"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Karl Denninger wrote:
In article . net,
NOYB wrote:


The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris'
financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual
harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has
I.O.U's
scatted throughout the financial world, records show.

Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she
earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds
$37,578
in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans.

"It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close
to
the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday.

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Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.



$37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year.

If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then
she's finished both professionally and personally.

If notm then OReilley is.


Naw. Rush isn't finished...and he's a druggie.

Society draws a distinction between addictions to illicit drugs and
addictions to drugs that are legal but obtained illicitly.



The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the
original harassment AND she had a different job.

Really? That must be why O'Reilly offered her $2 million to walk away, eh?

O'Reilly didn't offer the money. Attorneys for Fox News offered the money.
It's sometimes cheaper to make things go away than to fight them in court
and in the news.

"Karl Denninger" wrote in message
news:AhWdd.47444$UA.44405@lakeread08...

In article . net,
NOYB wrote:


The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual
harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has
I.O.U's
scatted throughout the financial world, records show.

Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she
earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds
$37,578
in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans.

"It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close
to
the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday.

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Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.



$37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year.

At any given point, if you took a snapshot of my credit card debt, it's
probably $15-20k. But it's paid off in full every month and I have
never--not even once-- paid interest on it. Just stating that she has $37k
in credit card debt doesn't tell us if she carries that over from
month-to-month, or if she just so happened to make several large purchases
right before they checked her financial statement. Hell, she's a producer.
It's conceivable that she outlays her expenses every month on a personal
card, and then Fox reimburses her.

That being said, I think she deserves to lose this suit. If things were so
bad when she first left Fox for CNN, then why did she come back for more?
And why did she wait to complain until after O'Reilly had already filed a
$60 million lawsuit against her for trying to extort him? Her motives were
evil and disingenuous from the start. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to
see it come out that this was a concerted behind-the-scenes plan by those on
the Left to discredit a person who they perceive as a threat.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

Who cares?

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Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.

You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always
talking about. :-)

No one else could owe that much - who would lend it?

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

Who cares?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.

You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always
talking about. :-)

No one else could owe that much - who would lend it?


Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times...


--
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The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and
crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He
aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the
religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our
enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on
the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with
drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his
day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit.
He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original
Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It
was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them
hypocrites.

The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke
the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These
scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected
people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge
for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately
reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today
and the issues have not changed much.

Harry Krause wrote:



Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times...



Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard.

LOL

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:



Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times...



Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard.

LOL

Eisboch


Well, it's about $10,000 to $40,000 a year or so for a place like Tufts.




--
Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history.
The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and
crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He
aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the
religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our
enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on
the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with
drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his
day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit.
He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original
Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It
was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them
hypocrites.

The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke
the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These
scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected
people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge
for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately
reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today
and the issues have not changed much.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:



Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times...



Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard.

LOL

Eisboch


Well, it's about $10,000 to $40,000 a year or so for a place like Tufts.

My dental school ran about $15000/yr for in-state tuition, plus books and
supplies. Of course, I also needed money for living expenses...and I
borrowed some extra to float me for the 4 1/2 months that I couldn't
practice after graduation while I was waiting for my board results.


I graduated with just a bit over $105,000 in school debt. The total figure
that I mentioned is (from highest to lowest): house, business loan, school
loan, car loans (2), business line of credit, and miscellaneous same-as-cash
deals for 3 A/C's, 2 x-ray units, and a server that I had to buy this year.
The school loan is locked at 7% over 30 years, and you can't consolidate at
a lower rate once you've already done it once. The only other loan that has
an interest rate over 5% right now is the damn business purchase loan that I
got in 1999. I got that one with no co-signer for 100% of the purchase
price of the practice...but the only way the lender would agree to no
co-signer was if they could lock me in with a steep early-payoff penalty for
the first 7 years of the 10 year note.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris'
financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

Who cares?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.

You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always
talking about. :-)

No one else could owe that much - who would lend it?


Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times...


Not if my life depended on it. Our lab was on the ground floor, and clinics
were on the third floor. It was a game among the instructors to have us run
up and down the stairs as many times as possible while the poor patient sat
there wondering if his/her student dentist just quit school and went home.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

Who cares?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.

You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always
talking about. :-)

No one else could owe that much - who would lend it?

You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this
summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple
got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage.
Neither one of them were great shakes in the wages department - he was
a wage/contract attorney for an insurance company and she was a
paralegal with a local attorney. People are betting that in the long
run, they will win the inflation lottery.

The broker told us that, while not common, they aren't all the
uncommon either.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

In article ,
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000!

Who cares?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****.
$100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five.

You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always
talking about. :-)

No one else could owe that much - who would lend it?

You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this
summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple
got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage.
Neither one of them were great shakes in the wages department - he was
a wage/contract attorney for an insurance company and she was a
paralegal with a local attorney. People are betting that in the long
run, they will win the inflation lottery.

The broker told us that, while not common, they aren't all the
uncommon either.

Yep.

Real estate is driving it.

If you can collateralize it, you can get the money.

But that's not truly "in hock", because there are assets backing the
note(s). If you don't pay, they take the house.

Credit card debt is unsecured. But I've seen card issuers do absolutely
crazy things, particularly if you shop around to the different issuers
and take out as many cards as you can.

Its not hard to run up $30k in credit card debt on a $100k salary - the
issuers will let you do it, although its suicidal for them since there's
not a snowball's chance in hell they will get it all back.

I know someone who had income of about $25k who was able to run over $35k
in card debt before the issuers caught up with them and it got ugly.

And no, they didn't own a house either - they were renting!

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