A note on the Bayliner 28 & 32 with command bridge. Certain year models,
I am not sure which would "nose dive" during high speed turns and bury
the bow. This brought the boat to an abrupt stop and tossed anyone on
the bridge into the water. The bow would surface, and the props dig in.
Away would go your Bayliner without a coxswain.

Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Wannacat wrote:
Hello,

We're shopping for a 28-32' cruiser and are really attracted to a
flybridge style. To our dismay, neither Sea Ray nor Chaparral make
cruiser of this type/size. We've seen only one boat with the right
design so far - Bayliner 288 (formerly 2858), but average quality of
its construction makes us wish to have more than one boat to choose
from.

Can anyone suggest other flybridge cruisers of this size? Any tips
will be greatly appreciated!

WC

Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote:

A note on the Bayliner 28 & 32 with command bridge. Certain year models,
I am not sure which would "nose dive" during high speed turns and bury
the bow. This brought the boat to an abrupt stop and tossed anyone on
the bridge into the water. The bow would surface, and the props dig in.
Away would go your Bayliner without a coxswain.

Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

Regards,

Capt. Frank


A design feature to be envied...



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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:49:52 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:

Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

============================================

Yes, true story but that was only half the fix as I recall. The other
half was to put a warning plaque on the flybridge about carrying
excessive numbers of people on the bridge. With too much weight up
high (maybe 4 people) the boat would capsize to the outside of a
tight turn.

Another nifty design feature from today's volume and pricing leader.

Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:49:52 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:

Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

============================================

Yes, true story but that was only half the fix as I recall. The other
half was to put a warning plaque on the flybridge about carrying
excessive numbers of people on the bridge. With too much weight up
high (maybe 4 people) the boat would capsize to the outside of a
tight turn.

Another nifty design feature from today's volume and pricing leader.



Hehehe. I love it. Bayliner; the Wal-Mart of boats.




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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:49:52 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:

Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

============================================

Yes, true story but that was only half the fix as I recall. The other
half was to put a warning plaque on the flybridge about carrying
excessive numbers of people on the bridge. With too much weight up
high (maybe 4 people) the boat would capsize to the outside of a
tight turn.

Another nifty design feature from today's volume and pricing leader.



Hehehe. I love it. Bayliner; the Wal-Mart of boats.

Actually, I believe Wal-Mart was selling Gen-Mar products in some test
markets.

Nevertheless, you're comparing a manufacturer to a retailer. Wal-Mart
provides the same things you buy in other stores, but for less money. Hey,
if you don't mind purchasing Yo-Zuri's, Penn SS's, and Sabiki's for 50% more
elsewhere, then have at it. I spend plenty at my local bait shop. However,
if I'm buying in bulk (Sabiki's, etc), I shop WalMart.

BTW--Sam's Choice bottled water is not only the cheapest and best-testing,
it freezes very well without exploding the bottle...which is very convenient
for icing the cooler.

That is true. The store with its own zip code, Wal-vania's Tampa store
on Dale Mabry Drive is selling smaller Sea Ray and Boston Whaler units.
I have taken note they ARE NOT selling Bay liners. Costco is selling
several brands of boats too.

How many Bayliners does it take to line a bay?

Is a Bayliner anything like a swimming pool liner?

Will both work underwater?

It is a good thing Bayliner doesn't make an inflatable. You would need
to buy stock in fix-a-flat.

feel free to add to the list! grin

CF

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Wayne.B wrote:


On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:49:52 GMT, "Capt. Frank Hopkins"
wrote:


Bayliner's "fix" for this problem was to put 500 pounds of ballast in
the stern. Make sure your boat is retrofitted before purchase.

============================================

Yes, true story but that was only half the fix as I recall. The other
half was to put a warning plaque on the flybridge about carrying
excessive numbers of people on the bridge. With too much weight up
high (maybe 4 people) the boat would capsize to the outside of a
tight turn.

Another nifty design feature from today's volume and pricing leader.



Hehehe. I love it. Bayliner; the Wal-Mart of boats.


Actually, I believe Wal-Mart was selling Gen-Mar products in some test
markets.

Nevertheless, you're comparing a manufacturer to a retailer. Wal-Mart
provides the same things you buy in other stores, but for less money. Hey,
if you don't mind purchasing Yo-Zuri's, Penn SS's, and Sabiki's for 50% more
elsewhere, then have at it. I spend plenty at my local bait shop. However,
if I'm buying in bulk (Sabiki's, etc), I shop WalMart.

BTW--Sam's Choice bottled water is not only the cheapest and best-testing,
it freezes very well without exploding the bottle...which is very convenient
for icing the cooler.

That is true. The store with its own zip code, Wal-vania's Tampa store
on Dale Mabry Drive is selling smaller Sea Ray and Boston Whaler units.
I have taken note they ARE NOT selling Bay liners. Costco is selling
several brands of boats too.

How many Bayliners does it take to line a bay?

Is a Bayliner anything like a swimming pool liner?

Will both work underwater?

It is a good thing Bayliner doesn't make an inflatable. You would need
to buy stock in fix-a-flat.

feel free to add to the list! grin

CF

Bayliner: the issue that always evokes
the ridiculous comments from people who are supposed to know better.

We can't help ourselves. EG

Bayliner: The only boat that comes standard with a free ski rope. And
printed instructions for attaching it to the bow cleat.

-W



"Gould 0738" wrote in message Bayliner: the issue that
always evokes
the ridiculous comments from people who are supposed to know better.

Of course they do Chuck. After all, aren't you supposed to laugh at a
clown

F

Gould 0738 wrote:
That is true. The store with its own zip code, Wal-vania's Tampa store
on Dale Mabry Drive is selling smaller Sea Ray and Boston Whaler units.
I have taken note they ARE NOT selling Bay liners. Costco is selling
several brands of boats too.

How many Bayliners does it take to line a bay?

Is a Bayliner anything like a swimming pool liner?

Will both work underwater?

It is a good thing Bayliner doesn't make an inflatable. You would need
to buy stock in fix-a-flat.

feel free to add to the list! grin

CF


Bayliner: the issue that always evokes
the ridiculous comments from people who are supposed to know better.