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On 4 Mar 2005 08:36:14 -0800, wrote:

Mule wrote:

Warmongers?
How about all the people like yourself that oppose any action in Iraq
and just wanted to let Saddam keep the status quo, doesn't that make
all of you oppressors or at least enablers?

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People who opposed taking any sort of action in Iraq and "just wanted
to let Saddam keep the status quo" are very much un-like myself, so the
rest of your nonsense is barely worthy of a reply.

People like myself would have at least heard what Hussein had to say
when he asked for a meeting with Bush or the Secty of State just hours
before the invasion began, rather than responding that it was "too
late" for diplomacy. Heck, for all we know he might have offered to go
into exile if we'd let him take a couple of billion of his bucks with
him. We would have been hundreds of billions ahead, with 100,000 deaths
and injuries prevented, and probably further into the political reform
of Iraq than we are today. When we faced the Russians in the Cuban
Missle Crisis we used the military to make the other side "blink". That
was statesmanship. We prevailed. Using the other side's "blink" as a
prime opportunity to hit the opponent with eyes closed may be
effective, but it's not statesmanship and it will come back to bite us
on the butt.

Perhaps you're correct, Chuck. Perhaps Saddam was going to capitulate at the
last moment, tell us where all the bad stuff was, stop killing his people by the
hundred-thousands, and promise not to attack anyone ever again.

But if we'd listened to all that there wouldn't have been elections in Iraq,
there wouldn't have been a capitulation by Libya, there wouldn't have been
elections in Saudi Arabia, or newfound democratic intentions in Egypt, or the
departure of Syrian troops from Lebanon, or any change whatsoever in any of the
attitudes in the mideast.

Chirac and crew would still be getting millions from the oil for food program,
along with half (it seems) of the UN bureaucracy, hundreds of thousands of men,
women and children would still be in mass graves, and everything would be
hunky-dory.

When we faced the Soviets in the Cuban Missile Crisis, we didn't worry about
what the UN, or France, or Germany thought. We just did what we had to do.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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