"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:24:19 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:49:27 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:19:58 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


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Wrong question again. It is assumed that any teacher performing at any
grade level has the skills to teach.

And that is the problem. Perhaps it can be traced back to Unions....eh?

Actually, no. In this state, CEA argued and lobbied unsuccessfully
against the Praxis which was the brain child of a former Dept of Ed
Commissioner who was a real...um...innovator.

In fact, the Praxis test and the whole mentoring system has failed
miserably allowing poorly qualified teachers into the system.

Kind of curious that.

In CT, a skills test must be
passed to obtain a teaching position.

That test shows that basic skill levels have been obtained....nothing
more.

Are you content with "basic level" teachers Tom? Not me,

I'm not at all sure what you mean by that. Everybody has to have a
basic level of understanding of anything before they can become
proficient at it. My first job as an engineer was checking drawings
and compiling/checking data points for Senior Engineers. It only
through the use of those basic skills that one gains experience and
technique.

I'm satisfied with basic skills under supervision which is pretty much
how it works now.

But to be straight forward, if you equate skill to years taught, then
yes - two year teachers should be paid the same - thirty year teachers
should be paid the same.

I never equated the skill level to number of years taught.

You did a good job skirting my original question, so I will ask it again:

1. Do you believe that all teachers in a school district, regardless of
skills deserve the same pay increase every year?

All teachers are not paid the same in any school district in CT. It's
based on years of service and education. And by definition a thirty
year teacher is, in theory, paid more than a two year teacher because
of experience, education and in-service skills.

Let me try it this way. If you mean that a two year teacher with a BS
degree should be paid the same as a two year teacher with a BS/MS,
then no - the two year teacher with the BS/MS should be paid more than
the teacher with the BS. That is a skills based criteria.

If you mean that a two year teacher with a BS/MS should be paid the
same as a thirty year teacher with a BS/MS, then no - the thirty year
teacher should be paid more because of seniority which translates to
experience and skills related to that experience.

Does that make more sense?

Of course teachers are paid differently according to the number of years on
the job. I never said anything differently....I said *pay increases* Tom.