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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: "P.Fritz" wrote in message ... "jim--" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...q=/ff/story/00 01/20040828/1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? One can only hope that basskisser isn't allowed to procreate. If he is, it's just proof that God *does* have a sense of humor. Personal insults just show that you can't disagree with what I've stated. LMAO!!!!!!!!! This coming from the king of personal insults. Yep.....typical of the socialist lefties.......they whine about others doing the same thing they do........LMAO too Where did I whine, you ignorant putz? I simply stated a fact. Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. |
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On 1 Sep 2004 08:02:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. Allow me to establish the thread: On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. Jim posted this: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. I posted this: So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? You posted this: In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? Be honest - would you do it? Later, Tom Which you never answered and I'm still curious what it will be. Check out the thread if you don't believe me. By the way, there is no reason to use harsh language - it's just a simple question. Later, Tom |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 1 Sep 2004 08:02:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. Allow me to establish the thread: On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. Jim posted this: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...q=/ff/story/00 01/20040828/1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. I posted this: So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? You posted this: In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? Be honest - would you do it? Later, Tom Which you never answered and I'm still curious what it will be. Check out the thread if you don't believe me. By the way, there is no reason to use harsh language - it's just a simple question. bassie's neurons misfire every now and again. What begins as swearing, quickly progresses to threats about snapping someone's neck or spitting in their face. |
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:13:35 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On 1 Sep 2004 08:02:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. Allow me to establish the thread: On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. Jim posted this: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...q=/ff/story/00 01/20040828/1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. I posted this: So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? You posted this: In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? Be honest - would you do it? Later, Tom Which you never answered and I'm still curious what it will be. Check out the thread if you don't believe me. By the way, there is no reason to use harsh language - it's just a simple question. bassie's neurons misfire every now and again. What begins as swearing, quickly progresses to threats about snapping someone's neck or spitting in their face. I find it curious that faced with a nexus of choice which requires critical thinking going well beyond calling Bush a liar or Kerry a fudgepacker or reposting articles to "prove" one point or another logic fails. Of the three people who responded my questions, none actually answered. When faced with a choice that requires an examination of their own decision making as opposed to that they theoretically despise, they fail to make the critical connections - to wit: They would pretty much do the same thing when faced with the same choice. That challenges their own image as self-rightgeous and being "correct". Thus, avoidance. The odd thing is, viewed critically, this election is about which patrician silver spoon scion of a well-to-do family who has benefitted from his family connections his whole life is a better leader. Oddly, they are both Yale graduates, both Bonezers, etc, etc, etc. Oddly, when you examine their potential policies, they are pretty much identical. Oddly, one used a trick out to exit the Guard, the other used a trick out to avoid more than four months of combat. Neither one has a true understanding of what it takes to be a regular American who pays taxes, pays bills, has health care issues, etc. So whats the arguing about. War? War is an existential state of humanity. Every day everyone enters and exits a state of conflict. In some cases it's the killing kind of conflict where soldiers kill people and break stuff. In others it's calling Bush an idiot or Kerry a fudgepacker. In other cases it's flipping the bird to the gal who just cut you off at an intersection. Conflict is conflict. War happens - get over it. Whole societies exist to enact war on each other - it's just the way it is. And with that, I will close my participation in this thread because I don't really care to continue it. It ain't worth it. So, I'm think of buying a '66 Luhrs sport boat for restoration. Any advice? ;) Later, Tom |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:13:35 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On 1 Sep 2004 08:02:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. Allow me to establish the thread: On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. Jim posted this: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...dq=/ff/story/0 0 01/20040828/1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. I posted this: So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? You posted this: In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? Be honest - would you do it? Later, Tom Which you never answered and I'm still curious what it will be. Check out the thread if you don't believe me. By the way, there is no reason to use harsh language - it's just a simple question. bassie's neurons misfire every now and again. What begins as swearing, quickly progresses to threats about snapping someone's neck or spitting in their face. I find it curious that faced with a nexus of choice which requires critical thinking going well beyond calling Bush a liar or Kerry a fudgepacker or reposting articles to "prove" one