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Old December 6th 03, 10:15 PM
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JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:47:41 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

NOYB wrote:
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After Yale, Bush applied to a third-rate law school in Texas.

There is no limit to the depth of your lies. Got any proof of this
allegation, Harry?



It's been reported, verified and re-reported dozens of times. The
information is out there...if you are that curious, you'll find it.





Here's a quickie I found in two seconds of searching; I've seen much
better references to this failure, though:

he Starr Report: October 12, 1999
Despite Yale diploma, George W. was
rejected by U of Texas Law School

By Linda L. Starr


George Dumbya Bush was rejected by the University of Texas Law School in
1973 after he had supposedly graduated from Yale, an Ivy League school!
How can this be true when at the time his father was the congressman
from Houston? Is this more rumor-mongering by liberals out to besmirch
the Golden Boy of the GOP?

No, his own mother was quoted in an interview with Skip Hollandsworth as
saying, "I think that got under his skin a litle bit, because I don't
think he was used to not doing what he wanted to do." when asked about
the rejection.

According to Clayton Day, Jr., one of his Yale classmates "He went there
for the same reason a lot of us did. I had a lot of degrees, but I
couldn't do anything. It was like trade school."

That is a pretty sad commentary to explain a wasted education at Yale.
How many people could go there, come out with a degree, and not be able
to do anything with it?

This makes me question Dumbya's whole new ideology about quality of
education based on money invested, as he claims with his plan for a
voucher program. If these rules he wants to apply to our nations' youth,
had been applied to him, he would find himself a common beggar with his
cup held out to strangers for survival money. He certainly has not
practiced the lectures he preaches to the common working poor. He
apparently feels he is above the rules of society all of us must accept
and adopt for our everyday living.

According to another Bush friend, Doug Hannah -- son of real estate
developer turned space rocket entrepreneur David Hannah -- Dumbya was
pretty cavalier in his 20s about girlfriends and drinking. When his
younger brother Marvin was just 15, Dumbya took him out drinking and
partying. Upon running over a neighbor's trash can on the way home,
father Bush called him into the den to discuss what happened, Dumbya
challenged "You want to go mano a mano right here?"

Terrific family morals exhibited here especially since Barbara states
there was no need to question Dumbya's behavior back then.

Then when Dumbya ran for Congress in 1978 against Kent Hance, he had his
first education in opposing the Christian Coalition. According to
Patricia Kilday Hart's article on Dumbya, he came under attack in the
University Daily, a Texas Tech student newspaper, for promising free
beer at a Bush campaign rally.

"Mr. Bush has used some of his vast sums of money...to persuade young
college students to vote for and support him by offering free alcohol
[to] them," wrote Lubbock attorney George Thompson III. Thompson in
conclusion deduced that Bush's virtues "do not indicate the same high
character as Hance."

One can assume that after that debacle, Dumbya Bush will never
underestimate the ability of the Religious Right to inflame voters.

Now I fear asking the obvious: Who does Dumbya Bush hope to buy with all
these millions of campaign contributions? Even worse, what will the
eventual price be to America if enough voters do sell their votes to the
highest bidder? And finally, what price will those who contribute
heavily to Dumbya's campaign demand later on down the road?


Harry, isn't this called "third order hearsay"? Read this piece of tripe, and
then say this constitutes 'proof' of anything. My mother told me that a freiend
of her girlfriend told her that....jeeeeesh!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD



John...it's been reported any number of places, and so have the remarks
of Dubya's mom.



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Old December 7th 03, 12:50 AM
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jps wrote:
In article ,
says...

jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Not only can't you mount an argument, you're just plain incoherent.

Are you drinking quite a bit?


So more personal abuse but surprise surprise the major simpleton of the
left still has no answers, yet again!!!




You don't have a question worth answering.


So it should be easy for you then, go for it.

Your idiotic claims haven't
any substance and they're not worth the effort.


No I know you lefties avoid "effort" as hard as you do responsibility,
initiative, loyalty, risk taking (with your own money) & the truth.

These posts of yours seem only to be a vehicle for your affection for
Harry. Why don't you give up on him, he's married already.

I have to say this Harry grub has bullied women out of this NG for
years & it now transpires he can't take it?? as usual you lefties are
tribal so feel safe in a herd, run in circles around him all you like I
don't care. Fly with the crows you get shot with the crows.


Isn't it a hoot that they all lie & mostly claim to be "employers"
always on socialist terms of course. It just confirms they're green with
envy & are only lefties because they can't cut it in open competition,
even with each other!!!




