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Rick wrote: ...stuff deleted Therein lies the problem, Evolutionism is based on an underlying philosophy called Uniformatarianism, not a scientific method at all. Just the assumtion that processes follow one after the other. Makes understanding thing much easier. The only problem is that the evidence does not bare this out. The uniformatarian scientist just went out and found info that supported there position, and ignored info that did not. Sort of like picking yourself up by your boot straps. And hence uniformatarianism has fallen into disrepute in many quarters, and the superstructure of evolution abandoned by many scientist. No, it isn't. Evolution is, once again, scientific theory. More importantly, it is a unifying theory which has been supported by many, a great many, of scientific disciplines. This includes the following: - anthropology - geology - genetics - biology, biochemistry, and all other bio sciences - chemistry And the list goes on. Your "uniformatiarian scientist" does not exist. You may have some religious zealot making up words for scientists, but there isn't any branch, individual, nor philosophy that fits this description. Another philosophy has become more acceptable recently in the scientific community called Catastrophism. This basically says that cataclismic events occurred in the course of history that completely changed the course of history. Radical events and elements have been injected into the course of history that have determined where we are today. These events would make following any uniform record impossible. Hence though the dinosaur records are interesting, they are not complete, and cannot be relied on for scientific information. Even such test procedures as C-14 dating etc would not be considered reliable. I see. Since it is convenient, we ignore scientific evidence and say, "it is interesting." Since you seem incapable of understanding the basics of these fields, mythology is much more meaningful for you. How pathetic. I remember reading one of these pamphlets which claimed that they carbon dated a live insect and the result was wildly inaccurate. But, you should know that you cannot get an accurate C-14 result on a live animal. This does not invalidate carbon dating, it merely proves that the indviduals involved attempted to use "spin" to convince the unwitting of their political agenda. Rick Sorry Rick, you stepped in it this time, and it really stinks. Googled Uniformatarian, and came up with pages. Just a few, http://tinyurl.com/68rnd http://tinyurl.com/4967j http://tinyurl.com/4k4a7 http://tinyurl.com/5bood http://tinyurl.com/4sb3v http://tinyurl.com/6omh8 http://tinyurl.com/67bqr http://tinyurl.com/5k9rg http://tinyurl.com/4ypon Our motto is "Truth In Science". The truth of the matter about C/1999 H1 (Lee) is that nobody can project its path, and that the observed rapid increase in brightness in connection with the officially supplied orbital modifications provide a strong indication that it's going to progressively bend inwards towards the orbital plane of Earth. We are saying that all possibilities should be considered; now! In fact it is talked about by many scientist, including the list you made above. Some Christian, some non-Christian, from all specialties, Past and present. The historian admitted that Darwinism is based on the big U. The last quoted section was from an astronomer, who says that all possibilities should be considered. Nice try with your buffoonery, better luck next time. TnT |
"BCITORGB" wrote in message oups.com... rick states: ========== Great education system you got there, eh? So, you don't teach math and english, that must mean all the time is spent in jingoistic indoctrination.(questioning inflection) ========== there must be a deficiency somewhere because your post is completely incomprehensible to me... the problem lies either at your end or mine. perhaps some americans could translate for me. ===================== Not too surprising for you. You mentioned canada, and definitions. I guess you don't follow the news from canada, eh? According to the ontario education minister, 'strike' is a 5-letter word. Just a little defitent in math and'or english. Given all that, I'm not surprised that you would have trouble with definitions. frtzw906 |
