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Harry Krause August 14th 04 05:25 PM

Five footers...on the Bay?
 
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jim-- August 14th 04 05:36 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the Bay has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




Harry Krause August 14th 04 05:45 PM

jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the Bay has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.
There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.

Dennis, at best, and I mean at best, you may have been the owner of a
boat that rarely left the dock, according to your own posts. I suspect
if you were out in the ocean or even this Bay on a rough day, you'd
brownstain your shorts.

Pethaps the next time you have a really nasty storm on Lake Erie, you
and your wife should go out in it for some fun. Be sure to let the rest
of us know how the two of you do.

Got a real name, Dennis?
Got an occupation, Dennis?
Got a college degree, Dennis?
Got a working brain, Dennis?

Didn't think so.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

JAXAshby August 14th 04 06:01 PM

Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake?


the Chesa is shallow, so five footers -- if they might develop, and the weather
reporters have not been exagerating a mite -- would be short, steep and
breaking. could be a handful for most boats.



JAXAshby August 14th 04 06:02 PM

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?


hoary has not even *seen* 1-2 footers.

jim-- August 14th 04 06:03 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why
are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the Bay
has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty
although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.


As is Lake Erie and Sandusky Bay. 5 footers on either of them are not
uncommon.


There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.


What sort of storm surge is expected on the Bay? I do not recall any talk
about storm surges on the Chesapeake Bay resulting from Charley. Got a
link?



JAXAshby August 14th 04 06:04 PM

five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep


hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile


can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

Comcast News August 14th 04 08:50 PM

Harry,

I know you don't know a lot about boating, but 2' ft waves, building to 5
ft. waves is in the main body, Only a fool would assume the narrow shallow
creeks and inlets would experience the same waves that the main body of the
wave. If you look at the forecast for the inlets, you would see they are
expect 2' to 3' waves.

The forecast for Baltimore is "NE WIND INCREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT WITH GUSTS
UP TO 40 KT. WAVES 2 TO 3 FT. A CHANCE OF TSTMS THROUGH THE NIGHT. RAIN AND
TSTMS TAPERING OFF LATE.







"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why

are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the Bay

has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty

although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.
There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.

Dennis, at best, and I mean at best, you may have been the owner of a
boat that rarely left the dock, according to your own posts. I suspect
if you were out in the ocean or even this Bay on a rough day, you'd
brownstain your shorts.

Pethaps the next time you have a really nasty storm on Lake Erie, you
and your wife should go out in it for some fun. Be sure to let the rest
of us know how the two of you do.

Got a real name, Dennis?
Got an occupation, Dennis?
Got a college degree, Dennis?
Got a working brain, Dennis?

Didn't think so.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002




jim-- August 14th 04 08:53 PM


"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:t2uTc.8313$mD.1821@attbi_s02...
Harry,

I know you don't know a lot about boating, but 2' ft waves, building to 5
ft. waves is in the main body, Only a fool would assume the narrow
shallow
creeks and inlets would experience the same waves that the main body of
the
wave. If you look at the forecast for the inlets, you would see they are
expect 2' to 3' waves.

The forecast for Baltimore is "NE WIND INCREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT WITH
GUSTS
UP TO 40 KT. WAVES 2 TO 3 FT. A CHANCE OF TSTMS THROUGH THE NIGHT. RAIN
AND
TSTMS TAPERING OFF LATE.


Too bad it will be dark when it happens. I bet Krause never saw such
violent seas. He-he-he.



Comcast News August 14th 04 08:58 PM

jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he would not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.


"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:t2uTc.8313$mD.1821@attbi_s02...
Harry,

I know you don't know a lot about boating, but 2' ft waves, building to

5
ft. waves is in the main body, Only a fool would assume the narrow
shallow
creeks and inlets would experience the same waves that the main body of
the
wave. If you look at the forecast for the inlets, you would see they

are
expect 2' to 3' waves.