Who among the left claim to be employers other than me? I think you've
gone over the deep end.


Ready?? Are you really ready??? It's..............it's that well known
employer from the left................... it's.........Harry!!!! Harry
has just made the same socialist claim you have & both are false
fabrications!! what are the odds of that??? Both with the same lies
within a few days of each other??? I'm betting on a whale falling out of
space next.

Read below it's his own words.


I don't give a hoot what you believe, that's your choice. I don't lie
about my personal circumstances. You have no evidence to the contrary
and yet you call me a liar. Makes you look foolish.


So tell us what industry "you" employed these people in??? then. It's
your claim jps, in true Harry fashion for the same reason, so you can
pretend you know something of business.




Yep you're the people who should be running the world in troubled
times, liars & loons.



You have no basis upon which to assume I'm a liar.


When a simpleton says they employ people & then that they give them
over the top socialist dream wages & conditions, I do have reason to
call you a liar & do so right here right now.

I have plenty of
basis upon which to assume you're a bitch.


You're right about the fact that the left should be running things right
now. Afterall, look what your imbecilic "conservative's" approach to
solving problems has wrought. They've managed to organize and align
Moslem nations against the US,


Thats' not correct, indeed many of the so called "Moslem" nations have
pulled their heads in as they well should, they've seen how easy it is
for you to set things right & know if they are a risk to the west we'll
come & deal with them next. You should be thanking Pres. Bush every
morning of your govt funded life.

raid the US federal budget, grow the
federal government faster than anytime in history other than immediately
after WWII,


This is worse than WW11, there was never an attack like 911 on the US,
not ever. Pearl Harbour was much less of a risk to you yet you mobilised
as you should have & now you're doing it again, but being very
restrained. Yes war costs the budget but that's the same in every war,
it's not Bushes fault.

wreck havoc on the personal freedoms which set America apart
from your inconsequential British colonies,


Again tell us exactly where the new laws designed to protect you have
impacted on "your" life. Here we're all very happy to be searched &/or
scanned at airports, we agree with the detention for questioning laws,
again there are reasonable safeguards. Your side will risk lives in the
name of your bent ideologies. Everything done is in accord with yours or
ours or britons or whoevers constitutions, so sorry jps get used to it
that's called democracy. Govt's are there for the good of all not just
to pander to whims of the noisiest special interest groups.

squander all goodwill among
our allies in the world.


Who?? France & fgmy?? Gees louise 2 lefties what a surprise & now they
want to "expand" their own defense potentially outside NATO. Watch out
this century is shaping up like the last & with the very same lefty
socialists in play, you've been warned!!!

Quite a number of accomplishments in less than
3 years of Bush.


He's sorted out afghanistan, something russia couldn't do for 20 yrs,
he's gotten rid of saddam, he's made sure there have been no more
attacks on US territory, protecting you & your family Note the
terrorists are trying as hard as they can russia, bali, endless other
places, but their target of choice?? they can't even get near it because
of your Pres's. decisive actions, well done!!!.

All the while he's dealt with the tech wreck & the stock implosion such
that a world wide economic disaster looks like being averted. Yep whata
man!!! go for it!!

Have another pint Karen.


If I was a drinker I would that was good work & thanks.


K

Here's some of Harry's lies for you, just to bring back old memories:-)



I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer

for my


staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.


I need more staff because 2004 is a major election year and business
booked to date indicates we'll be drowning in work. We need to hire a
production coordinator, too. It has very little to do with the state of
the economy, other than using it as reason to defeat Republicrap
candidates.


I'm doing my part to ease unemployment. I'm hiring another writer

for my

staff. Will be putting the ad on MONSTER.COM and in the Wash Post.





We have first-class benefits, including a top-of-the-line health
insurance plan, a non-contributory defined-benefit pension plan, a 401k,
and a life insurance policy equal to annual salary. We contribute a
share of profits to the 401k on behalf of the employee. Our employees
pay $4.50 for generic prescriptions and $8.00 for non-generics, but
that's going up next year to $10 and $15. New employees get two weeks
vacation the first year, and that goes to three weeks the third year. In
addition, we have 12 paid holidays and we shut down from noon on
Christmas eve to the day after New Year's Day. We also provide 20 days
of paid sick leave a year. And we have an outside company administering
pre-tax flexible bennies for our employees.
Our fringe benefit package follows the trade union model, except, of
course, for the profit contributions to 401k's. Trade unions are
not-for-profit enterprises.
How do these compare to the bennies at your shop?

