Gould,

I never called you an asshole. I called you a bigot. The definition of
bigot is: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race,
or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." If you believe in
having a debate comparing and contrasting ideas and perspectives, why would
you ever say " Suburbia, the primarily lily white land of cultural
conformity". I disagreed, as one who did live in suburbia. I stated that a
large percent of those who live in suburbia were minorities. In your
bigoted mind, that could not be true. To validate your premise you said

" I recently attended a business function at a new, golf course community in
the Cascade foothills- about 20-25 miles from downtown Seattle. This place
is brand new. They are going to hold a PGA tournament there in 2005 or 2006.
The houses are all painted various shades of beige, all have the same
roofing, the same windows, etc. Two or three new sections are still under
construction, and all the $1mm plus houses are painted various shades of
beige. While I didn't go door to door and do a survey, I did see some
diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked for the
catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in the
immediate community)." didn't go door to door and do a survey, I
did see some diversity while I was there... a number of minorities worked
for the catering company- (but I'll bet you a buck they weren't living in
the immediate community)."

Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?
Why would you comment about minorities who worked at the clubhouse, to
reinforce your premise that suburbia is lily white?
Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Someone who is bigoted against blacks would use a similar argument.
" I recently attended a business function downtown. Since I normally don't
go downtown (the place is overrun by blacks) I took a wrong turn and ended
up in the ghetto. The place was falling apart, with drug dealers on every
corner. Trash littered the streets and their yards. Their houses were
falling apart. These people may not be able to afford a more expensive home,
but why do they have to live like pigs? I did see a few white people, but I
would bet you a buck they didn't live in that neighborhood. If black
people are our equal, why do they live in such filth? While I didn't go
door to door and do a survey, my guess is that every household had a family
member who is in prison. "

Your comments were bigoted, and I told you so. I find your comments to be
just as repulsive as those who believe minorities are inferior. I also
believe the minorities who live in suburbia would find your comments to
offensive.

Your response was to ignore our contrasting ideas and perspectives and
decided to start pitching dirty little insult turds




"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
It looks like you realize you have lost the debate and now are resorting
to
personal insults concerning my sentence structure and syntax.

No dice, Doc. When you introduce the concept "Gould is an asshole....." to
a
discussion you have broached a subject
over which there is little or any debate. Gould is an asshole. Operational
difference between Gould and some of the rest of the assholes here 'bouts
is
that he isn't a non-boating asshole trolling through rec.boats for
purposes of
picking fights with one specific poster and then expanding the mission to
include anybody who might seem slightly philosophically aligned with the
initial target.

Gould, this
is not the New Yorker. This is Usenet and it is common for people to jot
off quick retorts and they will make typos and/or grammatical errors.

It's more common for some than for others.

Sloppy grammar is a sign of intellectual sloth, at best, and wears
awkwardly on
those who presume to criticize others for their deductive reasoning
processes
and conclusions.

The fact still stands that you are extremely bigoted against those who
have
different beliefs or values.

Naw, just against other assholes like myself. Maybe a little moreso
against
intellectual weaklings who run out of ammo somewhere around the second
volley
and start pitching dirty little insult turds ( an emotional payoff
practice
suspected more frequently now to be the only reason they appeared to
engage in
debate in the first place) rather than comparing and contrasting ideas and
perspectives.

On 12 Nov 2004 07:11:07 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

Down With Fancy Book Learnin'

Rest snipped.

The election is over. We have been trying to get the group back on topic and
cool down the animosity between the sides.

Have a nice day.



Regards
John S

I would rather be boating!

Would your comments qualify as "dirty little insult turds".

I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Your bigotry extends beyond beliefs and values. It extends to where
someone

How funny. A supposedly grown man who selects the "send" function, and
then has
to jump back in with a fresh post because he realizes there is still some
venom
left in the sac. :-)

Grade yourself an A for this one. You
exceed all previous expectations.

I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are "observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity. Too bad, really, as you
often seem a bit brighter than some folks who hang around only to fire off
insults.

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my
point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers
making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are
"observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory
name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of
personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now
very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it
down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity. Too bad, really, as you
often seem a bit brighter than some folks who hang around only to fire off
insults.

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow up.

Exactly, and providing a description is not a racial slur.

Do you describe your white neighbors as white? Honest answer, please.....

(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow up.


Is it still legal to shoot fish in a barrel?

Why do you believe minorities could not (or would not) live in million
dollar community?

I said that the only minorities I observed were *working for the catering
company*, and I'd be willing to bet they didn't live in the community. Do lower
tier restaurant and catering company workers routinely buy seven-figure homes
where you live?
If so, your minimum wage must be about
$100 an hour.


Why would you use a million dollar community as being representative of
suburbia?

Having a $1mm home in the Pac NW makes you upper middle class. Common as BMW,
Lexus and Hummer automobiles. The newly built suburban developments in
locations within about 15 or 20 miles of downtown Seattle are commonly priced
in that category. What should I use instead? A tract of rickety-tick Section 8
apartments?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
(Watch those same bright folks take offense at that last sentence.) :-)

Gould, you have become a sniveling crybaby who can throw it out but not
take
it. It is never you who starts anything....always the other guy. Grow
up.


Is it still legal to shoot fish in a barrel?

Perhaps, but only when you don't snip your entire message when posting my
response to it.

As you well know I was in fact responding to these comments of yours that
you conveniently left off your reply:
-------------------
1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers
making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are
"observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.

3. Any comment of any type made by Gould will be considered an insult for
purposes of seeking any excuse to diverit a thread into a series of personal
comments under the "But, Mommy, *he* started it!" treaty provision.

Once we have the rules defined, it becomes easier to anticipate your now
very
predictable MO. I "observe" that your goal in a discussion is to drag it
down
to a
level of insult exchange at the first opportunity.
------------------------------------
Perhaps I should start adding some all encompassing closing lines to my
posts as you seem to be doing lately. That way I can conveniently deflect
any incoming criticism as you most often seem to do. However, as I am a man
willing to stand behind what I write I will leave that MO to you.

Have a nice day Chuck.

Gould 0738 wrote:
I was highlighting the differences between our contrasting ideas and
perspectives, you prefer to use personal insults instead of debating our
different perspectives. My comment about you being a bigot was not an
insult, it was an observation that your comments and beliefs are bigoted.

Just as the comment that set you off, (that you couldn't understand my point
because you were choosing not to), was an observation, not an insult.

I'll have to remember the rules he

1. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever runs a side thread with one of his high fivers making
negative comments about Gould, those aren't insults, they are "observations".

2. If Dr Dr Taco Whatever calls Gould a bigot or any other derogatory name,
that is not an insult, it's an observation.


As smart as you are, Gould, you still have not figured out that Taco
Breath and his high fivers are no more valuable than intestinal gas in a
space suit.