John H wrote:

all the congratulatory messages from Harry, jps, basskisser, gould, et al.

our capture of Saddam.

You're not very patient. It's just after 8 AM on the W coast, on a Sunday
morning.

Go and fornicate yourself, John.

Don't you ever dare to post an implication that I don't wish the best for this
country and our 300 million fellow citizens. Your screwed up perspective is
that you, only you, and those who think exactly like you have the only valid
opinions about how our society should run and what direction national policies
should take.

You shouldn't believe everything you hear on Rush Limbaugh. The high percentage
of Americans who disagree with your views are not traitors or national enemies.


Yes, I'm damn glad he's caught.
With the billions of dollars spent on an ill-advised war and the toll the
entire adventure has taken on US credibility throughout the world, it's
gratifiying to see that we have *something* tangible to show for it.

But let me ask you this- does capturing a tyrant suddenly mean that all the
statements Bush made to get us into Iraq
in the firtst place are suddenly any more true than they were this time
yesterday?

Let's hope the insurgency tapers off in Iraq.
If it does not, people will begin questioning the war more than ever - once the
capture of SH is old news.

On 14 Dec 2003 16:30:58 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

John H wrote:

all the congratulatory messages from Harry, jps, basskisser, gould, et al.

our capture of Saddam.

You're not very patient. It's just after 8 AM on the W coast, on a Sunday
morning.

Go and fornicate yourself, John.

Don't you ever dare to post an implication that I don't wish the best for this
country and our 300 million fellow citizens. Your screwed up perspective is
that you, only you, and those who think exactly like you have the only valid
opinions about how our society should run and what direction national policies
should take.

You shouldn't believe everything you hear on Rush Limbaugh. The high percentage
of Americans who disagree with your views are not traitors or national enemies.


Yes, I'm damn glad he's caught.
With the billions of dollars spent on an ill-advised war and the toll the
entire adventure has taken on US credibility throughout the world, it's
gratifiying to see that we have *something* tangible to show for it.

But let me ask you this- does capturing a tyrant suddenly mean that all the
statements Bush made to get us into Iraq
in the firtst place are suddenly any more true than they were this time
yesterday?

Let's hope the insurgency tapers off in Iraq.
If it does not, people will begin questioning the war more than ever - once the
capture of SH is old news.

Jeees. Where did I make this implication to which you refer? How much do I
listen to Rush? I disagree with about 75% of Rush's statements. Catching Saddam
has nothing to do with the truth of the statements Bush made. I believe Bush
made his statements in good faith. You, et al, don't. Or at least you say you
don't to maintain the party line.

Your bud, Harry, has made several posts without comment on the capture of
Saddam. As yet, jps has had no comment. Wonder why? Could it be because they
can't come up wit a way to put a negative spin on it?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

JohnH wrote:


Your bud, Harry, has made several posts without comment on the capture of
Saddam. As yet, jps has had no comment. Wonder why? Could it be because they
can't come up wit a way to put a negative spin on it?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


I've commented on the capture of Saddam. It's good that he's been
captured and will be the subject of a showy trial, but I don't think it
is a big deal. He hasn't been the head of state in Iraq for what, seven
months? And it took all of Bush's horses and all of Bush's men to find him?

Our invasion of Iraq wasn't the equivalent of the liberation of Belgium
or even the siege and relief of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge.
In Iraq, we took on a fifth-rate power whose uniformed military forces
collapsed shortly after we arrived.

I know you Conservatives want to make the toppling of Saddam the
greatest thing since sliced bread, but, in reality, all it is is a minor
positive blip in a sadly mistaken U.S. misadventure, one aimed at
propping up a failed US president in the popularity polls.




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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:02:51 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

JohnH wrote:


Your bud, Harry, has made several posts without comment on the capture of
Saddam. As yet, jps has had no comment. Wonder why? Could it be because they
can't come up wit a way to put a negative spin on it?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


I've commented on the capture of Saddam. It's good that he's been
captured and will be the subject of a showy trial, but I don't think it
is a big deal. He hasn't been the head of state in Iraq for what, seven
months? And it took all of Bush's horses and all of Bush's men to find him?

