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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:
bb wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

Where are the Atheist Charities?

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:35:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:
bb wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

Where are the Atheist Charities?

Sir:

Apart from the gratuitous, irrelevant nature of your attack, it has always been
my understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) that your First Amendment
means not only freedom _of_ religion, but also freedom _from_ religion.

Are you unable to mount any more effective offence against your adversary than
this feeble one?

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch

Not a lawyer, barrister or solicitor
C of E

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.

Any areas where a lot of poor people are not working Bass?


Sanibel and the Captiva(s)

"W.T. Hatch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:35:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:
bb wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser)
wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I
was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the
most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

Where are the Atheist Charities?

Sir:

Apart from the gratuitous, irrelevant nature of your attack, it has always
been
my understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) that your First
Amendment
means not only freedom _of_ religion, but also freedom _from_ religion.

Are you unable to mount any more effective offence against your adversary
than
this feeble one?

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch

Not a lawyer, barrister or solicitor
C of E


Idiot! I ask a valid question. Many of these same people are always
knocking religion. Maybe you are one of those people? I ask the valid
question. If Atheism is so good, where is the good being done by them?

"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"W.T. Hatch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:35:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:
bb wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser)
wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I
was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the
most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

Where are the Atheist Charities?

Sir:

Apart from the gratuitous, irrelevant nature of your attack, it has always
been
my understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) that your First
Amendment
means not only freedom _of_ religion, but also freedom _from_ religion.

Are you unable to mount any more effective offence against your adversary
than
this feeble one?

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch

Not a lawyer, barrister or solicitor
C of E


Idiot! I ask a valid question. Many of these same people are always
knocking religion. Maybe you are one of those people? I ask the valid
question. If Atheism is so good, where is the good being done by them?

Do you really think that of all the volunteers, in all of the
charities, in all of the groups that offer assistance, in all of the
clubs, in all of the world, that none are atheists? Do you really
think that the only groups of people doing this sort of work are
christians??? Jeez, and you have the audacity to call others idiots.

"jim--" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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bb wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.

Any areas where a lot of poor people are not working Bass?

My god, you're stupid..... It sure gets tiring answering idiotic
questions from you, but one more ****ing time....

First, for your clarification, the area under discussion, Arcadia, if
home to mostly orange pickers. They are living well below poverty
levels. The ARE "poor working people" in it's purest form.

As for your idiotic question, the answer is yes.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:43:41 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"W.T. Hatch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:35:17 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
basskisser wrote:
bb wrote in message
...
On 19 Aug 2004 11:04:25 -0700, (basskisser)
wrote:

Capt. Bill

Yes. I understand that the bulk hit well south, but then again, I
was
watching news last night, and they were showing damage to fruit
picker's homes in Arcadia, which is inland AND well north of the
most
damaged areas.

St. Pete and Pinellas didn't get anything. Arcadia is NE of
Charlotte Harbor, where the storm came ashore. As the storm was
heading NE, Arcadia got slammed.

bb

That's a shame, there are a lot of poor working people in that area.


There are lots of "illegal" farm workers who were horribly impacted by
the hurricane, and who are without housing, food, or water, and were it
not for Catholic charities and a couple of similar groups, these folks
would be dying by the side of the road.

This is an amazing country. We have all sorts of work that native-born
Americans won't do, so we import tens of thousands of poor workers from
even poorer countries to do it for us. Then we treat those workers like
****.

Welcome to America.

As a society, we're no better than we treat the poorest and least able
among us.




--
Save America - Defeat Bush!

Where are the Atheist Charities?

Sir:

Apart from the gratuitous, irrelevant nature of your attack, it has always
been
my understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) that your First
Amendment
means not only freedom _of_ religion, but also freedom _from_ religion.

Are you unable to mount any more effective offence against your adversary
than
this feeble one?

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch

Not a lawyer, barrister or solicitor
C of E


Idiot! I ask a valid question. Many of these same people are always
knocking religion. Maybe you are one of those people? I ask the valid
question. If Atheism is so good, where is the good being done by them?

Sir:

I have tried on several occasions to engage in a civil dialogue with you. Each
time I have been met ultimately with derision and personal insult. My comment
to you, while it may have been seen as harsh, addressed your _argument_, not
your person.

I have no idea of your religious convictions, nor you of mine (I believe my
somewhat subtle clue was wasted on you). But your initial query, to which I
responded, was irrelevant and, I believe, intended to further the acrimonious,
toxic climate in this forum.

There is ample room for differences of opinion. I believe it is possible for
men of good will to discuss and explore those differences with civility and good
will.

From my lengthy observation of you here, I am concluding that you are possessed
of neither, and are reduced to insult as your sole "contribution" to rec.boats.

I am not in the habit of kill-filing those whose posts I find unpleasant--but I
do find yours of consistently low worth, and find little reason to read them for
other than slight entertainment value.

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:43:41 GMT, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
Idiot! I ask a valid question. Many of these same people are always
knocking religion. Maybe you are one of those people? I ask the valid
question. If Atheism is so good, where is the good being done by them?

Bill,

There are many non religious trust funds set up by Philanthropist, some by
Christians, some by Jews, some by Muslims, some by agnostics, and some by
atheists. One's desire to help others is not limited to Christians or to
the religious. Your frustration at those who to like to demean your
religious beliefs is understandable, but don't let yourself stoop to their
level. I have noticed there are some in here like to group all religious
Christians into the same category as a person who would kill a doctor who
performs abortions. They are not worth your effort to respond. I
personally believe that God has a special place in hell for some of the TV
ministers (i.e. Robert Tilton) who profess to be Christians but whose
actions do not follow Jesus' teachings.

First, for your clarification, the area under discussion, Arcadia, if
home to mostly orange pickers. They are living well below poverty
levels.

There are more cowboys and prison guards in Arcadia than orange pickers.
They may still be below the poverty level tho.