JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:58:25 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Babies


By TOBY STERLING, Associated Press Writer

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Raising the stakes in an excruciating ethical
debate, a hospital in the Netherlands - the first nation to permit
euthanasia - recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally
ill newborns, and then made a startling revelation: It has already begun
carrying out such procedures in a handful of cases and reporting them to the
government.



The announcement last month by the Groningen Academic Hospital came amid a
growing discussion in Holland on whether to legalize euthanasia on people
incapable of deciding for themselves whether they want to end their lives -
a prospect viewed with horror by euthanasia opponents and as a natural
evolution by advocates.



Lost their moral compass indeed! Meanwhile, Democrats are working fervently
to turn the US into the Netherlands. They'll never get it...and that's why
their party will continue to fade away into oblivion. It's better that the
American people are the ones to remove the Democratic party's stain of
immorality from our country's moral fiber rather than waiting until things
get so bad that God decides to do it for us. He has a history of being less
that descriminate in his methods, and I'd hate for the decent people to pay
for the sins of the immoral minority.




The USA doeswn't have a moral compass...or in fact any morality on any
significant issue. And while we all here understand your attempt to
provoke, you're not going to get anywhere. This country is going
straight down the tubes, and you are young enough so that you will
suffer all along the way.

The government will assert control over your profession, and your
children will live in a nation of limited opportunities, and probably
will end up with menial, third-world jobs at some point in their
lifetimes, no matter what their educations.

The USA has become passe in the court of world opinion and, in reality,
in the ability to project power over anything of importance.

It has nothing to do with Democrats, or with what you think is morality
or immorality. It has everything to do with fascism. Look up the post
Nuremberg laws of the Third Reich...see if you find anything familiar.

We're going to find ourselves in a never-ending series of real jams in
the not too distant future. Some will be internal, some external, and
some of both will result from the actions of our enemies and some from
the actions of our friends abroad and our former friends. They are not
going to sit around and wait for the smoke to clear.

Jesus is not going to save this country. If he exists at all as the Big
Kahuna, he washed his hands of us when we lost our vision, our
leadership and our courage in January 2001.


That shoe must have fit, huh Harry? If this country is so bad, why
don't you do a few years in the Netherlands, or anywhere else for that
matter?


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.

We're doing our part now. We've closed accounts at stores in the red
states, and to the best of our ability, will avoid purchases from or
travels to those areas. For our holiday shopping so far, we've managed
to divert about $2000 to businesses in other states.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.

Why would you find it fun to watch your country implode?

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.


Why would you find it fun to watch your country implode?




If I told you, you still wouldn't understand.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:39:22 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1101851207.rbmlXyjz3V0DWg/Q8PoFWA@teranews...


At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.


Why would you find it fun to watch your country implode?




If I told you, you still wouldn't understand.

Go play with yourself, Harry. You'll get a lot more accomplished.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1101851207.rbmlXyjz3V0DWg/Q8PoFWA@teranews...


At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.


Why would you find it fun to watch your country implode?




If I told you, you still wouldn't understand.

There's nothing to understand. It's unfathomable how somebody who calls
himself an American could find enjoyment in watching his country "implode".
You, Harry, have become a terrorist sympathizer...and a traitor to your
country.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:44:02 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:58:25 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Babies


By TOBY STERLING, Associated Press Writer

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Raising the stakes in an excruciating ethical
debate, a hospital in the Netherlands - the first nation to permit
euthanasia - recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally
ill newborns, and then made a startling revelation: It has already begun
carrying out such procedures in a handful of cases and reporting them to the
government.



The announcement last month by the Groningen Academic Hospital came amid a
growing discussion in Holland on whether to legalize euthanasia on people
incapable of deciding for themselves whether they want to end their lives -
a prospect viewed with horror by euthanasia opponents and as a natural
evolution by advocates.



Lost their moral compass indeed! Meanwhile, Democrats are working fervently
to turn the US into the Netherlands. They'll never get it...and that's why
their party will continue to fade away into oblivion. It's better that the
American people are the ones to remove the Democratic party's stain of
immorality from our country's moral fiber rather than waiting until things
get so bad that God decides to do it for us. He has a history of being less
that descriminate in his methods, and I'd hate for the decent people to pay
for the sins of the immoral minority.




The USA doeswn't have a moral compass...or in fact any morality on any
significant issue. And while we all here understand your attempt to
provoke, you're not going to get anywhere. This country is going
straight down the tubes, and you are young enough so that you will
suffer all along the way.

The government will assert control over your profession, and your
children will live in a nation of limited opportunities, and probably
will end up with menial, third-world jobs at some point in their
lifetimes, no matter what their educations.

The USA has become passe in the court of world opinion and, in reality,
in the ability to project power over anything of importance.

It has nothing to do with Democrats, or with what you think is morality
or immorality. It has everything to do with fascism. Look up the post
Nuremberg laws of the Third Reich...see if you find anything familiar.

We're going to find ourselves in a never-ending series of real jams in
the not too distant future. Some will be internal, some external, and
some of both will result from the actions of our enemies and some from
the actions of our friends abroad and our former friends. They are not
going to sit around and wait for the smoke to clear.

Jesus is not going to save this country. If he exists at all as the Big
Kahuna, he washed his hands of us when we lost our vision, our
leadership and our courage in January 2001.


That shoe must have fit, huh Harry? If this country is so bad, why
don't you do a few years in the Netherlands, or anywhere else for that
matter?


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



At the moment, it looks like it will be more fun watching this country
implode.

We're doing our part now. We've closed accounts at stores in the red
states, and to the best of our ability, will avoid purchases from or
travels to those areas. For our holiday shopping so far, we've managed
to divert about $2000 to businesses in other states.

Such common sense! Does that come from playing with yourself or from
doing the "Weasel Shuffle"?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Beware the slippery slope.

How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable to
make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are not
capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Beware the slippery slope.

How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are "unable
to
make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are
not
capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"?

Wow! Chuck and I agree.

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Beware the slippery slope.

How large a step is it from terminating the life of people who are
"unable
to
make the decision to end their own life", to terminating people "who are
not
capable of making the *right* decision, and want to go on living"?

Wow! Chuck and I agree.



Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the
baby to the side and let them die. Some nurse complained, and now
$10,000,000 and the baby dies in a month. Same with other unsurvivable
babies.

Was done lots years ago. Baby born without a brain, the doctors put the
baby to the side and let them die. Some nurse complained, and now
$10,000,000 and the baby dies in a month. Same with other unsurvivable
babies.


My brainy daughter's first master's degree was in medical ethics. Fascinating
field that often deals with scenarios much like you describe. More major
hospitals are adding medical ethicists to saff. There's a difference between a
baby born without a brain that has *zero* potential for survival, and deciding
to off poor sick granny because the creditors are hounding and the inheritance
would solve a lot of problems.