Bert wrote:

The only good communist is a dead communist. This goes for socialists
too!

***********
Careful.

Without communists, you wouldn't have the earliest decades of the
Christian church. Without the earliest decades, what would you have
today?

Without socialists, you wouldn't have the Pledge of Allegiance. (pledge
was written by a socialist)

Now what would you righties do all day if you couldn't yak on about the
US being a "Christian nation" or repeat the Pledge of Allegiance like a
rosary?

Without socialism, you wouldn't have social security. Nobody drawing a
government SS benefit has the moral right to complain about socialism,
unless they send their monthly socialist proceeds back to the treasury.
I have a mental image of you as well up into your senior years. If I'm
correct, have you sent your socialist proceeds back yet?

On 7 Mar 2005 19:23:05 -0800, wrote:

Bert wrote:

The only good communist is a dead communist. This goes for socialists
too!

***********
Careful.

Without communists, you wouldn't have the earliest decades of the
Christian church. Without the earliest decades, what would you have
today?

Without socialists, you wouldn't have the Pledge of Allegiance. (pledge
was written by a socialist)

Now what would you righties do all day if you couldn't yak on about the
US being a "Christian nation" or repeat the Pledge of Allegiance like a
rosary?

Without socialism, you wouldn't have social security. Nobody drawing a
government SS benefit has the moral right to complain about socialism,
unless they send their monthly socialist proceeds back to the treasury.
I have a mental image of you as well up into your senior years. If I'm
correct, have you sent your socialist proceeds back yet?

Do lefties not say the Pledge? This is a new concept for me - that saying the
Pledge is a 'righties' thing.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"John H" wrote in message
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On 7 Mar 2005 19:23:05 -0800, wrote:

Bert wrote:

The only good communist is a dead communist. This goes for socialists
too!

***********
Careful.

Without communists, you wouldn't have the earliest decades of the
Christian church. Without the earliest decades, what would you have
today?

Without socialists, you wouldn't have the Pledge of Allegiance. (pledge
was written by a socialist)

Now what would you righties do all day if you couldn't yak on about the
US being a "Christian nation" or repeat the Pledge of Allegiance like a
rosary?

Without socialism, you wouldn't have social security. Nobody drawing a
government SS benefit has the moral right to complain about socialism,
unless they send their monthly socialist proceeds back to the treasury.
I have a mental image of you as well up into your senior years. If I'm
correct, have you sent your socialist proceeds back yet?

Do lefties not say the Pledge? This is a new concept for me - that saying
the
Pledge is a 'righties' thing.


Classic liebral think.....Nobody has a moral right to complain about
socialism because of SS. I think chuck is competing for the crown of
"King"
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......AND
'proceeds'...........a 2% return on the stolen money....and chuck wants to
call it proceeds? He is really giving the current "king" a run for his
money.



John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Fits wrote:

Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......AND
'proceeds'...........a 2% return on the stolen money....and chuck wants
to
call it proceeds? He is really giving the current "king" a run for
his
money.

***************

Today's standard: "Socialism is OK when it directly benefits me. I will
justify my suck on the government teat by pointing out that I was
forced, through taxation, to contribute to the government
during my working years and that because I am special I now deserve to
get my money back. Socialism in not OK when it benefits somebody else.
The only good Socialist is a dead socialist, but hands off the
socialist who signs the monthly check for my little piece of the
socialist security system, please."

Fits wrote:
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......

Sure it does.

Accepting a Social Security benefits check... which is socialism...
while complaining about socialism, especially saying that socialists
ought to be killed... is just outright hypocrisy.

Hey Bert Robo-tard, if you want to kill a Socialist maybe you should
start with P.Fritz?

... AND
'proceeds'...........a 2% return on the stolen money....and chuck wants
to
call it proceeds?

You're right, it's not "proceeds", it's money taken from those that are
currently working. You are confusing Social Security with an investment
plan.


wrote:
Today's standard: "Socialism is OK when it directly benefits me. I will
justify my suck on the government teat by pointing out that I was
forced, through taxation, to contribute to the government
during my working years and that because I am special I now deserve to
get my money back. Socialism in not OK when it benefits somebody else.
The only good Socialist is a dead socialist, but hands off the
socialist who signs the monthly check for my little piece of the
socialist security system, please."


Too many words, Chuck.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Fits wrote:
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......

Sure it does.

Accepting a Social Security benefits check... which is socialism... while
complaining about socialism, especially saying that socialists ought to be
killed... is just outright hypocrisy.

I'd happily forgo my Social Security check later in life as long as I am
exempt from paying FICA today.

NOYB wrote:
I'd happily forgo my Social Security check later in life as long as I am
exempt from paying FICA today.


Same here, and I'm a lot closer to collecting than you are. If Bush &
Cheney were seriously interested in reforming or fixing Social Security
(instead of their plan being a subterfuge to harvest campaign
contributions from Wall St), they'd offer that option.

However, you're forgetting the other half of the equation. The SS Trust
is the biggest under writer of the U.S. deficit, which Bush/Cheney have
increased enormously. By bowing out of the SS plan, you'd be effectively
voting with your dollars.

DSK

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Fits wrote:
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......

Sure it does.

Accepting a Social Security benefits check... which is socialism... while
complaining about socialism, especially saying that socialists ought to
be killed... is just outright hypocrisy.

I'd happily forgo my Social Security check later in life as long as I am
exempt from paying FICA today.

Exactly......

In the mean time, I consider it getting stolen money back, not accepting
socialism, nor is it hypocrisy.

I could retire years ahead, or pass money on to others, if it were not being
stolen from me.

NOYB wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Fits wrote:
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......

Sure it does.

Accepting a Social Security benefits check... which is socialism... while
complaining about socialism, especially saying that socialists ought to be
killed... is just outright hypocrisy.


I'd happily forgo my Social Security check later in life as long as I am
exempt from paying FICA today.


Remember that SS is for more than retirement. Should you get hit by a
truck tomorrow, and are unable to work, you get to collect. If the
truck kills you, your wife and kids (assuming you have any) also collect.

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:06:49 -0500, DSK wrote:

Fits wrote:
Accepting the guvmint check returning the money that has essentially
been
stolen from you every year of your working life....more or less at gun
point.......does NOT negate the complaint against socialism.......

Sure it does.

Accepting a Social Security benefits check... which is socialism...
while complaining about socialism, especially saying that socialists
ought to be killed... is just outright hypocrisy.

Hey Bert Robo-tard, if you want to kill a Socialist maybe you should
start with P.Fritz?

... AND
'proceeds'...........a 2% return on the stolen money....and chuck wants
to
call it proceeds?

You're right, it's not "proceeds", it's money taken from those that are
currently wo
rking. You are confusing Social Security with an investment
plan.


wrote:
Today's standard: "Socialism is OK when it directly benefits me. I will
justify my suck on the government teat by pointing out that I was
forced, through taxation, to contribute to the government
during my working years and that because I am special I now deserve to
get my money back. Socialism in not OK when it benefits somebody else.
The only good Socialist is a dead socialist, but hands off the
socialist who signs the monthly check for my little piece of the
socialist security system, please."


Too many words, Chuck.

DSK


I would have been much happier putting my FICA into a plan of my choice. The
government picked the plan I had to use. The fact that I get back money that I
put in sure doesn't make me a socialist.

But, if your idea of socialism is accepting a social security check, what do you
call liberals who do so? Extremist Socialists?

Wow!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."