The forecast for Baltimore is "NE WIND INCREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT WITH
GUSTS
UP TO 40 KT. WAVES 2 TO 3 FT. A CHANCE OF TSTMS THROUGH THE NIGHT. RAIN
AND
TSTMS TAPERING OFF LATE.


Too bad it will be dark when it happens. I bet Krause never saw such
violent seas. He-he-he.





jim-- August 14th 04 09:01 PM


"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives. LOL!



Harry Krause August 14th 04 09:12 PM

jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives. LOL!



You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Comcast News August 14th 04 09:22 PM

"Look at me, Look at me"...... grin

Harry was it the Doctor Doctor who took the pictures of your yard or was it
the Yale Graduate?

PS here is a picture of my yard.

http://doors.stanford.edu/~sr/washin...hite-house.jpg

See how easy it easy. Harry, you are such a putz.
..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down

saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he

would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous

storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives.

LOL!


You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002




Comcast News August 14th 04 09:23 PM



"Look at me, Look at me"...... grin

Harry was it the Doctor Doctor who took the pictures of your yard or was it
the Yale Graduate?

PS here is a picture of my yard.

http://doors.stanford.edu/~sr/washin...hite-house.jpg

See how easy it easy. Harry, you are such a putz.

jim-- August 14th 04 09:27 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives. LOL!



You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


So? We have plenty of similar cliffs along the perimeter of the Great Lakes
and their islands.

Unless their houses are now to/near the edges of those cliffs (because of
erosion) then there is nothing to worry about.

All bodies of water see storms. All land along those bodies of water erodes
over the years. Been so since the beginning of time.

So what is your point Krause? To deflect the fact that you are afraid of 5
foot waves and anticipate a tremendous storm surge from this tropical storm?
He-he-he...me thinks so.

Yawn



Harry Krause August 14th 04 09:28 PM

jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives. LOL!



You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


So? We have plenty of similar cliffs along the perimeter of the Great Lakes
and their islands.

Unless their houses are now to/near the edges of those cliffs (because of
erosion) then there is nothing to worry about.



Some of them are a couple of feet away from where the edge is now...and
over the years, some of them have fallen as the cliffs collapsed. So,
there is plenty to worry about...



All bodies of water see storms. All land along those bodies of water erodes
over the years. Been so since the beginning of time.


Not much of a geology student, eh? I suppose that's because you never
took a geology course because you never attended college.

You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Comcast News August 14th 04 09:35 PM

If someone's house is in danger of falling into the bay, it is time to move
the house. There are very few things I am sure of, but the bay will see 2
to 5 ft. waves many times in the near future.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down

saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he

would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous

storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives.

LOL!


You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed

only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit

on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into

the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


So? We have plenty of similar cliffs along the perimeter of the Great

Lakes
and their islands.

Unless their houses are now to/near the edges of those cliffs (because

of
erosion) then there is nothing to worry about.



Some of them are a couple of feet away from where the edge is now...and
over the years, some of them have fallen as the cliffs collapsed. So,
there is plenty to worry about...



All bodies of water see storms. All land along those bodies of water

erodes
over the years. Been so since the beginning of time.


Not much of a geology student, eh? I suppose that's because you never
took a geology course because you never attended college.

You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002




jim-- August 14th 04 09:52 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:k9uTc.255379$%_6.15101@attbi_s01...
jim--,
He reminds me of a little kid with ADD who is jumping up and down
saying
"look at me" "look at me", oh won't someone pay me some attention.

I loved his attempt at showing concern about NYOB, when he said he
would
not
push him out of the way if I bus was going to hit him.



I bet he is sandbagging his house in anticipation of the tremendous
storm
surge he is expecting on the Bay from this tropical storm.

As you know, much of the beach area is at sea level where he lives.
LOL!


You obviously never saw the photos of our yard that I posted about two
years ago. While there are many areas along the Bay that are indeed only
a couple of feet higher than the water reaches at high tide, we're on
higher, safer ground, with no erosion problem.