I doubt if a trial will be held soon. I think he will undergo some interrogation
first. Of course, many libs will say he's being mistreated, but we'll have to
live with that. I'm sure there's a bunch already complaining about his 'lice
check' being televised.

Our invasion of Iraq wasn't the equivalent of the liberation of Belgium
or even the siege and relief of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge.
In Iraq, we took on a fifth-rate power whose uniformed military forces
collapsed shortly after we arrived.

Tell that to the next hundred thousand about to go into mass graves.


I know you Conservatives want to make the toppling of Saddam the
greatest thing since sliced bread, but, in reality, all it is is a minor
positive blip in a sadly mistaken U.S. misadventure, one aimed at
propping up a failed US president in the popularity polls.

Well I'll be double-damned! You used the phrase "positive blip". That's the
first positive thing I've heard from you about the military, the administration,
or the USA. Times are indeed a'changing.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Wally, on the list of right wing people who seldom post anything except hate
mail to the NG, you're running a distant second to some broad from "down under"
something.

But keep it up. Practice makes perfect.
You too can become a puking fountain of stinking negativity if you put whatever
it is you use instead of a mind to it.

The difference between your perspective and mine is very simple. I believe you
have every right in the world to hold your opinions, (wrong as they are), and I
do not consider your obviously defective opinion (insert grin here) any sort of
threat to my own.

When was the last time you heard anybody on the left call you right-wingers
"traitors" or anti- American?

. Your screwed up perspective is
that you, only you, and those who think exactly like you have the only valid
opinions about how our society should run and what direction national
policies
should take.

LOL

You leftists are the only "true word", we all know that by now.

Gould 0738 wrote:

Wally, on the list of right wing people who seldom post anything except hate
mail to the NG, you're running a distant second to some broad from "down under"
something.

No one compares to your left-wing hate-monger krause.

Why is it that you liberals are such hypocrites?


When was the last time you heard anybody on the left call you right-wingers
"traitors" or anti- American?

Are you serious?

-- Charlie


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Wally, on the list of right wing people who seldom post anything except
hate
mail to the NG, you're running a distant second to some broad from "down
under"
something.

No one compares to your left-wing hate-monger krause.

Why is it that you liberals are such hypocrites?


Sometimes its important to read every word. "On the list of right wing
people....." is a clause that limits the consideration to a subgroup. That
subgroup consists of "right wing" people. I believe that "right wing" doesn't
include Harry Krause.

Harry can be exceptionally nasty. When he gets up a head of steam, he's as big
a flamer as anybody.




When was the last time you heard anybody on the left call you right-wingers
"traitors" or anti- American?



Are you serious?

-- Charlie


Darn right. You guys sit over in self-righteous heaven calling everybody who
disagrees with your perspective "traitors" and etc.

When was the last time anybody on the left called a right winger a "traitor"?
The liberal philosophy acknowledges that there can be more than one sincere
opinon, and that often times those opinions will disagree. (Don't worry- I have
no expectation that you would ever understand such a radical concept.)

Jeees. Where did I make this implication to which you refer?

With your comment that you're "still waiting".... (and the implication that you
are likely waiting in vain)....for any comment from several people, myself
specifically named in the group, expressing any satisfaction that Saddam
Hussein has been brought to ground.

Your bud, Harry, has made several posts without comment on the capture of
Saddam.

Nobody is responsible for Harry except Harry.

As yet, jps has had no comment. Wonder why

Could be because he's still asleep? Or, unlike some of us, doesn't respond to
momentous news by making a bee line for rec.boats?



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Gould 0738 wrote:


Nobody is responsible for Harry except Harry.

Nope, you're implicated also as a sycophant.

Stop being the apologist for this asshole. It makes you an asshole also.

-- Charlie


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Nope, you're implicated also as a sycophant.

Stop being the apologist for this asshole. It makes you an asshole also.

-- Charlie


Sigh. Here we go again.

Here's where I say, "Show me how I have apologized for Harry Krause,"

and your only response is, "You do it all the time."

IOW, arguing the point is a total waste of time.

There are 3-4 people who will agree with you- only because of an intense
dislike for me and/or Krause. Everybody else will see your accusation for the
bovine excrement it indeed is.