Paid? Every year? I call "bull****". With 3 weeks vacation, 12 paid
holidays, and 20 paid sick days that's 47 *paid* days off every year.

Are
they hourly employees? For a "small business", that's the road to
bankruptcy.

Boy...and you had me going there for a minute.

Not quite so simple, though you are trying hard to make it so. Our
business is up because we're on the cusp of an election year. Our
business always goes up in a major election year.
You could say we're going to be doing very well in 2004 because Bush is
such a total failure.


The 20 paid sick days aren't part of the "paid" days off unless those
days are used. None of our people abuses sick leave. In fact, no one as
yet has even come close to using 20 sick days in one year. They're there
in case they're needed.


Oh, I forgot. We also provide everyone with LTD.

The company provides an insurance plan that pays 50% of an employe's
salary for Long Term Disability. Employes have the option of purchasing
an additional 16.66%, bringing their total to 66.66%. The basic benefit
maximum is $4,000 per month. With the buy up, the limit is increased to
$10,000 per month.



Here's just some of his prior lies (in his own words pasted);

I sold off nearly $3,000,000 in new motors and boats, depressing
the new boat
industry in southern Connecticut for an entire season. Everything was
sold...every
cotter pin, every quart of oil, 30 days after I started. For near
full-retail, too.


He had just under $1,000,000 on floor plan with a
syndicate of banks led by National Shawmut of Boston. He had been a
solid customer of that back for more than 20 years and they gave him
great rates.



As far as your other complaints, well, almost every president in

my memory,
and I *remember* Truman, Eisenhower (who cheated on his wife),

Kennedy,
Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush, lied and

participated in
deceit to one degree or another, and on issues far more important

than who
was giving them blow jobs.

Good lord. I met *every* president in the damned group except

Bush, and I
worked once for his father.



My father used to pray that the north shore of LI Sound would be

hit by
a mild hurricane. No
one injured, no on-shore property damaged, but lots of boats sunk.
Preferably early in July.


We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold

clear, a
broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary

assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid
for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full

years. So,
we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any,

either.
The proceeds were prudently invested.

The PWC was won as
a prize in a raffle.



Never mind that. Why does he have a Bilgeliner in front of his

office?
Is it a display of "Boating Don'ts?"
Yeah, when we were in the boat biz, my father always had one or two







"around the back" that he was forced to take in trade. These were

sold
as "as is, where is." He made sure the engine would start and run.
Beyond that, it was up to the prospective buyer to decide if he

wanted
it. They moved off the lot pretty quickly, partially because my dad's
main store was on a highly trafficked commercial route with lots of
manufacturing and machining and aerospace plants near by. In

those days,
workers at these places could fix anything.


Actually, Dipper, I don't think my father ever saw a Bayliner.

But he still
called bumpers bumpers.
--



Bayliner wined and dined my father a half dozen times to

entice him
into becoming its dealer. His operation was the largest small boat
dealership in its area of New England, and for 30 years, he was the
*exclusive* Evinrude dealer in a densely populated coastal county. He
also handled Mercuries. He never liked Bayliners, and referred to

them
as "jerry-built."


From 1947 until he died, he sold more than 500 outboard motors a
year from his stores, accounting for a reasonably high percentage

of *all*
outboards sold in his home state for those years.


This is a killer. My father was in the boat business dating back to
right after
the Big War. When he died and I was looking through his

warehouse, I found
wrapped in a nuclear fall-out bag (no kidding), a brand-new 1949
Evinrude 8015
50 hp outboard. The motor was a gift to my father from Evinrude for
winning some
outboard stock utility or hydroplane race.

I gave the motor to a friend of my dad's, who worked at the shop

as head
mechanic. I don't believe he ever used it and I'm sure it is still
brand-new. I
have no idea who might own it now.



He also built
boats, and I worked on a few, both wood, glass covered wood and
all fiberglass. After he died, however, we sold the biz and I've
just been an occasional boat owner.


Besides, I worked off and on in the
boat business and inherited it when he died. So, as I said I'm
knee-deep in boat heritage.


Oh,
and I had some friends who died in the service, too, but it

wasn't for
what they believed in. They were drafted, shipped to Vietnam and came
back in body bags.


During the war, he turned out experimental brass shell casings
for the
Army and hopped up outboards for the Navy, which wanted to use

them on
smaller
landing craft. I had photos at one time of my father with Ole

Evinrude
himself.
My mother knew one of Evinrude's wives...she was a minor movie

star or
singer...I forgot which. Maybe both.



