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Anchors are SUPPOSED to drag?
yup, according to a couple of real yo-yos on ths ng. if the anchor doesn't
move you haven't set it properly. anchors are *required* to move. my goodness! are those clowns on two-tone green pills or something???? or maybe they have been sniffing too much of that gasoline that has no oxygen atoms? yuk. |
bject: Anchors are SUPPOSED to drag?
From: (JAXAshby) Date: 09/24/2004 04:36 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: yup, according to a couple of real yo-yos on ths ng. if the anchor doesn't move you haven't set it properly. anchors are *required* to move. my goodness! are those clowns on two-tone green pills or something???? Doodles, reading your "cut and dried" mathematical, from the book, approach to anchoring, makes it real obvious, really quickly that most of your knowledge on the subject comes from books or magazines. Shen |
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schlackoff, one of the yo-yo's who insists an anchor is supposed to drag, steps
right up for all to see. (Steven Shelikoff) Date: 9/25/2004 11:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: On 24 Sep 2004 11:36:30 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote: yup, according to a couple of real yo-yos on ths ng. if the anchor doesn't move you haven't set it properly. anchors are *required* to move. my goodness! are those clowns on two-tone green pills or something???? or maybe they have been sniffing too much of that gasoline that has no oxygen atoms? yuk. Apparently Jox has never used an anchor. Either that or lack of oxygen to his brain is having an effect. Steve |
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schlackoff, once again caught being stew ped, flip-flops thusly below.
so, schlack which is it? an anchor is SUPPOSED to move (so it doesn't break the chain and/or deck chocks), or it is not supposed to move (and so does break the chain and/or decks chocks under certain storm conditions)? (Steven Shelikoff) Date: 9/26/2004 9:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: On 26 Sep 2004 12:07:53 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote: schlackoff, one of the yo-yo's who insists an anchor is supposed to drag, steps right up for all to see. Jox's oxygen deprivation has removed his ability to understand the difference between something that ideally would not move, but does move in the real world. Apparently he's never anchored anywhere with a tidal current or where the wind changes direction. Steve |
Does an anchor move or not?
only if it is set by a criminally negligent dumb **** trying to get his faggot ass sent jail for several years. |
If you're anchoring in a
bad storm and don't have enough scope, your anchor will break out no matter what you use for rode. nope. 10 to 1 on chain breaks the anchor loose, while 6 to 1 on nylon doesn't. sorry, dood, dem's da physics. which, of course, you don't understand anything except you wanna kill and/or injure someone. you wanna go to jail, dood. have fun with the 300# drug dealer, dood. you are going to be there a couple years. |
JAXAshby wrote:
Does an anchor move or not? only if it is set by a criminally negligent dumb **** trying to get his faggot ass sent jail for several years. The only thing you know about drag, JaxAss, is selection of "outfits" in your closet. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
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schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind.
Anchors are SUPPOSED to drag? From: (Steven Shelikoff) Date: 9/26/2004 9:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: On 27 Sep 2004 00:57:49 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote: If you're anchoring in a bad storm and don't have enough scope, your anchor will break out no matter what you use for rode. nope. 10 to 1 on chain breaks the anchor loose, while 6 to 1 on nylon doesn't. Yup, you just don't know how to anchor with chain, that's all. That's ok, it's just one more thing you don't know about. Steve |
JAXAshby wrote:
schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind. His "kind"? What, pray tell, do you mean by that? Steve's a bright guy. You aren't. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote: If you're anchoring in a bad storm and don't have enough scope, your anchor will break out no matter what you use for rode. nope. 10 to 1 on chain breaks the anchor loose, while 6 to 1 on nylon doesn't. sorry, dood, dem's da physics. which, of course, you don't understand anything except you wanna kill and/or injure someone. you wanna go to jail, dood. have fun with the 300# drug dealer, dood. you are going to be there a couple years. "dem's da physics" ROFLMAO Doodles, IF you had any experience at anchoring, you'd know how stupid this response is ...... since you don't....... otn |
Steve's a bright guy. You aren't.
