"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:16:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..


No. The OP posted a story which claimed the number to be fact. The
author
certainly estimated, and probably on the high side. But, that doesn't
matter. Let's try this again, and for the last time.

Since you believe religious zealots should not influence politics in the
Middle East, do you also believe they should NOT do the same here?


Yes.

Good. Write to your president. Better yet, scream at your legislators.
Your
president wouldn't understand anyway.

Why?

Because you want them to watch out for policies that stink of religious
fundamentalism. Why indeed.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:24:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 20:16:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...


No. The OP posted a story which claimed the number to be fact. The
author
certainly estimated, and probably on the high side. But, that doesn't
matter. Let's try this again, and for the last time.

Since you believe religious zealots should not influence politics in the
Middle East, do you also believe they should NOT do the same here?


Yes.

Good. Write to your president. Better yet, scream at your legislators.
Your
president wouldn't understand anyway.

Why?

Because you want them to watch out for policies that stink of religious
fundamentalism. Why indeed.


Now you've come full-circle again. To what policies are you referring? Is Bush
about to start lobbing nukes to bring about this 'rapture' you folks seem so
enthralled with?


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On 2 Mar 2005 14:19:12 -0800, wrote:

Are these your kind of people? Do you on the right agree
with this way of thinking? Sam

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forum...showtopic=2453

Proof that kooks exist and call themselves Christians.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Here's a short list of the people quoted:
Goerge W. Bush
Pat Robertson
Rev Jerry Falwell
Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Supreme Court Judge William Reinquist
Ralph Reed
Ann Coulter
Cal Thomas
Sen. Kay O'Conner
John Ashcroft
Sen. James Inhofe
Gen. William Boykin
Rush Limbaugh
Gov. Jeb Bush
I'm thinking you didn't read the forum if you are saying these people
are kooks. Sam

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Mark Twain

Adds little credence to the issue.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
On 2 Mar 2005 14:19:12 -0800, wrote:

Are these your kind of people? Do you on the right agree
with this way of thinking? Sam

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forum...showtopic=2453

Proof that kooks exist and call themselves Christians.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Here's a short list of the people quoted:
Goerge W. Bush
Pat Robertson
Rev Jerry Falwell
Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Supreme Court Judge William Reinquist
Ralph Reed
Ann Coulter
Cal Thomas
Sen. Kay O'Conner
John Ashcroft
Sen. James Inhofe
Gen. William Boykin
Rush Limbaugh
Gov. Jeb Bush
I'm thinking you didn't read the forum if you are saying these
people
are kooks. Sam

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who
are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Mark Twain

Adds little credence to the issue.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Yes, you're right. It doesn't add 'credence' to the issue of the
correct numbers and it doesn't have a whole lot to say about the
original issue concerning world affairs being swayed by belief in the
Rapture. I agree with you that it's proof that a lot of those people
are 'kooks', and will just assume that since they are religous
republicans, you agree with them and their way of thinking is allright.
Thanks, Sam

On 2 Mar 2005 15:27:15 -0800, wrote:


John H wrote:
On 2 Mar 2005 14:19:12 -0800, wrote:

Are these your kind of people? Do you on the right agree
with this way of thinking? Sam

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/forum...showtopic=2453

Proof that kooks exist and call themselves Christians.

John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Here's a short list of the people quoted:
Goerge W. Bush
Pat Robertson
Rev Jerry Falwell
Dr. Laura Schlessinger
Supreme Court Judge William Reinquist
Ralph Reed
Ann Coulter
Cal Thomas
Sen. Kay O'Conner
John Ashcroft
Sen. James Inhofe
Gen. William Boykin
Rush Limbaugh
Gov. Jeb Bush
I'm thinking you didn't read the forum if you are saying these
people
are kooks. Sam

"Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who
are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Mark Twain

Adds little credence to the issue.


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Yes, you're right. It doesn't add 'credence' to the issue of the
correct numbers and it doesn't have a whole lot to say about the
original issue concerning world affairs being swayed by belief in the
Rapture. I agree with you that it's proof that a lot of those people
are 'kooks', and will just assume that since they are religous
republicans, you agree with them and their way of thinking is allright.
Thanks, Sam

What, Sam, did you find when you read the first two links? What quotes do you
find in the remainder that supports any undue 'rapturous' or otherwise influence
on the President?

It's very easy to quote something out of context, or 'say' that someone said
something they didn't.

I have no faith in anything these kooks said. But, maybe you can convince me
otherwise. It's for sure that typing a list of names doesn't do it.