Have you ever sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii? I have.
Have you ever rounded Cape Horn? I have, twice.
Have you ever transited the Panama Canal? I have.
Have you owned more than 20 boats in your lifetime? I have.
Have you ever sailed large boats competitively? I have.
Have you ever been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat

under your
command? I have.


My father and his chief mechanic once crossed the Atlantic in

winter in
a 22'
boat powered by twin outboards. Yes, it is possible, even the

fuel. Got a
"fireboat" welcome in NYC.




Here are some:

Hatteras 43' sportfish
Swan 41' racing/cruising sloop
Morgan 33
O'Day 30
Cruisers, Inc., Mackinac 22
Century Coronado
Bill Luders 16, as sweet a sailboat as ever caught a breeze.
Century 19' wood lapstrake with side wheel steering
Cruisers, Inc. 18' and 16' wood lapstrakes
Wolverines. Molded plywood. Gorgeous. Several. 14,15,17 footers

with various
Evinrudes
Lighting class sailboat
Botved Coronet with twin 50 hp Evinrudes. Interesting boat.
Aristocraft (a piece of junk...13', fast, held together with spit)
Alcort Sunfish
Ancarrow Marine Aquiflyer. 22' footer with two Caddy Crusaders.
Guaranteed 60
mph. In the late 1950's.
Skimmar brand skiff
Arkansas Traveler fiberglass bowrider (I think it was a bowrider)
Dyer Dhow
Su-Mark round bilge runabout, fiberglass
Penn Yan runabouts. Wood.
Old Town wood and canvas canoe
Old Town sailing canoe...different than above canoe



Sometime in the early 1960s, I was driving back from Ft. Leonard

Wood to
Kansas City in a nice old MGA I owned at the time. About halfway

home it
started raining heavily, I turned on the wipers, and EVERY SINGLE
electrical accessory and light in the car flashed on, there was a

large
popping sound and it all blew out at once. And the car caught fire. I
pulled over to the side of the road, watched the fire, removed my
license plate and hitched on home. For all I know, that old MGA

is still
there.

Sure was a pretty little car.


Puh-lease, Karen. You've not seen nor have I ever posted one

example of
my professional writings on building structure and the effects on

it of
hurricane-force winds and seismic activity. I haven't done any of

these
in at least 10 year, but at the time I was field researching,
photographing and writing these reports, they were quite accurate,
topical and well-received by their intended audiences.


A small fleet of Polar skiffs were purchased by an inshore bait,

tackle

and boat rental business on the ICW in NE Florida. These boats

were not
used on open waters. Within 90 days, cracks developed in the

liners that
also served as the deck over the flotation in the bottom of the

hulls. A
guide I know, one whose boats and engines are supplied to him by
manufacturers, also had a Polar skiff go bad on him for the same

reasons
-liner and then hull fractures.







Harry has claimed to have a 20 yrs his junior beautiful wife, he

even put a fake pic of a beautiful woman on a website once claiming it
was his "young bride", he may have a wife, although I doubt it, we don't
like nor tolerate misogynists for long.

Needless to say he's made up many "dramatic" over the top

stories over the years about this lie to feed his ego & pretend he's the
centre of attention, but as with his boat claims & other crap, there's
never once been even a shred of independently verifiable material.

After he stalked Madcow in real life, which was most

frightening, I do suspect he's very very dangerous & that this "bride"
story is his delusional appropriation of his, probably court ordered,
treating psychotherapist as "wife" (it seems he was under lock & key for
what?? over a year??? a sexual deviant maybe??), have a read of just a
small part of his BS & make up your own mind, it's all about free choice:-)


1. She *is* my bride. There are no rules that determine the end of
"bride-hood." If I want to refer to her as my bride, I may.

2. As a professional writer, I know the rules of language and am

entitled to
break them in exercise of my license.

3. I doubt many married women would object to their husbands lovingly
referring to them as brides. The connotations are pleasant.

4. She's 20 years younger than I am.



Naw. What happened was that I handled a couple of "political"

consulting
jobs funded out of the DC area to help a few candidates and defeat a
couple of ballot issues. Through no fault of mine, we won each of the
races, so some of the deep pockets types based in the DC area think I
actually *know something* about the process. I was offered a contract
that requires my presence in DC quite frequently. My bride also was
offered a job up here that represented a significant professional

career
move. So, we're "up here" much of the time and "down there" the rest of
it, except when we're "somewhere else." I've been back to Jax (well,
really south of Jax) five times since coming "up here" late last summer
and my bride just returned from a business trip there.

