Bass fishing that far north takes some minor skills, but you really need to put this fish-in when the water warms to around fifty degrees F or so - that's when they become very active. The best way to fish is to use darker color plastic worms (like blueberry or grape), Senko lures (6"green shades) or spinner baits in bright colors. Two best ways to rig the worms - Carolina or Texas. I prefer Texas, but I occasionally have success with Carolina rigs. Last, use shiners, but that can be problematic as you will probably have to sit on a breeding bed to get that to work. Have fun. Don't forget the fishnet stockings. Oh, and to answer your HP question - no, you really don't need that kind of HP, but in the bass world, it's monkey see, monkey do. It used to be that 18 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then it used to be that 20 foot bass boats were the best because that's what the pros used. Then....etc. Believe this or not, ten years ago, the HP limit on the bass trail was 175. Then it went to 225 now it's 300. It's all marketing. :) Later, Tom It is because you can drive 100 mph in a bass boat legally. In a car, they take the car and a lot of money for driving that fast. Simple. What state is it that they "take the car" for speeding? CT. Later, Tom CA for over a 100. Show me. You are not from Missouri. Do the research yourself. |
wrote in message oups.com... Calif Bill wrote: CA for over a 100. They can take your car for propositioning a hooker. The politico's want money. Not for speeding. You can, however, get your car taken away, if you are found guilty of RECKLESS DRIVING involving speeds over 100mph. A simple speeding ticket for 100mph will net in a huge fine, possible loss of license for a period. Easy to tag a reckless driving on a 100 mph ticket. Only takes 3 laws broken to stick you. And they take the car. Drive 95, and reckless and they do not get the car. Therefore as was stated, they can take your car! |
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:30:55 +0000, Calif Bill wrote: Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Bill Ahhhh! I used a "Carolina rig" when I was a kid, fishing for cutts (just didn't call it that!). We also use a variation where the weight is on the end of the line and the hook is 20-50cm up (called a "bar rig"). But I like the idea of hooking the hook back into the worm - we DO have lots of stuff on the bottom to snag! I also have some flies that are weighted on the "back" so they sink hook-up. I should give them a try. Lloyd For flys, use a little cork popper type. |
wrote in message ups.com... Calif Bill wrote: Texas rigged is a weight right against the hook. The hook is buried in a plastic worm, so the worm is straight and the hook comes out of the worm and then is hooked back in to the skin of the worm, making it weedless. The Carolina rig is same hook, but a geavy weight, then a swivel and then 15-20" leader to the hook. Nope. With a Carolina rig, the weight is ABOVE the swivel, which is usually around 3 or 4 feet above the hook. The weight is an egg sinker, so it will go to the bottom, and the line will slide through the weight. Carolina rig is probably not great in BC, as it is for muddy, silted in bottoms. Nope. the Carolina rig CAN be used in silty situations, but is isn't FOR them. There are many, many areas, and conditions where a Carolina rig is affective. Further, it was first developed to fish DEEP structure. I said it was above the swivel. Read for understanding. And DEEP in the south is not DEEP in the west. The big weight made a commotion in the silt and the worm stayed above the bottom. |
I take it that bass are not native to B.C.?
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:19 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote: x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: • Mill Lake - Abbotsford B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Hatzic Lake - Mission B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Chadsey Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Sturgeon Slough - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Brunette River - Coquitlam, B.C. - (rumored) Largemouth Bass • Judson Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Pepin Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • N. Alouette River - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Fish Trap Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Glochester Ponds - Aldergrove, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • West Creek - Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Salmon River - Fort Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Kawkawa Lake - Hope, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass (few) • Albert Dyck Park - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Widgeon Creek (also mentioned in the thread) • Walmsley Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Boundary Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Laxton Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site Okanagan: • Osoyoos Lake - near town of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Skaha Lake - near Penticton and Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Vaseux Lake - S. of Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Deadman Lake - N. of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Okanagan River - From Okanagan Lake to Osoyoos Lake - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass Kootenays: • Duck Lake - North of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Christina Lake - 22 km. E. of Grand Forks, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Kootenay Lake Flats - S. end of lake near Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Summit Creek (slough) - W. of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Jim Smith Lake - 7 km. SW. of Cranbrook, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Baynes Lake - 11 km. SW. of Elko, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Tie Lake - N. of Jaffray, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass Lloyd |