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message oups.com... BCITORGB wrote: rick states: ========== Great education system you got there, eh? So, you don't teach math and english, that must mean all the time is spent in jingoistic indoctrination.(questioning inflection) ========== there must be a deficiency somewhere because your post is completely incomprehensible to me... the problem lies either at your end or mine. perhaps some americans could translate for me. frtzw906 Hi Frtzw906, I'm here for a short bit, and I'll try to translate. Our friend "R" is sort of mixed up. ====================== Really? Show something that backs up your observation. He jumps into this discussion and lashes out at everyone, no matter what side of the discussion your on. ============================ No, only those that display ignorance. I think he is angry at everyone, ======================== Really? Show something that backs up any anger at anyone. That sarcasm is beyond your concept doesn't mean anyone is angry at you. basically, he doesn't know whether he's coming or going, just so he gets some response. ============================== LOL So why are you posting? I care not whether idiots respond or not. Their responses far more often display even more of their stupidity. I've noted this behavior before, ==================== Really? Again, try backing up that observation. and try not to let it bother me. But then according to some, I'm a great one to call the kettle black! TnT |
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Your "uniformatiarian scientist" does not exist. You may have some religious zealot making up words for scientists, but there isn't any branch, individual, nor philosophy that fits this description. ...stuff deleted Sorry Rick, you stepped in it this time, and it really stinks. Googled Uniformatarian, and came up with pages. Just a few, http://tinyurl.com/68rnd http://tinyurl.com/4967j http://tinyurl.com/4k4a7 http://tinyurl.com/5bood http://tinyurl.com/4sb3v http://tinyurl.com/6omh8 http://tinyurl.com/67bqr http://tinyurl.com/5k9rg http://tinyurl.com/4ypon No, you did. The links you presented are mostly from religious sites, which I will discard just as you do science. The other two are references to previous beliefs, long refuled, which use the word. Any scientist who believed that saturn and earth were formed by the same processes would be laughed out of town. I have never met a scientist, nor professor, who denied the global effects of volcanism or other catastrophes. The recent tsunami, as were others in history, were recorded in the geologic record. I never said the word didn't exist, I said that the uniformitarian scientist doesn't. I stand by that statement and nothing in the presented URL's supports you. Rick |
KMAN wrote: in article , Tinkerntom at wrote on 2/13/05 9:21 PM: BCITORGB wrote: rick states: ========== Great education system you got there, eh? So, you don't teach math and english, that must mean all the time is spent in jingoistic indoctrination.(questioning inflection) ========== there must be a deficiency somewhere because your post is completely incomprehensible to me... the problem lies either at your end or mine. perhaps some americans could translate for me. frtzw906 Hi Frtzw906, I'm here for a short bit, and I'll try to translate. Our friend "R" is sort of mixed up. He jumps into this discussion and lashes out at everyone, no matter what side of the discussion your on. I think he is angry at everyone, basically, he doesn't know whether he's coming or going, just so he gets some response. I've noted this behavior before, and try not to let it bother me. But then according to some, I'm a great one to call the kettle black! TnT Oy-yoy-yoy. Still giving aspirin a headache eh Tinkerntom? Heehee. It's amazing how many mixed up people you seem to come across. It sure must be lonely on Tinkerntom's isle of sanity. That sounds like a foreign language, and here I thought you Canadians all spoke the Kings Engliss, or is that French. I was trying to be the nice guy and bail old Frtwz out by translating for him. I figured it would get Rick worked up even more, but Frtwz and I have been having a decent palaver, and Rick jumped into the middle of it all, kickin and screamin every which way. Sort of reminds me of someone I know, only to well!!! Hey you have not been around very much, so I am an equal opportunity headache waiting to find an unsuspecting noggen to fall on. I don't know that it is amazing that I come across so many mixed up people, they seem to find me! HeHe!! Though there are plenty to go around, so how many do you want? But since you are here now, how have you been? I have missed our little spats, and I certainly hope you are OKay. Any more of those raging headaches since I last talked to you, hope not! Did you take that med that I recommended? and did it work? Must assume that it did if you are back for more. TnT |
Rick wrote: ...stuff deleted Your "uniformatiarian scientist" does not exist. You may have some religious zealot making up words for scientists, but there isn't any branch, individual, nor philosophy that fits this description. ...stuff deleted Sorry Rick, you stepped in it this time, and it really stinks. Googled Uniformatarian, and came up with pages. Just a few, http://tinyurl.com/68rnd http://tinyurl.com/4967j http://tinyurl.com/4k4a7 http://tinyurl.com/5bood http://tinyurl.com/4sb3v http://tinyurl.com/6omh8 http://tinyurl.com/67bqr http://tinyurl.com/5k9rg http://tinyurl.com/4ypon No, you did. The links you presented are mostly from religious sites, which I will discard just as you do science. The other two are references to previous