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Michael Daly wrote:
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There is no National Guard in this country.


Nothing to guard maybe, that anyone would invade to take from you. And
if they did, you could always fall back on Nato or UN to intervene.


It's a US thing.

Maybe lots to guard that many would love to have. And Luckily for you,
your neighbor to the south is content to have you as the neighbor to
the north. That's a US thing also!

Mike


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Michael Daly wrote:
On 11-Feb-2005, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

As far as the scientific method, sometimes it was not so

scientific

Don't confuse the scientific method for the nonsense that some people
practice.

Mike


Therein lies the problem, Evolutionism is based on an underlying
philosophy called Uniformatarianism, not a scientific method at all.
Just the assumtion that processes follow one after the other. Makes
understanding thing much easier. The only problem is that the evidence
does not bare this out. The uniformatarian scientist just went out and
found info that supported there position, and ignored info that did
not. Sort of like picking yourself up by your boot straps. And hence
uniformatarianism has fallen into disrepute in many quarters, and the
superstructure of evolution abandoned by many scientist.

Another philosophy has become more acceptable recently in the
scientific community called Catastrophism. This basically says that
cataclismic events occurred in the course of history that completely
changed the course of history. Radical events and elements have been
injected into the course of history that have determined where we are
today. These events would make following any uniform record impossible.
Hence though the dinosaur records are interesting, they are not
complete, and cannot be relied on for scientific information. Even such
test procedures as C-14 dating etc would not be considered reliable.

The bottom line is that what we "know" is a pitance, and a little early
even yet for making concluding scientific proof of process. TnT

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Michael Daly wrote:
On 12-Feb-2005, "BCITORGB" wrote:

To argue that the teacher is free to teach elsewhere is simplistic.


Where the teacher goes is irrelevant - the students aren't going
anywhere and will grow up at a disadvantage compared to those
in other countries. US children already trail the rest of OECD
countries in academic standings (particularly maths and science)
so any further degradation in knowledge and skill will make it
worse.

Mike


Maybe, though the typical Christian School educated student scores way
above average on SAT. It is the public schools sector that teaches all
this enlightened scientific stuff to the exclusion of the Christian
perspective, that drags down the test results! You do the math. TnT

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Michael Daly wrote:
On 12-Feb-2005, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

Totalitarian capitalistic country


There were several in South America years ago. the US
supported them because they were capitalistic and ignored
the grotesque human rights abuses that took place. Time
to pull out your history books.

Mike


Banana Republics, and nice way to say fake government, no doubt. But
again I don't buy the stretch that they represented any sort of
capitalism.

Obviously this end of the spectrum is harder to find because the two
principles are diametrically opposed. Capitalism emphasizes the
individual. Totalitarian denies the individual. So their possible
coexistance is fleeting at best. Even a benevolent king, would still
controll all the assets, and hence not really capitalism.

On the other end of the spectrum the situation can be more compatible,
and accebtable if the totalitarian is benevolent, such as some
constitutional monarchies where I believe the king is trully concerned
for their subjects. It can be hell where the leader is not so nice.

Inbetween there are many shades and colors. However I still maintain
that the political/economical factors are interrelated, and can not be
considered in a vacuum. TnT

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On 12-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

If you twits would quit letting terrorists in, we might not have to.


None of the Sept 11 terrorists came from Canada. The claim that
Canada lets in terrorists is absurd.

We may not have utterly unguarded borders with Canada or
Mexico, but not only CAN you travel freely from state to state in the US,
you have an absolute constitutional right to do so, regardless of what any
particular state may say.


You don't seem to know the difference between countries and states. Bizarre.

Which is fine, except that socialized medicine has been proven to be a death
sentence for the seriously ill because underpaid, overworked doctors have no
reason to extend themselves and because health care is free, people with
minor complaints feel free to clog the system with petty complaints.


Total bull****, seen from my position as a person living in a country with
government provided health care.

fund public transit.


So do we.


What Americans call public transit is a joke in the rest of the world.

When you give subsidies to companies to help them succeed, excel and become
larger, the immediate return is more jobs that the poor can take, thus
becoming productive and self-sufficient members of society rather than
leeches.


But the inevitable outcome is actually a transfer of wealth from the poor
to the rich.

Corporate subsidies prop up ineffective and obsolete companies. US steel
companies are a perfect example. They saw the competition as the offshore
companies and got government support. Instead of modernizing and competing,
the share holders got rich from the subsidies and the companies wallowed in
inefficiency. Now it turns out that those American steel companies that
were not subsidized are the real threat to the subsidized ones. BUt the
old companies still can't compete because they are more obsolete than
ever. Full analysis in The Economist (www.economist.com) 'coupla years ago.


Mike


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On 12-Feb-2005, "BCITORGB" wrote:

why then do the danes keep electing governments that support what you
purport to be the case?


Actually, the Danes just re-elected a right-wing majority for their
second term.

Mike
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On 12-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

I argue that the very best way to destroy myths is
to hold them up to the withering light of reason.


The schools are not holding them up to the light. They are
presenting them as a valid theory.

Mike
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On 12-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

get the offenders to fix the problem
themselves


But they're only offenders in your eyes. Extraterritorial enforcement
of laws is against international law.

If Canada decriminalizes pot possession, it has no direct effect on the
US. However, they keep getting cranky and threatening every time the
topic comes up. Most countries treat drug addiction as a medical problem;
the US holds to obsolete ideas about it being a criminal problem. Fix
it in your own country and stop trying to export your backward problems.

Mike
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TnT wrote:
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the NAZI, that means National Capitalistic
party! No wait, I am wrong, that was National Socialist Party. Sorry
they don't fill the bill
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Are you always taken in so easily by labels? Time for the history books
again. Do the names Farben and Krupp mean anything to you? You're not
about to tell that they were government owned concerns hiding under the
guise of private capital are you?

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TnT says:
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Regarding Chile... Granted the beggar selling
pencils on the street could be considered a free Enterprise
entrepreneur,
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Beggars in the street! What are you talking about. Does the word MINING
meaning anything to you?

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