Never been to the Bay, eh, dumfoch? Even some of those on higher ground
are nervous every time there is a significant storm. Their houses sit on
cliffs that are subject to erosion and eventually will collapse into the
Bay. They're not on land I'd ever buy, but it does provide a
spectacular view while it lasts.

Look up Calvert Cliffs. Wait..you're not that clever. He

http://www.fossilguy.com/sites/calvert/


There are houses on cliffs adjacent to these where the geology is
precisely the same.


So? We have plenty of similar cliffs along the perimeter of the Great
Lakes
and their islands.

Unless their houses are now to/near the edges of those cliffs (because of
erosion) then there is nothing to worry about.



Some of them are a couple of feet away from where the edge is now...and
over the years, some of them have fallen as the cliffs collapsed. So,
there is plenty to worry about...



So what is so unusual about that? Are you saying that situation is unique
to your cliffs?



All bodies of water see storms. All land along those bodies of water
erodes
over the years. Been so since the beginning of time.


Not much of a geology student, eh? I suppose that's because you never
took a geology course because you never attended college.



So you disagree with my statements?



You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.



Joseph Stachyra August 14th 04 09:56 PM

From Oswego New York, 3 to 5 foot waves are common on lake Ontario, and you
don't need the a hurricane to make them. Yes, we have fished many times in
3 to 4 foot waves and we start to get off the lake when they hit 5 foot....
but that's us in a 23 foot boat.

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:t2uTc.8313$mD.1821@attbi_s02...
Harry,

I know you don't know a lot about boating, but 2' ft waves, building to 5
ft. waves is in the main body, Only a fool would assume the narrow

shallow
creeks and inlets would experience the same waves that the main body of

the
wave. If you look at the forecast for the inlets, you would see they are
expect 2' to 3' waves.

The forecast for Baltimore is "NE WIND INCREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT WITH

GUSTS
UP TO 40 KT. WAVES 2 TO 3 FT. A CHANCE OF TSTMS THROUGH THE NIGHT. RAIN

AND
TSTMS TAPERING OFF LATE.







"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35

to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to

5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay

would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon.

Why
are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the

Bay
has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty

although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.
There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.

Dennis, at best, and I mean at best, you may have been the owner of a
boat that rarely left the dock, according to your own posts. I suspect
if you were out in the ocean or even this Bay on a rough day, you'd
brownstain your shorts.

Pethaps the next time you have a really nasty storm on Lake Erie, you
and your wife should go out in it for some fun. Be sure to let the rest
of us know how the two of you do.

Got a real name, Dennis?
Got an occupation, Dennis?
Got a college degree, Dennis?
Got a working brain, Dennis?

Didn't think so.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002






Harry Krause August 14th 04 10:00 PM

jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?




--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jim-- August 14th 04 10:04 PM


"Joseph Stachyra" wrote in message
...
From Oswego New York, 3 to 5 foot waves are common on lake Ontario, and
you
don't need the a hurricane to make them. Yes, we have fished many times
in
3 to 4 foot waves and we start to get off the lake when they hit 5
foot....
but that's us in a 23 foot boat.


I agree. In fact 5-7 footers on Lake Erie (a shallow lake) have been common
this spring/summer.

Most boat owners have been in 5-7 footers. I know I have. Hell, some
storms result in 8-12 footers, sometimes much much higher.

Poor Harry has never even seen 5 footers though as he claims it would be a
sight to see for him.

He-he-he. Maybe he needs to get out on the water for the first time.



Harry Krause August 14th 04 10:06 PM

Joseph Stachyra wrote:

From Oswego New York, 3 to 5 foot waves are common on lake Ontario, and you
don't need the a hurricane to make them. Yes, we have fished many times in
3 to 4 foot waves and we start to get off the lake when they hit 5 foot....
but that's us in a 23 foot boat.


Let's try to put this in perspective. When we lived in Florida, five
foot ocean waves were common. We live adjacent to Chesapeake Bay now,
and five foot waves are not common. We normally see ones to twos in our
area. It isn't the waves per se that trouble me today, because I am not
out on the water and won't be until the weather calms. What concerns me
is the storm surge. It could prove troublesome to those on the
lower-lying areas of the Bay, some of which are near us. We have many
property owners and towns and marinas barely above sea level, and a
substantial surge will make a mess. We normally do NOT have much of a
surge here, absent a major storm.