John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


My Jewish relatives? Hmmm. I don't recall discussing or even
mentioning
my personal religious preferences here. Perhaps you might enlighten
us.


you most likely have Jewish relatives, since your name is Krause. My
sister
in law is Jewish, and I am Irish / Norwegian background.




This is your scientific approach? You should get yourself a job as a WMD
hunter for the Bush Administration.

Eddie "Moose" Krause wasn't Jewish. Of course, his real last name wss
Krauciunas. I don't believe the name "Krause" is anything more than a
German-origin last name.

My paternal grandfather's "real" last name wasn't Krause, either. He and
his brother got that name from an immigration agent when they landed on
Ellis Island. Though they were Russians, they were on board a ship that
began its journey in Germany. When my grandfather and great uncle
arrived
here, the agent said their name was too long and too difficult to
pronounce, so he gave them the name of the guy in front of them.

That's what my grandfather told me. And I did see some paperwork from
"the
old country" with his "real" name on it.

During the late 1930s, my father and his brother spent a bit of time
investigating whether they wanted to change the family name back to what
it was. But by then both of them were working for my great uncle at his
stores, and though that operation had an entirely different trade name,
it
was known as "the Krause family business," so they kept the name.

That's what my dad and uncle told me many years later. They were born in
the Philadelphia area.

My mother's father was born in some awful little town on the
German-Polish
border, and the "ownership" of that town changed hands between those two
countries many times. His family name was solidly German, but because of
geography, he spoke German and Polish fluently, and a half-dozen other
European languages, too.

My mother was born in Boston.

I don't consider myself a hyphenated American. If pressed, I'd say I'm a
Tankee, because I was born in New England and was reared and educated
there, for the most part. My wife is a southern belle, and has that soft
southern accent to prove it.


Harry: Based on Bill's logic, and the information you've provided here,
it's
safe to conclude that there's between 32 and 34 pounds of air in my
tires.



Not if the temperature drops well below freezing. Well, it might, if it
started out a lot higher.

Bill has a problem with logic, which makes me wonder how the hell he
ever became an engineer.

You say I have a problem with logic, and you appear to agree with Doug's
logic. I can see why you stayed in liberal arts.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



My Jewish relatives? Hmmm. I don't recall discussing or even

mentioning

my personal religious preferences here. Perhaps you might enlighten

us.


you most likely have Jewish relatives, since your name is Krause. My
sister
in law is Jewish, and I am Irish / Norwegian background.




This is your scientific approach? You should get yourself a job as a
WMD
hunter for the Bush Administration.

Eddie "Moose" Krause wasn't Jewish. Of course, his real last name wss
Krauciunas. I don't believe the name "Krause" is anything more than a
German-origin last name.

My paternal grandfather's "real" last name wasn't Krause, either. He
and
his brother got that name from an immigration agent when they landed
on
Ellis Island. Though they were Russians, they were on board a ship
that
began its journey in Germany. When my grandfather and great uncle

arrived

here, the agent said their name was too long and too difficult to
pronounce, so he gave them the name of the guy in front of them.

That's what my grandfather told me. And I did see some paperwork from

"the

old country" with his "real" name on it.

During the late 1930s, my father and his brother spent a bit of time
investigating whether they wanted to change the family name back to
what
it was. But by then both of them were working for my great uncle at
his
stores, and though that operation had an entirely different trade
name,

it

was known as "the Krause family business," so they kept the name.

That's what my dad and uncle told me many years later. They were born
in
the Philadelphia area.

My mother's father was born in some awful little town on the

German-Polish

border, and the "ownership" of that town changed hands between those
two
countries many times. His family name was solidly German, but because
of
geography, he spoke German and Polish fluently, and a half-dozen other
European languages, too.

My mother was born in Boston.

I don't consider myself a hyphenated American. If pressed, I'd say I'm
a
Tankee, because I was born in New England and was reared and educated
there, for the most part. My wife is a southern belle, and has that
soft
southern accent to prove it.


Harry: Based on Bill's logic, and the information you've provided here,

it's

safe to conclude that there's between 32 and 34 pounds of air in my

tires.


Not if the temperature drops well below freezing. Well, it might, if it
started out a lot higher.

Bill has a problem with logic, which makes me wonder how the hell he
ever became an engineer.


You say I have a problem with logic, and you appear to agree with Doug's
logic. I can see why you stayed in liberal arts.



I'm not the one who came to a conclusion about "your" religious
background based upon incorrect assumptions about a family name. You
ought to apply for a job with the Bush-crap Administration.

