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"Michael Daly" wrote in message ... On 25-Feb-2005, "rick" wrote: Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. It would take you a lot less time to post the link than to keep insisting that you already did. What are you afraid of? ===================== ROTFLMAO What a hoot. It would have been far quicker for you and kman to have looked for yourselves. But then, that would destroy some of your fantasys, wouldn't it? Again, I posted information, the ideologs here didn't like the messenger so they huffed and puffed their jingoistic buffoonery, and they have yet to refute the facts presented. Mike |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 12:00 AM: Did anyone else see it? ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. Why not simply state the date and time? ==================== The posts were already made. Do your own homework, fool... Neither I nor anyone else can see any post from you that provides evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message nk.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 12:05 AM: snip Has anyone seen rick post any reference (credible or otherwise) that proves Canadians are dying waiting in line for health care? If so, please provide a link. Thanks. ================= I realize that learning things contrary to your ideology is hard for you, but you really should try it sometime. Rather than just waving your hands and claiming who or who isn't credible, look it up. But then, you've already proven that that is too much for you, or to scary for you. maintaining your ignorance appears to be paramount to your mental well being. Neither I nor anyone else can see any post from you that provides evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. ================ You've asked the whole world have you? What a hoot fool. Again, why are you afraid to look up the info for yourself? Why do you want me to, whne I already have and you didn't like the messenger? Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at snip ====================== LOL Why can't you simply look it up for yourself? I've given you hints on where to look. But then, that would require some thought, and you have proven that independent thought isn't your thing. Neither I nor anyone else can see any post from you that provides evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================================== LOL Still pretending, eh fool? I see you are still afraid of the facts. Keep up the good work in proving your ignorant ideology. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. |
BCITORGB wrote: TnT says: =================== That there are subcultures that don't know how to properly exercise our rights, does not mean that the rest of us should be deprived of being able to exercise those rights ourselves. ================== Your argument is seductively simple, but it flies in the face of most laws that are passed to restrict your actions. Let's take a very simple example: lawn darts (at least that's what I think those "toys" were called). After some period of use, it became clear that these darts presented a serious danger to people using them in recreational activities in backyards and on picnics (that is, people ended up getting them stuck in their skulls). The darts were subsequently taken off the shelves at your local ToysRUs and, as far as I know, are no longer avalable for sale. Using your logic, we should all be outraged that, because of a few careless people, we've been denied the right to toss lethal darts in the air at our mother-in-law's picnic. That's the nature of laws in a civilized society -- the "people" decide that certain activities, products, whatever, do more harm to the "greater good" than it's worth. IMHO, guns fit into that category. Many of you Americans clearly disagree. As you can. But as you disagree, it might be useul to examine how much ownership of guns parallels ownership of lawn darts. In both cases, innocent people are injured and die due to accidents. Had the lawn darts/guns not been lying around, that misery could have been avoided. frtzw906 Please understand frtwz that I am not advocating the ownership of assault weapons or for that matter lawn darts. I am advocating the resposible exercise of our Constitutionally protected rights. The Constitutions does not say anything about lawn darts, though I agree that they are not needed at your mother-in-laws picnic, being the hazard that they are known to be and causing more harm to the greater good than they are worth. Guns are in a different category completely. Granted if taken to your mother-in-laws picnic, I do not know what good they would be used for depending on where the picnic is being held. If held in downtown NYC at central park, there is probably no place to legally exrcise the operation of firearms without creating a hazard for others. The exercise of responsibility would say to not be popping them off in the air. On the otherhand, if the picnic was out in the country, and you wanted to do some target shooting, and everyone was aware of the target zone, and watching out for the children, they could be totally appropriate. Personally I enjoy shooting a Black Powder muzzle loader, and have participated in what are called Rendevous. During which we wear period clothing, camp in teepees, and generally have a good time shooting and whooping. No drugs or alcohol allowed. Wife and children welcome when also dressed appropriately. Everyone seems to have a great time. Now I doubt that my black powder single shot would be much good as a military weapon, nor most of the deer rifles and shot guns owned by Americans. I tend to aggree that originally the intent was to provide an armed militia, but we have strayed far from that original. The National Guard is actually suppose to fulfill that purpose now of home defense, and it is disturbing to see them serving overseas. The Idea of the weekend warriors is that they would not be inclined to use there weapons on US citizens. In our history, and I mention my friend William Schroeder at Kent State, this has happened only a few times, and given the armed nature of the citizenry, any tyrant think that he could would likely find some resistance. I would generally expect that the military and the National Guard, at some point would refuse to follow an illegal order, and would depose the tyrant, in as much as all of them are citizens as well. The problem would arise if foreign troops were imported to prop up the tyrant, such as blue helmet UN troops, and then I expect there would be hell to pay. That is what is behind the right to bear arms as I see it, IMHO. TnT |