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Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: Okanagan: Kootenays: Lloyd, I am a bit confused here. The list that you posted looks more like infestation than just a case of illegal stocking. Surely if the species are in so many places, the government would have noticed this before and doen something about it? Also, I am not sure who is the "we're having" and what is a "fish-in". Are you suggesting that a group of organized volunteers are offering to assist the provincial conservation authorities in eradication of an improperly introduced species of weed fish that could potentially crowd out native species, or a bunch of guys are having a good time over a weekend, or what exactly is it we're talking about? Further, you mention a number of tributaries of the Fraser river but not the Fraser herself. Are the fish not in the Fraser or just the "fish-in" is not going to take place there? If this is intended to eliminate/reduce population of a non-native species, is fishing licence still required for this apparent public service? -- Greetings from Lotusland |
Other than eating a few trout, the bass and salmonids live together fairly
well. Big trout also eat a few smaller bass. The Umqua River in Oregon is one of the premier smallmouth bass streams in the USA. Also a very excellent salmon and Steelhead river. Bill "Steve Thomas" wrote in message . .. I take it that bass are not native to B.C.? "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:17:19 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote: x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: • Mill Lake - Abbotsford B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Hatzic Lake - Mission B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Chadsey Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Sturgeon Slough - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Brunette River - Coquitlam, B.C. - (rumored) Largemouth Bass • Judson Lake - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Pepin Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • N. Alouette River - Pitt Meadows, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Fish Trap Creek - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Glochester Ponds - Aldergrove, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • West Creek - Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Salmon River - Fort Langley, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Kawkawa Lake - Hope, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass (few) • Albert Dyck Park - Abbotsford, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Widgeon Creek (also mentioned in the thread) • Walmsley Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Boundary Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site • Laxton Lake, Abbotsford (LM) from WCBA site Okanagan: • Osoyoos Lake - near town of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Skaha Lake - near Penticton and Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Vaseux Lake - S. of Okanagan Falls, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Deadman Lake - N. of Osoyoos, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Okanagan River - From Okanagan Lake to Osoyoos Lake - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass Kootenays: • Duck Lake - North of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Christina Lake - 22 km. E. of Grand Forks, B.C. - Largemouth & Smallmouth Bass • Kootenay Lake Flats - S. end of lake near Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Summit Creek (slough) - W. of Creston, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Jim Smith Lake - 7 km. SW. of Cranbrook, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Baynes Lake - 11 km. SW. of Elko, B.C. - Largemouth Bass • Tie Lake - N. of Jaffray, B.C. - Smallmouth Bass Lloyd |
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:46:10 +0000, Karl Pollak wrote:
x-no-archive: yes Lloyd Sumpter wrote: We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. Where? Fraser Valley: Okanagan: Kootenays: Lloyd, I am a bit confused here. The list that you posted looks more like infestation than just a case of illegal stocking. Surely if the species are in so many places, the government would have noticed this before and doen something about it? Ok, I'll try to explain what's going on here. There's an organized group of individuals who are lobbying to introduce bass as a sport fish in BC. They have illegally stocked many lakes and sloughs and have successfully lobbies the DFO to have bass mentioned as a "sport fish" in the regs. (so yes, we need a license. We'd need one anyway, because you can't FISH without one. You can't say "Oh, but Officer, I was fishing for pikeminnows, so I don't need a license...") BTW: there are so many places mentioned because, well, they're all kinda connected together. Introduce them in one lake, and soon they migrate to any other lakes or streams in the area. I suspect there aren't many bass in the Fraser itself because first, the water stays pretty cold, and second, there are some BIG fish there that would probably eat bass. Another BTW: It's illegal in BC for ANYONE except the Govt to transport live fish from one body of water to another. In fact, livewells are illegal in freshwater - you must either kill or release any fish you catch. Now, there's also a semi-organized group of individuals who do NOT want bass in BC. We're happy with the sport fish we have here already, and have seen the results of introducing non-native species in an ecology, especially without proper studies. So, the "fish-in" is mainly an opportunity just to have some fun, but also to bring "our side" of the story to the attention of others. I doubt that 4 fish each will do any damage to the bass population... Lloyd |
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:18:09 -0800, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote: Hi, We're having a fish-in in April targeting the (illegally-stocked) largemouth bass in the Vancouver area. I've never fished for bass befo any hints? And do I need a 225hp boat and do I need to dress like a NASCAR driver? ;) Lloyd I cuurnetly hold the large-mouth record in 6 states. Sorry, those secrets I cant share. |
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Harry Krause wrote: I cuurnetly hold the large-mouth record in 6 states. Sorry, those secrets I cant share. That's understandable, but can you at least tell us just how large is your mouth so that we can tell what kind of record we're aiming at? :-) -- Greetings from Lotusland |
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