Subject: "Deep Six" those big old 2 strokes now
From: (Greg)

What is going to happen with all these older outboards when teh 2006
EPA standards take effect?


Nothing as I understand it. They're grandfathered in.

Capt. Bill

I suppose it really depends on the state you are in. Ask anyone with an old
car
what they have to go through in some states.

Have some states come out with a plan to sniff test outboards after 2006?

Capt. Bill

Have some states come out with a plan to sniff test outboards after 2006?

They can sniff my Johnson.

Have some states come out with a plan to sniff test outboards after 2006?


There are already places like the Peoples Republic of California that are
banning carburated 2 strokes on lakes.

I think there is a place for 2 strokes and a place for 4 strokes.

Yes, and if there were some decent mechanics around here that would actually
get your boat back to you before the end of NEXT season a new 4 stroke would be
nice. If you didnt need 4 million dollars worth of diagnostic equipment to fix
one, a new four stroke would be nice.

I'll give up my old 2 stroke when they pry my cold, dead fingers off the
throttle. Hmmm, that sounds familiar.

There are already places like the Peoples Republic of California that are
banning carburated 2 strokes on lakes.

How will they catch them? Surely not with a 4 stroke. Lets be real.

I can build a box with a bunch of wires and stuff and say it's a prototype
DFI tower.

:P

-W

"CCred68046" wrote in message
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There are already places like the Peoples Republic of California that are
banning carburated 2 strokes on lakes.

How will they catch them? Surely not with a 4 stroke. Lets be real.

I can build a box with a bunch of wires and stuff and say it's a prototype
DFI tower.

I'll paint mine silver and buy some Honda decals. =)

There are already places like the Peoples Republic of California that are
banning carburated 2 strokes on lakes.

How will they catch them? Surely not with a 4 stroke. Lets be real.


They wait at the gas dock!

Also Sprach Bill Kiene :
There are tons of old boats around with large (over 100hp) old 2 strokes
that are no longer worth the trouble especially with labor, parts and fuel
costs.

Feh. My 140 HP Johnson is almost as old as I am, and has been 100%
relible in the 5 years I've owned it. Parts, if needed, are far cheaper
than a brand new 4-stroke or DFI 2 stroke. For one thing, there are far
fewer parts to begin with. Also, since it's been around forever, there
are plenty of aftermarket manufacturers to buy parts from, while with a
brand new engine you have no choice other than the manufacterer's
parts.

An example, I replaced the water pump earlier this season. It cost me
$39.95 for a complete kit, new impeller, gaskets, housing and
liner. Anyone want to look up what it costs for a 2004 4-stroke of
similar size?

The fuel cost argument is a non-starter. A few extra gallons a
year is FAR cheaper than spending 15,000 plus installation costs to
repower.

Dan

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JESUS SAVES, but I makes backups!

An example, I replaced the water pump earlier this season. It cost me
$39.95 for a complete kit, new impeller, gaskets, housing and
liner. Anyone want to look up what it costs for a 2004 4-stroke of
similar size?

Mynew 4 stroke 60 big foot uses exactly the same kit as my 1989 75 2 stroke.