I guess this no longer is a newsgroup where anything abstract can be
discussed without the usual pack of assholes (I'm not putting you in
this group, Joe) immediately jumping on and seeing if they can destroy
the discussion.




"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

jim-- August 14th 04 10:07 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.



jim-- August 14th 04 10:08 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?




BTW: How does it feel to know I am always in your mind and eating away at
you? He-he-he.



Harry Krause August 14th 04 10:09 PM

jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.


Not at all. But you come across as an ignorant, uneducated dolt,
incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning. And since you refuse to
answer any questions about your life, your education, your work, one
might safely conclude you are an uneducated asshole.

Go ahead...post something that demonstates your thinking ability,
Dennis. Something original. Anything.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Harry Krause August 14th 04 10:09 PM

jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?




BTW: How does it feel to know I am always in your mind and eating away at
you? He-he-he.


You're delusional.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Comcast News August 14th 04 10:53 PM

Joseph,
I have been on small lakes in a storm with 20 knot winds, that had 3 to 5
ft. waves, but they scare the dickens out of our boy Harry. On the other
hand, I would love to see a body of water, 2 to 3 ft. deep making waves 3 to
5ft deep. I am not sure, but I don't think it is physically possible.


"Joseph Stachyra" wrote in message
...
From Oswego New York, 3 to 5 foot waves are common on lake Ontario, and

you
don't need the a hurricane to make them. Yes, we have fished many times

in
3 to 4 foot waves and we start to get off the lake when they hit 5

foot....
but that's us in a 23 foot boat.

"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:t2uTc.8313$mD.1821@attbi_s02...
Harry,

I know you don't know a lot about boating, but 2' ft waves, building to

5
ft. waves is in the main body, Only a fool would assume the narrow

shallow
creeks and inlets would experience the same waves that the main body of

the
wave. If you look at the forecast for the inlets, you would see they

are
expect 2' to 3' waves.

The forecast for Baltimore is "NE WIND INCREASING TO 25 TO 30 KT WITH

GUSTS
UP TO 40 KT. WAVES 2 TO 3 FT. A CHANCE OF TSTMS THROUGH THE NIGHT. RAIN

AND
TSTMS TAPERING OFF LATE.







"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N

35
to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building

to
5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay

would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon.

Why
are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the

Bay
has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty

although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very

wide.
There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea

level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge

on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile

to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.

Dennis, at best, and I mean at best, you may have been the owner of a
boat that rarely left the dock, according to your own posts. I suspect
if you were out in the ocean or even this Bay on a rough day, you'd
brownstain your shorts.

Pethaps the next time you have a really nasty storm on Lake Erie, you
and your wife should go out in it for some fun. Be sure to let the

rest
of us know how the two of you do.

Got a real name, Dennis?
Got an occupation, Dennis?
Got a college degree, Dennis?
Got a working brain, Dennis?

Didn't think so.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably

in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool

me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002








Comcast News August 14th 04 10:57 PM

jim--,
Whenever Harry is wrong, his MO is to make insults like a kid on the
playground.

I hope you don't have any 2 - 5 ft. waves where you boat, gosh almighty,
what would you do. ; )




"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your

sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.


I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that

Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.





Comcast News August 14th 04 10:59 PM

Harry,
When you post anything about your life, it is always proven to be a figment
of your imagination. Tell us again about your Lobster Boat, your doctor
doctor wife (you know the social worker), and the 3 times you sailed around
the horn.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your

sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.

I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that,

Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that

Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.


Not at all. But you come across as an ignorant, uneducated dolt,
incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning. And since you refuse to
answer any questions about your life, your education, your work, one
might safely conclude you are an uneducated asshole.