I swear this is true.


Here's a funny. My bride had to fly out to San Diego Wednesday and
hitched a ride on her company's corporate jet. They landed in Salina,
Kansas, which is due north of Wichita and Skippy's suburb of Derby.

So when she gets to San Diego, I get a call asking, "What the hell did
you do in Kansas...we didn't fly over one significant patch of
water...?"

Harry, you make over 500 posts a week to this group and you don't own
a boat?
And why are you so crabby?
Maybe these two factors are related?



One has to own something to use it? Hmmm. My bride drives off in

her car
every day, but she doesn't own it.

I'm not crabby. You asked for advice I gave you some. I questioned your
wanting to take a very small boat out into high seas and suddenly you
turned sour. It's your pot; you are the one stewing in it.

No, it is the boat of a friend. It is a 24' ProLine center console

with,
if I recall, a 225 hp Merc on it. It was a dark and stormy day in
January (1997) when we went out, but the sky cleared once we got out to
the Gulf Stream.


Bride and I caught and released:

1 white marlin
12-15 yellowtail snappers, maybe two pounds each. Pretty, pretty fish.
Assorted red snappers
1 amberjack
2 jack crevalle jacks
1 snook
Nondescript sharks

Did you spend a year as a line psychotherapist at a 650-bed state
hospital for forensic patients?
Did you spend a year as senior psychotherapist at a county facility for
substance abusers?
Did you spend two years as chief of therapy at a private, 200-bed
facility for the mentally and emotionally ill, at which approximately
half the patients were trying to beat drugs or alcohol?
Are you currently chief of therapy for a for a multi-practitioner
practice of some 825 patients, about a third of which are seeking help
for substance abuse problems?


Licensed psychotherapist
Screening as to character and background for each degree earned
On-going screening by faculty while in educational system
Interviews and screenings for required years of internships, plus,

at the same
time, supervision by a licensed professional.
Close professional and personal supervision by a licensed therapist

for two years
of employment before being allowed to apply for licensure
Licensure background check, submission of recommendations by licensed
practitioners
Four hour written examination on state laws
Five hour written examination on diagnosis, procedure and practice

My wife went through this before becoming licensed. Her final

internship was as a
psychotherapist at a 600-bed high security state psychiatric

hospital where, on a
daily basis, she was exposed to more danger than your average soldier.

My wife worked for a year as psychotherapist in a Florida 600-bed state
mental institution for forensic patients. She saw and treated numerous
sexual deviants who do a bit more than expose themselves. Such

"treatment"
is part of being in the mental health professions.


You see, I'm a nautical psychotherapist, and for only $125 an hour,
until their health insurance runs out, I help Bayliner owners

overcome their
feelings of boatable inadequacy.


She is a licensed, practicing
psychotherapist and often tells me I am the sanest person she sees each
day. Which can be taken any way one likes.


1. I'm married to a psychotherapist. Live-in therapy, dontcha know?

And much of
Freud is passe.

My ex-wife surpassed the anti-Christ at least a decade ago.

They're not actually "free" moments. I go to boat dealers to round-up
Bayliner owners who are trying to find one who will take their own
version of flotsam and jetsam in on trade.


1. The address listed is not a home address. It is an office.

2. I have three phone numbers. The phone number listed is not one of
mine. It has never been one of mine. The phone number *did* belong

to an
after-hours message recording hotline my wife maintained for her most
mentally disturbed patients. Some of these troubled souls were
court-ordered referrals. *Every* call to that phone number--every
call--was recorded AND because of the nature of the line, my wife had
the ability to alert the telephone company to trace the phone number of
every incoming call to that line, *even* if the person making the call
tried to block his number.

Why, you might ask? Because when you are dealing with suicidal people,
they'll liable to tell their therapist over the phone that they are
planning to take their life. If the therapist believes the threat is
real, she or he will want to dispatch emergency srvices and perhaps the
police.