hoary, steve barely got out of high school, and his 575 combined SAT score wouldn't get him into an open enrollment community college. |
over the knee, if you should ever try to anchor and should a storm come up, do
hope and pray you don't injure someone with your lazyness. for if you do, you will get up close and personal with a 300# drug dealer for a couple years. otnmbrd Date: 9/26/2004 10:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: et JAXAshby wrote: If you're anchoring in a bad storm and don't have enough scope, your anchor will break out no matter what you use for rode. nope. 10 to 1 on chain breaks the anchor loose, while 6 to 1 on nylon doesn't. sorry, dood, dem's da physics. which, of course, you don't understand anything except you wanna kill and/or injure someone. you wanna go to jail, dood. have fun with the 300# drug dealer, dood. you are going to be there a couple years. "dem's da physics" ROFLMAO Doodles, IF you had any experience at anchoring, you'd know how stupid this response is ...... since you don't....... otn |
JAXAshby wrote:
Steve's a bright guy. You aren't. hoary, steve barely got out of high school, and his 575 combined SAT score wouldn't get him into an open enrollment community college. I suspect Steve's SAT scores are higher than yours. I know mine are, and I didn't do badly, and I expect Steve beat me on the math SAT. I only got a 625 on that one. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind. His "kind"? What, pray tell, do you mean by that? his kind are the kind who purposely endanger the lives of others because they are too frickin lazy to anchor properly. you know, hoary, the clowns who "drag anchor" when in fact they purposely didn't set it correctly. Why are you so concerned about anchoring? You've got yourself a little puddle jumper sailboat, and I suspect you rarely leave the dock. I sailed in Long Island Sound, too, and, other than on really stormy days, it wasn't particularly challenging. It's not the ocean. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
over the knee, if you should ever try to anchor and should a storm come up, do hope and pray you don't injure someone with your lazyness. for if you do, you will get up close and personal with a 300# drug dealer for a couple years. Your roommate? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
hoary, most people on LIS anchor properly, for the anchoring conditions on LIS.
namely, a largesh Danforth on a few feet of chain and a lot of nylon. people who anchor on LIS seldom "drag anchor". the people I have had a problem with are those frickin lazy *******s who use all chain (because it runs through an electric windlass easier) and often on too short of scope and then "drag anchor" across the anchorage hitting boats all while claiming it is "an act of god" and not their fault at all. I was nearly hit by two such lazy *******s in twenty minutes, one of which went on to take out a 52 foot boat behind me. hoary, I have sailed a number of places not on LIS. In fact, my own boat is at this moment several hundred miles away from LIS. Harry Krause Date: 9/27/2004 7:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: JAXAshby wrote: schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind. His "kind"? What, pray tell, do you mean by that? his kind are the kind who purposely endanger the lives of others because they are too frickin lazy to anchor properly. you know, hoary, the clowns who "drag anchor" when in fact they purposely didn't set it correctly. Why are you so concerned about anchoring? You've got yourself a little puddle jumper sailboat, and I suspect you rarely leave the dock. I sailed in Long Island Sound, too, and, other than on really stormy days, it wasn't particularly challenging. It's not the ocean. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
hoary, most people on LIS anchor properly, for the anchoring conditions on LIS. namely, a largesh Danforth on a few feet of chain and a lot of nylon. people who anchor on LIS seldom "drag anchor". the people I have had a problem with are those frickin lazy *******s who use all chain (because it runs through an electric windlass easier) and often on too short of scope and then "drag anchor" across the anchorage hitting boats all while claiming it is "an act of god" and not their fault at all. I was nearly hit by two such lazy *******s in twenty minutes, one of which went on to take out a 52 foot boat behind me. There are lots of people with rope-chain combos who do not know how to anchor, and whose anchors drag. There are plenty of situations where you'll drag with almost any single anchor combo or technique. There are inlets with significant winds and currents and tidal forces where it doesn't matter what you are using, chair-rope, all chain, or a skyhook: you're lucky if anything works in a reasonable amount of time. I'm sure I have successfully anchored in places where you wouldn't dare. Stop trying so hard to be the agent provocateur of boating knowledge. It makes you look more foolish than your famous Speedo swimsuit photo. hoary, I have sailed a number of places not on LIS. In fact, my own boat is at this moment several hundred miles away from LIS. Yeah...where...in Columbus, Ohio? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