point or another logic fails. Of the three people who responded my questions, none actually answered. When faced with a choice that requires an examination of their own decision making as opposed to that they theoretically despise, they fail to make the critical connections - to wit: They would pretty much do the same thing when faced with the same choice. That challenges their own image as self-rightgeous and being "correct". Thus, avoidance. The odd thing is, viewed critically, this election is about which patrician silver spoon scion of a well-to-do family who has benefitted from his family connections his whole life is a better leader. Oddly, they are both Yale graduates, both Bonezers, etc, etc, etc. Oddly, when you examine their potential policies, they are pretty much identical. Oddly, one used a trick out to exit the Guard, the other used a trick out to avoid more than four months of combat. Neither one has a true understanding of what it takes to be a regular American who pays taxes, pays bills, has health care issues, etc. So whats the arguing about. War? War is an existential state of humanity. Every day everyone enters and exits a state of conflict. In some cases it's the killing kind of conflict where soldiers kill people and break stuff. In others it's calling Bush an idiot or Kerry a fudgepacker. In other cases it's flipping the bird to the gal who just cut you off at an intersection. Conflict is conflict. War happens - get over it. Whole societies exist to enact war on each other - it's just the way it is. And with that, I will close my participation in this thread because I don't really care to continue it. It ain't worth it. So, I'm think of buying a '66 Luhrs sport boat for restoration. Any advice? ;) Make sure you get counter-rotating props. Too much prop torque could have you leaning to the left. |
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:33:16 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . ~~ snippage ~~ So, I'm think of buying a '66 Luhrs sport boat for restoration. Any advice? ;) Make sure you get counter-rotating props. Too much prop torque could have you leaning to the left. LOL!!!!! Or right for that matter. Later, Tom |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:13:35 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: So, I'm think of buying a '66 Luhrs sport boat for restoration. Any advice? ;) Later, Tom We owned a '68 28ft Luhrs sport fisherman with a single 318 Chrysler Crown. Was a great boat would plane at 10 knots but everything above the fiberglass hull is a sandwich of plywood and fiberglass. So I doubt there will be much in good shape above the hull but if you have the desire it is a great hull design. You will find 500lbs of lead in the bilge just ahead of the cabin helm....so if you think it is sitting a little nose heavy this is why. good luck, mark |
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:59:04 -0400, "rock_doctor"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:13:35 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: So, I'm think of buying a '66 Luhrs sport boat for restoration. Any advice? ;) Later, Tom We owned a '68 28ft Luhrs sport fisherman with a single 318 Chrysler Crown. Was a great boat would plane at 10 knots but everything above the fiberglass hull is a sandwich of plywood and fiberglass. So I doubt there will be much in good shape above the hull but if you have the desire it is a great hull design. You will find 500lbs of lead in the bilge just ahead of the cabin helm....so if you think it is sitting a little nose heavy this is why. Hey Mark... Thanks - I looked at it and there is a lot of work to do on the boat. The owner replaced the 318 with a 350 and it wasn't working properly. On a test run, the boat never got above 7 knots. The stringers were junk also - a lot of work to make this work. The cabin was pretty much toast and the wiring was suspect. I actually found that lead you spoke of when I pulled up the floor boards in the cabin. Took a pass. :) Thanks for the advice. Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ----------- "Angling may be said to be so like the mathematics that it can never be fully learnt..." Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653 |
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"NOYB" wrote in message k.net...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 1 Sep 2004 08:02:39 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On 31 Aug 2004 14:25:35 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Actually, you never answered the question. To refresh your memory: If you had the opportunity to keep your son out of the active combat military to avoid Vietnam by jumping ahead of others and joining the National Guard, would you? Later, Tom What to **** does THAT question have to do with ME???? Fritz said that I whined. I've never been asked the above question, and therefore have never offered an answer. Allow me to establish the thread: On 30 Aug 2004 07:16:06 -0700, (basskisser) wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. Jim posted this: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:38:32 GMT, "Jim" wrote: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...q=/ff/story/00 01/20040828/1349707631.htm extract DALLAS (AP) - Former Texas House Speaker Ben Barnes said he is ``more ashamed at myself than I've ever been'' because he helped President Bush and the sons of other wealthy families get into the Texas National Guard so they could avoid serving in Vietnam. I posted this: So if I were somebody who could have joined the National Guard to avoid combat status does that make me smart or stupid, brave or cowardly? You posted this: In the case of GWB, and other well to do people of Texas, in this case, it would make you privledged. What if it were your son and you could get him out of Vietnam this way? Be honest - would you do it? Later, Tom Which you never answered and I'm still curious what it will be. Check out the thread if you don't believe me. By the way, there is no reason to use harsh language - it's just a simple question. bassie's neurons misfire every now and again. What begins as swearing, quickly progresses to threats about snapping someone's neck or spitting in their face. Only when provoked. Sorry that you don't have the balls to stand up for YOURSELF. |
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