In the years my wife has provided this pro bono service, she has never
received a threatening or abusive call from a mentally ill patient or
court-ordered referral. However, after the ranking Flaming Ass of this
newsgroup posted the hotline number in this newsgroup, she received a
number of abusive, foul-mouthed AND life-threatening calls. These were
mostly directed at me but, of course, I never received them BECAUSE
(duh!) the phone is not mine and I've never answered it.
Naturally, my wife alerted the authorities, with whom she works closely
because of her court-referred patients. The authorities are
investigating the callers and have involved both the FBI *and*
authorities in other states, including Florida, Georgia, California and
Texas. Working with the telephone company, the authorities have been
able to trace the origin of virtually every abusive call. And, of
course, they have the tape recordings of the abusive messages. Several
suspects have been identified. I really don't know what the outcome of
all this will be. We haven't had an update in several weeks, nor are
either of us here that interested in the sleazeballs that would make
such calls.


The phone number, of course, is "wired," so when the obnoxious

calls came in
from the idiot rec.boaters, the numbers were easy enough to trace.

The local
police handled a complaint, the local telco was involved and when

it was
discovered the point of origin was out of state, the FBI got

involved. At
least one of the idiots was caught and prosecuted. As far as I can

tell, he
has not posted here again


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Harry Krause wrote:

and you haven't dropped your drawers in front of a man for 40 years.


Why do your thoughts in attacking others inevitably focus upon the
genitals? I suspect that you're inadequate in that area yourself.

You're a poster boy of the liberal left.

-- Charlie


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Harry Krause wrote:

Nice try, douchebag.


I remember when Lee used this kind of language to describe you in this
newsgroup, you began to whine and cry about his potty mouth.

No wonder your picture is next to the definition of hypocrite in the dictionary.

-- Charlie


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Harry Krause wrote:

As has been mentioned a zillion times, Bush's daddy and grandpa got him
into both Yale and Harvard.


It all boils down to this: Bush is president and you're just a sad liar
living a vicarious boating life in a usenet newsgroup.

-- Charlie


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Harry Krause wrote:

Interesting pattern...Karen behaves badly towards anyone who disagrees
with her.


Well, golly gee, we ain't never seen that before from anyone in this
newsgroup, now have we?

Are you really this stupid, or are you just rattled?

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to
evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They

are
two distinct entities...


And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry),

apology
accepted.


That's OK, Chuck. The rest of my earlier post still applies:

You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point
where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a
one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles
words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a
one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout
qualifies as a dunce, too.




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NOYB wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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My apologies to Chuck. After some reading, apparently there are tests to
evaluate verbal IQ...as there are tests to evaluate non-verbal IQ. They

are
two distinct entities...


And, after firing off a scathing rebuttal to your earlier post (sorry),

apology
accepted.


That's OK, Chuck. The rest of my earlier post still applies:

You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point
where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a
one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles
words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a
one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout
qualifies as a dunce, too.






Oh, there's more to Bush's duncemanship than his word-mangling.


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You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point
where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a
one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he mangles
words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a
one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout
qualifies as a dunce, too.


Intelligence is a personal quality, somewhat like talent. You don't become more
"intelligent" by going to school, nor does graduating from a course of study
indicate that the one is more intelligent than those who did not pursue the
same course.

You confuse "educated" with "intelligent".

Education may help a person maximize his or her native intelligence. Education
may help a person be better informed.
Take your own case, for example. You are no more "intelligent" now than you
were before you went to dental school- but you are a hell of a lot more
informed about dentistry. Compare yourself to an individual who studied physics
rather than dentistry- that person will know a lot less about dentristry than
you will and you will know less about physics. Which of you is more or less
intelligent? Does a DDS trump a PhD in physics? Always?

As far as:




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Old December 7th 03, 05:15 AM
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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You come across as a pretty intelligent person...right up until the point
where you criticize the President's intelligence. You've applied a
one-trait litmus test to Bush, and have determined that because he

mangles
words while speaking in public, he must be a dunce. In a
one-trait-litmus-test world, some might say that a high school dropout
qualifies as a dunce, too.


Intelligence is a personal quality, somewhat like talent. You don't become

more
"intelligent" by going to school, nor does graduating from a course of

study
indicate that the one is more intelligent than those who did not pursue

the
same course.

You confuse "educated" with "intelligent".

Education may help a person maximize his or her native intelligence.

Education
may help a person be better informed.
Take your own case, for example. You are no more "intelligent" now than

you
were before you went to dental school- but you are a hell of a lot more
informed about dentistry. Compare yourself to an individual who studied

physics
rather than dentistry- that person will know a lot less about dentristry

than
you will and you will know less about physics. Which of you is more or

less
intelligent? Does a DDS trump a PhD in physics?


I dunno. Physics was always my best subject (I have a Mechanical
Engineering degree)...but dentistry provided a lot better way to make a
living IMO.





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