What I can't figure out is how does the discussion about a weather forecast
have anything to do with thinking or reasoning. The only thing that showed
a lack of thinking or reasoning is when he said he would get 5' waves in 2 -
3' of water.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.

It was small compared to the Great Lakes, but the lake had a fetch of a few
miles.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have been on small lakes in a storm with 20 knot winds, that had 3 to 5
ft. waves,

no you haven't. 20 knots winds take a long time and long fetch to get to
be 3
to 5 foot waves, and even then you need water most usually deeper than is
found
in a "small lake".

Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Harry tell us about the 4' waves breaking through the streets of Baltimore.
There might have been a storm surge that flooded part of the town in 4' of
water, you might have had waves breaking at the shore line that were 4'
high, but there were no breaking waves running through the streets.

You have lost your ability to think or reason, abstractly or otherwise.


"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:2GzTc.124281$8_6.41293@attbi_s04...
Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

hoary ain't normal.

What I can't figure out is how does the discussion about a weather forecast
have anything to do with thinking or reasoning. The only thing that showed
a lack of thinking or reasoning is when he said he would get 5' waves in 2 -
3' of water.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.

a "few miles" ain't nuthin in the context of five foot waves in 20 knot winds.
nuthin.

zero. zip. nada. squat.


It was small compared to the Great Lakes, but the lake had a fetch of a few
miles.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have been on small lakes in a storm with 20 knot winds, that had 3 to 5
ft. waves,

no you haven't. 20 knots winds take a long time and long fetch to get to
be 3
to 5 foot waves, and even then you need water most usually deeper than is
found
in a "small lake".

THAT is incredibly interesting. Thanks for sharing with us.

From:
Date: 8/14/2004 10:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: een automatically sent by Micromus

"Anonymous Poster" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 13:03:56 -0400 "jim--" wrote..


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
The latest forecast for Chesapeake Bay:

Tonight
NE wind increasing to 25 to 30 kt with gusts up to 40 kt...then N 35
to
40 kt with gusts up to 50 kt after midnight. Waves 2 ft...building to
5
ft after midnight. Widespread heavy rain and scattered tstms in the
evening tapering to scattered showers overnight.


Gusts up to 50 mph? On the Bay...

Too bad it'll be dark...watching five footers or more on the Bay would
be a sight to see.






Really? 5 footers in Sandusky Bay off Lake Erie are not uncommon. Why
are
you so excited about 5 footers in the Chesapeake? I would guess the
Bay
has
some pretty nasty seas at times...5 footers are certainly not nasty
although
the winds forecasted certainly are.

Have you ever been out in anything other than 1-2 footers Harry?




The Bay is relatively shallow, Dennis, and where we are, not very wide.

As is Lake Erie and Sandusky Bay. 5 footers on either of them are not
uncommon.


There are significant portions of the shoreline barely above sea level.
With any kind of wind, five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep out a half mile to
nearly a mile in some places leads to an interesting visual.

What sort of storm surge is expected on the Bay? I do not recall any talk
about storm surges on the Chesapeake Bay resulting from Charley. Got a
link?


I finally figured you out Jim. Krause pays to to post.


Yes, you got me. Krause pays *to to post*.

He-he-he. Another Krause sock puppet bites the dust.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your
sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.

I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that, Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?




BTW: How does it feel to know I am always in your mind and eating away
at
you? He-he-he.


You're delusional.


Then why the need to reply. LMAO!!!

jim--
He is obsessed with you and Bush. I guess he is upset when someone is
successful, and he has nothing to be proud of.

"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your
sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.

I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that,
Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your
ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?




BTW: How does it feel to know I am always in your mind and eating away
at
you? He-he-he.


You're delusional.


Then why the need to reply. LMAO!!!

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 21:59:46 GMT "Comcast News" wrote..

Harry,
When you post anything about your life, it is always proven to be a figment
of your imagination. Tell us again about your Lobster Boat, your doctor
doctor wife (you know the social worker), and the 3 times you sailed around
the horn.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your
sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.

I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that,
Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that
Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.

Not at all. But you come across as an ignorant, uneducated dolt,
incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning. And since you refuse to
answer any questions about your life, your education, your work, one
might safely conclude you are an uneducated asshole.

Go ahead...post something that demonstates your thinking ability,
Dennis. Something original. Anything.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002


Looks to me like you wouldnt have an existence at all if it not for krause
because 99.99% of your posts here are nothing more than cheapshots aimed in his
direction. And you aren't the only one like that in this newsgroup. Some of you
need to find yourselfs a life because based upon what you do in here you ain't
got one.