I suspect Steve's SAT scores are higher than yours. I know mine are, and I didn't do badly, and I expect Steve beat me on the math SAT. I only got a 625 on that one. hoary, neither you nor schlackoff has shown any aptitude whatsoever to indicate a capability of getting even a 625 on math. if I had received such a low score on my math I certainly would not have studied what I did. I would -- like you -- have chosen something like PolySci or Art History. Yeah, well, I felt lucky to get a 625 in math. I've never made any claims to being a math whiz. I did get an 800 on my verbal SAT and a perfect score of 152 on the National Merits. But in my era and at my high school, those kinds of scores were not unusual. We have more than a dozen kids in my junior class who got perfect scores on the Merits. I ended up with a liberal arts degree. I had no interest in a trade-school college education. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
I did get an 800 on my verbal SAT
yeah, sure, hoary. that is why you write so well. at my high school, those kinds of scores were not unusual. hoary, I don't think you know what a score of 800 is. they are indeed unusual, to say the least. |
I ended up with a liberal arts degree. I had no interest in a
trade-school college education. spoken just like the little kid who when he realizes he will never be able to reach the cookie jar claims he doesn't like cookies. so, hoary, just what did you do with the liberal arts degree you "ended up with" (your exact words) when you found out you couldn't be educated in anything useful? |
JAXAshby wrote:
I did get an 800 on my verbal SAT yeah, sure, hoary. that is why you write so well. at my high school, those kinds of scores were not unusual. hoary, I don't think you know what a score of 800 is. they are indeed unusual, to say the least. Idiot. There were kids in my junior class who racked up scores approaching 1600 for the pair, including a perfect 800 in either verbal or math. I ended up with 1425, thanks to my verbal. I was pleased with my math SAT. It was 50 points higher than my math PSAT the year earlier. What was your verbal? 435? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
I ended up with a liberal arts degree. I had no interest in a trade-school college education. spoken just like the little kid who when he realizes he will never be able to reach the cookie jar claims he doesn't like cookies. so, hoary, just what did you do with the liberal arts degree you "ended up with" (your exact words) when you found out you couldn't be educated in anything useful? I got into an Ivy grad school on a fellowship that paid for tuition. I still had to work to cover the other necessities. My degrees were useful enough to teach me to never pose in a Speedo bathing suit and allow the resulting photos to be published on the internet. What are your degrees in, JaxAss? And are you still working as a towel boy at the gay bathhouse? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
hoary, once again you show you don't have a clew about the real world. why do
you do you do that? Idiot. There were kids in my junior class who racked up scores approaching 1600 for the pair, including a perfect 800 in either verbal or math. I ended up with 1425, thanks to my verbal. I was pleased with my math SAT. It was 50 points higher than my math PSAT the year earlier. What was your verbal? 435? -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
hoary, once again you show you don't have a clew about the real world. why do you do you do that? Sorry, Jax-Ass, but this is another of those "conversations" your idiocy has ended. Now, go slip on your Speedo and hustle on down to the bathhouse where your buddies await you. Ta-ta -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
I got into an Ivy grad school on a fellowship that paid for tuition
hoary, you do NOT get into --- grad --- school, Ivy League or not, based on your SAT's. SAT's are used to determine undergrad admissions. someone with an 800 in verbals would know that, hoary. |
JAXAshby wrote:
I got into an Ivy grad school on a fellowship that paid for tuition hoary, you do NOT get into --- grad --- school, Ivy League or not, based on your SAT's. SAT's are used to determine undergrad admissions. someone with an 800 in verbals would know that, hoary. Refer back to your question, dickhead. You asked: "so, hoary, just what did you do with the liberal arts degree you "ended up with" (your exact words) when you found out you couldn't be educated in anything useful?" My answer: I got into an Ivy grad school. Now, on your way...I'm sure your buddies at the bath house are wondering where you are. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
genie, you are -- as usual -- confused. I have never stated that anchors are
supposed to drag. a dragging anchor means the sailor has made an error. all chain sailors make this error on purpose because they are too lazy to anchor properly and wish to use an electric windlass (which is easier to use with all chain). "Gene Kearns" Date: 9/27/2004 8:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: On 27 Sep 2004 11:17:19 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote: schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind. His "kind"? What, pray tell, do you mean by that? his kind are the kind who purposely endanger the lives of others because they are too frickin lazy to anchor properly. you know, hoary, the clowns who "drag anchor" when in fact they purposely didn't set it correctly. Geesh.... will you finally strike a pose and decide whether the anchor should drag on not. One post says it must drag, the next post says it mustn't drag... your argument has been clearly fallacious from the beginning, however,now, after posting a zillion times you have figured out that you were wrong..... no matter which one you pick... go ahead, get it over with and just decide *how* you are wrong. Now, "Speak!" -- Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC. http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/ Homepage http://www.southharbourvillageinn.com/directions.asp Where Southport,NC is located. http://www.southharbourvillageinn.linksysnet.com Real Time Pictures at My Marina http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide |
hoary, you do NOT get into any grad school based on a liberal arts degree you
"ended up with". someone with an 800 in verbals would know that, hoary. I got into an Ivy grad school on a fellowship that paid for tuition hoary, you do NOT get into --- grad --- school, Ivy League or not, based on your SAT's. SAT's are used to determine undergrad admissions. someone with an 800 in verbals would know that, hoary. Refer back to your question, dickhead. You asked: "so, hoary, just what did you do with the liberal arts degree you "ended up with" (your exact words) when you found out you couldn't be educated in anything useful?" My answer: I got into an Ivy grad school. Now, on your way...I'm sure your buddies at the bath house are wondering where you are. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
JAXAshby wrote:
genie, you are -- as usual -- confused. I have never stated that anchors are supposed to drag. a dragging anchor means the sailor has made an error. all chain sailors make this error on purpose because they are too lazy to anchor properly and wish to use an electric windlass (which is easier to use with all chain). Really? I have an "electric" windlass, and a mostly rope, partially chain rode...and you know what? It is perfectly easy to use. When I want to raise the anchor, I simply engage the engine, move towards the rode, and the windlass winds it up as we go. Usually the anchor comes up easily. If it is hard stuck, I reverse, let out line, attach an anchor ball, and use it to raise the anchor. This would be easier with chain? If I were using all chain, I'd need an anchor ball big as the pustule on your shoulders... You're full of ****, JaxAss. There are so many variables in anchoring that for you to claim that those who use all chain are lazy just shows what a dumb**** you really are. We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
In article , JAXAshby wrote: schackloof, you belong in jail. with all of your kind. His "kind"? What, pray tell, do you mean by that? his kind are the kind who purposely endanger the lives of others because they are too frickin lazy to anchor properly. you know, hoary, the clowns who "drag anchor" when in fact they purposely didn't set it correctly. Oh give me a break. If you have enough scope (like 10:1) anchors don't drag below their holding capability. ABOVE it, they drag, of course. Storm loads are extreme. There is also no guarantee that something won't foul your rode (like, for example, another boat) and cause you to get loose - often without any obvious reason AFTER the fact. There were a LOT of boats that got loose in Ivan around here. I'll bet that most of them got loose not because of their own mis-anchoring, but because someone else dragged into them - it only takes one pinball in the machine to screw dozens of people. That's why I do EVERYTHING in my power to avoid anchoring out for such an event, because while I have a shizload of brand new 3/4" rode to use for my anchors, I cannot control the other guy who gets loose, and it takes very little to screw you severely in a storm like this. One little pontoon boat that comes from shore and blows into your rode will hose you for sure. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , JAXAshby wrote: Yeah, well, I felt lucky to get a 625 in math getting a 625 is lucky? geesh, haory. I've never made any claims to being a math whiz. obviously. 625 WHEN? Prior to 1985 or so, a 625 was pretty goddamn good. Nowdays its not all that good, because they "re-normed" the test, all to make the lieberals look good. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article , JAXAshby wrote: Yeah, well, I felt lucky to get a 625 in math getting a 625 is lucky? geesh, haory. I've never made any claims to being a math whiz. obviously. 625 WHEN? Prior to 1985 or so, a 625 was pretty goddamn good. Nowdays its not all that good, because they "re-normed" the test, all to make the lieberals look good. -- I'm on the cusp of being an old fart, Karl. I took the SATs in, oh, 1961, I'd say. It was a pretty good score in math, but my high school graduating class was full of math geniuses, including a handful who got perfect 800s. One, my best friend, later won a big-time national math prize that presented him with a full scholarship to CalTech. He got a b.s. in physics, then got a master's in physics, then a doctorate in biology, and then, of all things, a law degree. We thought he'd never leave school. At last contact, his practice involved genetics and intellectual property law. He's still a very regular guy. -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
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Jesus! Reading some of JAX's posts are disturbing. Anybody know him
personally? Please say "NO".... |
Hepsabar Schlarbek wrote:
Jesus! Reading some of JAX's posts are disturbing. Anybody know him personally? Please say "NO".... There was a book and then a movie about him... "Looking for Mr. Goodbar." -- We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah. What, me worry? |
Subject: Anchors are SUPPOSED to drag?
From: (Hepsabar Schlarbek) Jesus! Reading some of JAX's posts are disturbing. Anybody know him personally? Please say "NO".... I know someone (in fact it's someone who we see in this group from time to time) who has met him, twice as I recall. From what I was told, after he introduced himself the first time they met he said, "I bet you think I'm an asshole." As I recall my friends response was a diplomatic one. :-) Capt. Bill |
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