"rick" wrote in message nk.net... "Michael Daly" wrote in message ... On 25-Feb-2005, "rick" wrote: Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. It would take you a lot less time to post the link than to keep insisting that you already did. What are you afraid of? ===================== ROTFLMAO What a hoot. It would have been far quicker for you and kman to have looked for yourselves. Since it doesn't exist, it's not quicker. |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 12:13 AM: snip Whatever it was, it wasn't truthful. Because, the truth is, I never said what you claimed I said. ======================== Your intent was the same... My intent was exactly what I stated, not something you made up. ==================== Yes, spewing your ignorance. That wasn't something I made up. Actually, it was. ============== No, your have displayed your ignorance quite well. You have proven that you cannot use your computer. You have proven that you cannot accept facts that interfere with your fantasies.You have proven that you are a buffoon. I remain confident that the Framers did not have in mind that a crack dealer could buy an assault weapon at the store on the corner and spray the park with semi-automatic gunfire. ======================= No, they didn't have that in mind, and only you belive it or are trying to say that that occurs. Crack dealers have no rights to buy arms. Crack dealers who have not lost their rights to buy arms can buy them. You do realize that not every crack dealer ends up being convicted, right? Heck, all they have to do is go down to the corner and buy the right weapon to shoot any witnesses against them! ===================== LOL Do you make this up as you go, or has your fantasies been the main part of your life for years now? What's to stop an accused crack dealer from buying an assault rifle at the shop on the corner and shooting a witness? ======================== Tellwhen it has happened. Setting up mythical what-ifs isn't a discussion of rights. Sure. http://www.freep.com/news/locway/shoot4_20040604.htm ===================== NAme the corner store they bought their weapons from, fool. thanks again for displaying your ignorant ideology. Does it matter which store they bought them at!??!?!!??! =========================== LOL You're theone that keeps saying they trot down to the corner gun-mart, like there's one on every crack dealers corner. That's just part of your ignorant delusions. But I'll see your corner gun-marts and raise you a corner gun rent-a-center, like they have in Toronto. http://www.diversitywatch.ryerson.ca...globe_jan7.htm So? I'm not in favour of drug dealers buying guns and shooting people in Canada either! ================== Yet you can rent one for just that purpose. haven't seen any rent-a-gun shops around here. Now where's your link that proves Canadians are dying in wait lines for health care? ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. What I did not say was that such incidents aco****ed for 1000s of deaths each year, and thus, you are wrong to attribute that position. ================== Yet you keep implying it. How many crack dealers are there, how many parks? Adds up to 1000s of people killed in your fantasy world of make-believe. I never said any such thing, nor implied it. If even one person is killed with an assault weapon - a gun that is designed to kill many people quickly - that's obviously too many. ===================== Yes, that is exactly what you keep implying when you talk about spraying in parks. I'm not implying anything. I'm saying it: if more than one person is killed with an assault weapon that is one too many. ======================= Why? Why only these so-called assault weapons? Again, what makes then so much more dangerous than other weapons? Uhm. The fact that you can fire a lot of bullets in a short period of time? Duh. =========================== DUH, fool. Thanks again for proving your ignorance. Lots of non-assault styled weapons can fire 'lots of bullets in a short period of time', dolt. Thanks again for proving its all about your ignorant ideology. What does ideology have to do with it? I don't like people getting shot. Do you? ================ No, and I can protect my family from just such an occurance. There's no need for assault weapons, other than the selfish fascination of gun nuts or those who want to kill a lot of people in a short period of time. ===================== Again fool, tell us the difference between this assault weapon and any other available. There are far more powerful and deadly weapons out there fool. Oh, and I see that you are in fact capable of re-posting information. We are all still waiting for your repost of the evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. What was the date and time of your most recent posting of this information? It does not seem to be available on usenet. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. Anyone else see it? It doesn't seem to be available. Why won't you share the date and time of yoru most recent post with this information? ====================== What is apparent is your complete ignorance in the use of your computer. Why are you afraid of the facts? Please share them. As you are aware, thus far you are the only person that can see them. ==================== As everyone is now aware, you are too stupid to use your computer, even when told where to look. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. Like I said before fool, that you are too afraid to know the facts is no skin off my nose. I gave you the opportunity to find them yourself, because if I bring them up, you claim they are biased sources. Whay a hoot you are. thabnks again for proving your ignorant ideology... No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. \ |
"rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message nk.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 12:05 AM: snip Has anyone seen rick post any reference (credible or otherwise) that proves Canadians are dying waiting in line for health care? If so, please provide a link. Thanks. ================= I realize that learning things contrary to your ideology is hard for you, but you really should try it sometime. Rather than just waving your hands and claiming who or who isn't credible, look it up. But then, you've already proven that that is too much for you, or to scary for you. maintaining your ignorance appears to be paramount to your mental well being. Neither I nor anyone else can see any post from you that provides evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================= I have, and I've told you where else to check several times. that you wish to remain willfully ignorant is your decision. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. ================ You've asked the whole world have you? What a hoot fool. Again, why are you afraid to look up the info for yourself? Why do you want me to, whne I already have and you didn't like the messenger? The information does not exist, because you are wrong. |
"rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article t, rick at snip ====================== LOL Why can't you simply look it up for yourself? I've given you hints on where to look. But then, that would require some thought, and you have proven that independent thought isn't your thing. Neither I nor anyone else can see any post from you that provides evidence that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. Please provide a link. Otherwise, unless you believe that everyone but you is able to see them, you may have to accept that they do not exist. ================================== LOL Still pretending, eh fool? I see you are still afraid of the facts. Keep up the good work in proving your ignorant ideology. No one else has seen this post that you say you made. None of them. Either every other person here is delusional, or it's just you rick. ======================= Yes, you are first and foremost delusional. You are afraid to seek out the info. I'm not afraid at all. The information does not exist. If you have information that no one else has, I am asking you to post it. Thus, I am seeking it out. You are afraid of real discussion, so instead you puff out your chest in jingoistic blatherings. There is nothing jingoistic about asking you to post the materials to support your claim. But you can't, because they don't exist. |
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