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Revised COLREGS bell requirements
That's what irritates me about surveyors. There is no damm requirement for a
compass deviation card, or compass for that matter. Neither an EPIRB, an anchor, a high bilge alarm, etc. However, if they put that on the survey the insurance company is probably going to require you put them in within 30 days. "Rosalie B." wrote in message ... x-no-archive:yes "Doug Dotson" wrote: After perhaps 8 or so surveys over the years being both purchase surveys (which are the expensive ones) and insurance surveys ( which are the cheaper ones), I've never had any surveyor mention anything about the CG mandated equipment other than fire extinguishers begin sufficuent and current. None of any of the surveyors checklists contained anything about flares, signalling devices, PFDs, waste management plan, oil discharge placard, waste discharge rules placard, etc. Those items are left to the CG safety inspection or the courtesy inspections conducted by the CG Aux. No insurance has had any complaints other than sending me a form that I could indicate that I complied or wil comply with the "required" items. OTOH we've had 1 purchase survey and several insurance surveys and all of them addressed all or most of those items. I thought that was the norm. I just got out the initial survey to look at it and on the last page it addresses: Minimum Inshore and Coastal Equipment -horn and/or whistle (aboard) -bell (none observed) -PFDs - aboard all US CG approved including throwable type IV -fire extinguishers - all mounted and show charge -automatic fire suppression for engine room (none at that time, but we've got one now) -compass (Ritchie) and deviation table for compass (none observed) -distress flares (aboard and correspond to CG regulations) -anchors (listed the Danforth) -gas vapor detector (none but we have one now) -high bilge alarm (none) -first aid kit (none observed but we have one now) -bilge pumps - work - EPIRB (none but we have one now) -USCG No discharge sign (posted) -Federal no dumping sign-posted (no garbage management plan was seen, but we have one now) Of course all the surveyors were from the same office. The pre-purchase surveyor was the head guy in the office and we picked him on the recommendation of several trusted friends and relatives as THE surveyor in the area (the broker was unhappy but couldn't do anything about it), and he lived up to his reputation. In fact when we switched insurance companies, the new insurance company took his pre-purchase survey without requiring another one. The other surveyors from that office used the initial survey to check off that we'd fixed the things that were mentioned as deficient in the first survey. We did have a CGX courtesy inspection, and Bob did not show them the autoinflate PFDs that we wear when underway because they aren't approved. He just showed them the regular life vests. "Rod McInnis" wrote in message ... "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... A surveyor has no business in this kind of thing. Why do you say that? I have had several surveys done, and each time I had the option of a "limited" survey focusing on a specific item or a "general" survey that covered overall value, integrity and condition. The insurance company is going to want the overall survey, and they will want to know that the vessel has all the "recommended" safety equipment, which is often over and above the required list. In order to provide such a survey to the insurance company, the surveyor DOES have the business of being in this kind of thing. Rod McInnis grandma Rosalie S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD CSY 44 WO #156 http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html |