Go ahead...post something that demonstates your thinking ability,
Dennis. Something original. Anything.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002




Comcast News August 14th 04 11:02 PM

Harry,

Read 99% of your posts, and you contribute nothing to the NG, except
personal insults.

Remember, you harvest what you sow, and when someone lives in a glass house,
one should not throw stones. ; )


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Joseph Stachyra wrote:

From Oswego New York, 3 to 5 foot waves are common on lake Ontario, and

you
don't need the a hurricane to make them. Yes, we have fished many

times in
3 to 4 foot waves and we start to get off the lake when they hit 5

foot....
but that's us in a 23 foot boat.


Let's try to put this in perspective. When we lived in Florida, five
foot ocean waves were common. We live adjacent to Chesapeake Bay now,
and five foot waves are not common. We normally see ones to twos in our
area. It isn't the waves per se that trouble me today, because I am not
out on the water and won't be until the weather calms. What concerns me
is the storm surge. It could prove troublesome to those on the
lower-lying areas of the Bay, some of which are near us. We have many
property owners and towns and marinas barely above sea level, and a
substantial surge will make a mess. We normally do NOT have much of a
surge here, absent a major storm.

I guess this no longer is a newsgroup where anything abstract can be
discussed without the usual pack of assholes (I'm not putting you in
this group, Joe) immediately jumping on and seeing if they can destroy
the discussion.




"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002




Comcast News August 14th 04 11:07 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I guess this no longer is a newsgroup where anything abstract can be
discussed without the usual pack of assholes (I'm not putting you in
this group, Joe) immediately jumping on and seeing if they can destroy
the discussion.


Is it possible you telling someone you would like to see a bus hit them, or
that you would shot someone with your gun to keep them away from you, could
possible have any influence as to how you are treated in this NG?






Anonymous Poster August 14th 04 11:09 PM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:03:56 -0400 "jim--" wrote..


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35 to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to 5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why
are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the Bay
has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty
although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.


As is Lake Erie and Sandusky Bay. 5 footers on either of them are not
uncommon.



There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.


What sort of storm surge is expected on the Bay? I do not recall any talk
about storm surges on the Chesapeake Bay resulting from Charley. Got a
link?



I finally figured you out Jim. Krause pays to to post. That way, his posts are
discussed more widely than they might be. That's it isn't it? You and your sock
puppets are foils for krause.

How much are you paid? Is it enough to life off of? Enquiring minds want to know.

--
Posted by usenet4all.com


JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:18 AM

only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.




JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:21 AM

foot ocean waves were common. We live adjacent to Chesapeake Bay now,
and five foot waves are not common


hoary, don't worry about it. the chesa is too shallow to support five foot
waves that aren't breaking, and breaking waves don't make much distance.

JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:24 AM

I have been on small lakes in a storm with 20 knot winds, that had 3 to 5
ft. waves,


no you haven't. 20 knots winds take a long time and long fetch to get to be 3
to 5 foot waves, and even then you need water most usually deeper than is found
in a "small lake".



JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:24 AM

On the other
hand, I would love to see a body of water, 2 to 3 ft. deep making waves 3 to
5ft deep. I am not sure, but I don't think it is physically possible.


it isn't possible.

Harry Krause August 15th 04 12:29 AM

JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.






Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Harry Krause August 15th 04 12:31 AM

JAXAshby wrote:

foot ocean waves were common. We live adjacent to Chesapeake Bay now,
and five foot waves are not common


hoary, don't worry about it. the chesa is too shallow to support five foot
waves that aren't breaking, and breaking waves don't make much distance.


Last year during the hurricane, some Bay towns had four foot waves
breaking on their streets. They moved enough to remove houses from their
foundations.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:36 AM

yuk

Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002









JAXAshby August 15th 04 12:39 AM

Last year during the hurricane, some Bay towns had four foot waves
breaking on their streets.


no they didn't. they four feet of water on their streets, but they most
certainly did not have foot waves on their streets. To have four foot waves
they would need water about 40 feet deep, give or take a bit depending on how
steep the waves were.

They moved enough to remove houses from their
foundations.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002










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