beliefs, long refuled, which use the word. Any scientist who believed that saturn and earth were formed by the same processes would be laughed out of town. I have never met a scientist, nor professor, who denied the global effects of volcanism or other catastrophes. The recent tsunami, as were others in history, were recorded in the geologic record. I never said the word didn't exist, I said that the uniformitarian scientist doesn't. I stand by that statement and nothing in the presented URL's supports you. Rick Here I thought you were an open minded liberal conservative scientist that was interested in knowledge where ever he could find it. Shame on me for assuming again. Narrowminded anti-religious scientist are well - narrowminded. Not much difference that narrowminded fundementalist that have their mind made up, no more data needed! A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and waste, and waste! TnT |
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at wrote on 2/14/05 4:19 AM: KMAN wrote: in article , Tinkerntom at wrote on 2/13/05 9:21 PM: BCITORGB wrote: rick states: ========== Great education system you got there, eh? So, you don't teach math and english, that must mean all the time is spent in jingoistic indoctrination.(questioning inflection) ========== there must be a deficiency somewhere because your post is completely incomprehensible to me... the problem lies either at your end or mine. perhaps some americans could translate for me. frtzw906 Hi Frtzw906, I'm here for a short bit, and I'll try to translate. Our friend "R" is sort of mixed up. He jumps into this discussion and lashes out at everyone, no matter what side of the discussion your on. I think he is angry at everyone, basically, he doesn't know whether he's coming or going, just so he gets some response. I've noted this behavior before, and try not to let it bother me. But then according to some, I'm a great one to call the kettle black! TnT Oy-yoy-yoy. Still giving aspirin a headache eh Tinkerntom? Heehee. It's amazing how many mixed up people you seem to come across. It sure must be lonely on Tinkerntom's isle of sanity. That sounds like a foreign language, and here I thought you Canadians all spoke the Kings Engliss, or is that French. I was trying to be the nice guy and bail old Frtwz out by translating for him. I figured it would get Rick worked up even more, but Frtwz and I have been having a decent palaver, and Rick jumped into the middle of it all, kickin and screamin every which way. Sort of reminds me of someone I know, only to well!!! Hey you have not been around very much, so I am an equal opportunity headache waiting to find an unsuspecting noggen to fall on. I don't know that it is amazing that I come across so many mixed up people, they seem to find me! HeHe!! Though there are plenty to go around, so how many do you want? But since you are here now, how have you been? I have missed our little spats, and I certainly hope you are OKay. Any more of those raging headaches since I last talked to you, hope not! Did you take that med that I recommended? and did it work? Must assume that it did if you are back for more. TnT Your grip on reality grows more tenuous with each passing day. I really can't bear to watch. |
Rick:
you must be posting from finland or new zealand, eh? you guys, (whichever country you're from) have a great deal to be proud of in terms of your educational systems. as a canadian, i humbly bow down to your achievements. but, as you likely know, canada is up there in the top 5 in the world. just so you can bask in the glory of your country's achievements, i've included the latest oecd results: OECD/PISA Study: Reading Literacy 1. Finland 2. Canada 3. New Zealand 4. Australia 5. Ireland 6. Korea 7 United Kingdom 8. Japan 9. Sweden 10. Austria 11. Belgium 12. Iceland 13. Norway 14. France 15. United States OECD/PISA Study: Mathematical Literacy 1. Japan 2. Korea 3. New Zealand 4. Finland 5. Australia 6. Canada 7. Switzerland 8. United Kingdom 9. Belgium 10. France 11. Austria 12. Denmark 13. Iceland 14. Liechtenstein 15. Sweden 16. Ireland 17. Norway 18. Czech Republic 19. United States OECD/PISA Study: Scientific Literacy 1. Korea 2. Japan 3. Finland 4. United Kingdom 5. Canada 6. New Zealand 7. Australia 8. Austria 9. Ireland 10. Sweden 11. Czech Republic 12. France 13. Norway 14. United States frtzw906 |
Rick:
I live on left coast. i don't follow every detail of what goes on in places like ontario. whatever the education minister in ontario says is likely of little import to me. it's almost a full-time job having disdain for the politicians who actually do influence my life. btw, what does "Just a little defitent in math...." mean? have you guys come up with yet more ways to spells words differently? is that perhaps an american spelling of "deficient"? given what follows, that figures: OECD/PISA Study: Reading Literacy 1. Finland 2. Canada 14. France 15. United States frtzw906 |
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