I said your relatives. Did not state your religion. You already screwed up
the Democratic party with your ideas.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


My Jewish relatives? Hmmm. I don't recall discussing or even
mentioning
my personal religious preferences here. Perhaps you might enlighten
us.


you most likely have Jewish relatives, since your name is Krause. My
sister
in law is Jewish, and I am Irish / Norwegian background.




This is your scientific approach? You should get yourself a job as a
WMD
hunter for the Bush Administration.

Eddie "Moose" Krause wasn't Jewish. Of course, his real last name wss
Krauciunas. I don't believe the name "Krause" is anything more than a
German-origin last name.

My paternal grandfather's "real" last name wasn't Krause, either. He
and
his brother got that name from an immigration agent when they landed on
Ellis Island. Though they were Russians, they were on board a ship that
began its journey in Germany. When my grandfather and great uncle
arrived
here, the agent said their name was too long and too difficult to
pronounce, so he gave them the name of the guy in front of them.

That's what my grandfather told me. And I did see some paperwork from
"the
old country" with his "real" name on it.

During the late 1930s, my father and his brother spent a bit of time
investigating whether they wanted to change the family name back to
what
it was. But by then both of them were working for my great uncle at his
stores, and though that operation had an entirely different trade name,
it
was known as "the Krause family business," so they kept the name.

That's what my dad and uncle told me many years later. They were born
in
the Philadelphia area.

My mother's father was born in some awful little town on the
German-Polish
border, and the "ownership" of that town changed hands between those
two
countries many times. His family name was solidly German, but because
of
geography, he spoke German and Polish fluently, and a half-dozen other
European languages, too.

My mother was born in Boston.

I don't consider myself a hyphenated American. If pressed, I'd say I'm
a
Tankee, because I was born in New England and was reared and educated
there, for the most part. My wife is a southern belle, and has that
soft
southern accent to prove it.


Harry: Based on Bill's logic, and the information you've provided here,
it's
safe to conclude that there's between 32 and 34 pounds of air in my
tires.



Not if the temperature drops well below freezing. Well, it might, if it
started out a lot higher.

Bill has a problem with logic, which makes me wonder how the hell he
ever became an engineer.

You say I have a problem with logic, and you appear to agree with Doug's
logic. I can see why you stayed in liberal arts.

You might want to read my message again, and then restate the paragraph
above. You missed something.

"John H" wrote in message
...


Good. Write to your president. Better yet, scream at your legislators.
Your
president wouldn't understand anyway.

Why?

Because you want them to watch out for policies that stink of religious
fundamentalism. Why indeed.


Now you've come full-circle again. To what policies are you referring? Is
Bush
about to start lobbing nukes to bring about this 'rapture' you folks seem
so
enthralled with?


John H

This is getting boring, so let's end it on a simple note. First of all,
pretend this happening on paper. Take a fat, black marker and eliminate all
occurrences of the word "nukes". I don't know where it came from, and you
are fixated on it.

Next: "to what policies", you asked. From my point of view, ***ANY***
thoughts from American religious zealots regarding the Middle East should be
ignored completely by any president. Period. The region is too hot,
emotionally, for some people to view it with any kind of objectivity. Even
sane people have a hard time with it. The insane can only be worse.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:32:16 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .


Good. Write to your president. Better yet, scream at your legislators.
Your
president wouldn't understand anyway.

Why?

Because you want them to watch out for policies that stink of religious
fundamentalism. Why indeed.


Now you've come full-circle again. To what policies are you referring? Is
Bush
about to start lobbing nukes to bring about this 'rapture' you folks seem
so
enthralled with?


John H

This is getting boring, so let's end it on a simple note.

You're right.

First of all,
pretend this happening on paper. Take a fat, black marker and eliminate all
occurrences of the word "nukes". I don't know where it came from, and you
are fixated on it.


The 'nukes' came from the supposed requirement for an ending of the world to
achieve the 'rapture'.

Next: "to what policies", you asked. From my point of view, ***ANY***
thoughts from American religious zealots regarding the Middle East should be
ignored completely by any president. Period. The region is too hot,
emotionally, for some people to view it with any kind of objectivity. Even
sane people have a hard time with it. The insane can only be worse.


I agree that extremists from either religious *or* secular zealots should not be
the basis for decisions. They cannot, and should not, be totally ignored.
Senator Byrd, on the other hand, *should* be totally ignored.

Have a great day!


John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."