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Jack Goff wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. ...then... http://www.cityrating.com/ Again for Fritz, Atlanta is a top ten city. Naples, FL isn't even listed. Forbes? Atlanta is #5. Naples, FL 53! Ha! Atlanta *is* the definition of a crime ridden hell-hole. If you compare it to Naples at www.bestplaces.com , Atlanta has 10 times the crime rate that Naples has. Apples and oranges! You can't possibly compare a large city with a small one. If that was your criteria, then a town in the middle of nowhere, Maine would be Nirvana! So, Jack, how long have you lived the Atlanta area? Where abouts? |
NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. So....you actually think over-inflation is a GOOD thing?? Hmm, the same person that said that the over-inflation in CA during the dot-com boom was bad? |
NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. So....you actually think over-inflation is a GOOD thing?? Hmm, the same person that said that the over-inflation in CA during the dot-com boom was bad? If you read the article from the Naples Daily News that I posted yesterday, you'll see that it's not "over-inflation". It's simple supply and demand. The demand for a home in paradise is higher than a home in Snellville...and that's why our housing prices are higher. |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? |
NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? Every property that is for sale is listed? Do you honestly think that the local real estate people are just stating FACTS, and that they don't stretch the truth and are biased????????? |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? Every property that is for sale is listed? On MLS? Yes...except for FSBO's. Do you honestly think that the local real estate people are just stating FACTS, and that they don't stretch the truth and are biased????????? All completed real estate transactions are verifiable online via public records: http://www.collierappraiser.com/ Every property that is sold (including empty lots, and condos) are published daily in the Naples Daily News: http://naplesnews.com/npdn/re_sales/...454336,00.html The realtors aren't lying. |
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? Every property that is for sale is listed? On MLS? Yes...except for FSBO's. Do you honestly think that the local real estate people are just stating FACTS, and that they don't stretch the truth and are biased????????? All completed real estate transactions are verifiable online via public records: http://www.collierappraiser.com/ Every property that is sold (including empty lots, and condos) are published daily in the Naples Daily News: http://naplesnews.com/npdn/re_sales/...454336,00.html The realtors aren't lying. Asslicker must feel compelled to prove how stupid he is. Real estate brokers and real estate transactions are some of the most regulated business in any state. On the other hand, asslicker probabyl assumes that everybody stretches the truth like he does. |
NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? Every property that is for sale is listed? On MLS? Yes...except for FSBO's. Do you honestly think that the local real estate people are just stating FACTS, and that they don't stretch the truth and are biased????????? All completed real estate transactions are verifiable online via public records: http://www.collierappraiser.com/ Every property that is sold (including empty lots, and condos) are published daily in the Naples Daily News: http://naplesnews.com/npdn/re_sales/...454336,00.html The realtors aren't lying. So......awhile ago, you counted out anything in Collier county that wasn't in Naples, then you redefined what constituted "Naples", now you are quoting a Collier county appraiser.... You certainly know how to spin, don't you....good little republican. |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... It is Nirvana. And the high demand for real estate proves it. Homes in Oakland, CA go for two or three times that. It is a crime ridden hole, and is rife with homelessness, unemployment, murder, gang activity, etc. So, to say that real estate prices define Nirvana, is absurd. Now, if you go he http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/1247625.html You'll see that the average price of housing in Naples is $166k, and the national average is $219k. Using your analogy that Nirvana is defined by housing costs, you'll see that Naples is much below average.... Hmmm. My link says that the median home price in Naples is $453,482. http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp Here's another link: http://www.internest.com/city/naplesfl.asp " In 2001, Naples appeared as #142 in a list of the US most wealthy towns, with a median home price of $632,205. Even if you take into consideration that the data may have come from a skewed source, it's not totally out of line, if you consider that the US Census Data, notorious for being low, shows Naples in 2000 with a median price of $416,000 which is almost 4 times the national median price. " Now that we've establised that the "median home price" is about 4 times the national median average, how does the "average home price" compare? From 2000 census data: Naples: $185,605 US: $121,000 http://www.homegain.com/local_real_e...FL/naples.html There's something wrong with the data in that money/cnn article. I suspect it's from the 1996 census. Of course, the average home price went up 57% from 1996 to 2003. http://www.escapehomes.com/cities/Naples.htm From my own personal experience: I bought a house in 2001 for $409k and sold it last April for $560k. I turned around and bought a house on the water for $825k. The prior owner paid $320k for it in 1997. Down the street, the same house, in the same square footage, and built the same year as mine just sold for $1.225 million...and they don't have a hot tub and a pool. That's in 8 months. When I bought my house, there were 43 homes for sale in my neighborhood...and only 9 of them were under a million. Now, there's 32 homes for sale, and only one of them is under a million...and it's 1500 sq ft listed at $879k. Why don't you satisfy your own curiousity, and browse the homes for sale in Naples. www.naplesarea.com Do a search for homes from $2 million to over $20 million. You'll get an error message saying that you need to refine your search because it returned more than 250 homes. Do a search for homes priced between $150k and $200k (you said the average is $166k, right?). What do you come up with? Less than 40...and all in Lehigh Acres or Golden Gate Estates. Now refine your search a little. Use the same prices, but limit it to single family homes. Now make sure you exclude Zone 8 (Lee County) and Zone 7 (Golden Gate Estates). How many homes do you come up with? Two. One is 1200 ft^2 and the other is 1000ft^2. How can there be more than 250 homes over $2million dollars, and only 2 homes under $175k, and the "average price" be $166k? Answer: there can't. The CNN/Money numbers are wrong. Hehe!! I give many non-influenced sites, and NOYB, in his desperation to make Naples appear to others that it's better than Oz, gives local real estate sites. Gee, you don't think they are biased, and stretch the truth do you? You don't think that the real estate folks have a better pulse on the housing market than a guy sitting at a desk for Money magazine crunching 5 year old numbers from 5,000 towns across the US? Do a search on MLS. How many single family homes under $175k did you find in Naples? Two? Then how can the "average home price" be under $175k? Every property that is for sale is listed? On MLS? Yes...except for FSBO's. Do you honestly think that the local real estate people are just stating FACTS, and that they don't stretch the truth and are biased????????? All completed real estate transactions are verifiable online via public records: http://www.collierappraiser.com/ Every property that is sold (including empty lots, and condos) are published daily in the Naples Daily News: http://naplesnews.com/npdn/re_sales/...454336,00.html The realtors aren't lying. So......awhile ago, you counted out anything in Collier county that wasn't in Naples, then you redefined what constituted "Naples", now you are quoting a Collier county appraiser. The CC appraiser's office has public records online. They're the same records that are available he http://www.clerk.collier.fl.us/clerk...Reflection.htm The only difference is that the appraiser's office shows *both* the appraised value (for tax purposes), *and* the recent sales price history of the property. |
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