You seem kind of pathetic to me and I bet to others too.

--
Posted by usenet4all.com

billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get 4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30 foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

thanks anus moose @ all invalid for your insightful contribution. now wipe and
clean up the toilet after yourself.

(Anonymous Poster)
Date: 8/15/2004 7:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 21:59:46 GMT "Comcast News" wrote..

Harry,
When you post anything about your life, it is always proven to be a figment
of your imagination. Tell us again about your Lobster Boat, your doctor
doctor wife (you know the social worker), and the 3 times you sailed around
the horn.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jim-- wrote:




You're not very bright, Bennis. Or whatever your name is today.



Whatever you say Harry Krause, Harry Hope (I forgot the rest of your
sock
puppet names) or whatever your name is today.

You are just too easy Krause.

I suppose it makes you feel better to repeat yourself like that,
Dennis,
but the fact remands that you are about as dumb as a post. Your ability
to comprehend is limited, and you simply aren't worth much effort when
an explanation is needed. What grade of school were you able to
complete? Did you get through high school? Were you the subject of
social promotion?


The childish insults have begun in earnest, signifying the point that
Harry
has lost this discussion...as usual.

Not at all. But you come across as an ignorant, uneducated dolt,
incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning. And since you refuse to
answer any questions about your life, your education, your work, one
might safely conclude you are an uneducated asshole.

Go ahead...post something that demonstates your thinking ability,
Dennis. Something original. Anything.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002


Looks to me like you wouldnt have an existence at all if it not for krause
because 99.99% of your posts here are nothing more than cheapshots aimed in
his
direction. And you aren't the only one like that in this newsgroup. Some of
you
need to find yourselfs a life because based upon what you do in here you
ain't
got one.

You seem kind of pathetic to me and I bet to others too.

--
Posted by usenet4all.com

Harry,
Don't you hate having to use a sock puppet to respond to me. It would be so
much easier if you had not said you had me filtered. Obviously, my barbs
are getting under your skin. If my comments are cheap shots, what are
yours?



Looks to me like you wouldnt have an existence at all if it not for krause
because 99.99% of your posts here are nothing more than cheapshots aimed
in his
direction. And you aren't the only one like that in this newsgroup. Some
of you
need to find yourselfs a life because based upon what you do in here you
ain't
got one.

You seem kind of pathetic to me and I bet to others too.

--
Posted by usenet4all.com

True, but it will be nothing but a weak tropical storm by the time it get to
his area. No storm surge from it Bill.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

I have been looking for information on the devastation in the Bay area, the
storm surge wiping out downtown Baltimore, 5' waves funning through the
streets of Annapolis, a lobster boat being tossed about, homes falling into
the bay, or even a boat or two with scuff marks, whatever. Nothing, nada.
It must be a right wing conspiracy.


"jim--" wrote in message
...
True, but it will be nothing but a weak tropical storm by the time it get
to
his area. No storm surge from it Bill.


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low
pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

Small Craft Advisory
This Afternoon
W winds 15 to 20 kt...becoming S around 10 kt. Seas 4 to 5 ft


Report from Cape may

Boated in both places....2 weeks ago on Erie..with 13-15 mph winds out of
the NE........6-8 ft with 10 ft out of the break wall

Upper Chessy.........always flat - 2 ft .......the further south we go the
higher the waves.depending on wind

hey, ah, dood. Cape May ain't on the Chesapeake. It really isn't. I know. I
have been to Cape May and it really isn't on the Chesapeake. Really. I am
sure, positive, almost.

From: "daytona"
Date: 8/15/2004 10:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: dDKTc.128441$8_6.122538@attbi_s04

Small Craft Advisory
This Afternoon
W winds 15 to 20 kt...becoming S around 10 kt. Seas 4 to 5 ft


Report from Cape may

Boated in both places....2 weeks ago on Erie..with 13-15 mph winds out of
the NE........6-8 ft with 10 ft out of the break wall

Upper Chessy.........always flat - 2 ft .......the further south we go the
higher the waves.depending on wind

Anyone caught in a thunderstorm on the bay has probably been in 5-6 footers,
or
worse.

not from a thunderstorm they haven't. t-storms don't last long enough to make
5 foot let alone 6 foot waves.

Unless, one is telling the story in a bar later.

correct.....my mistake.......taken all the data of NOAA.....corn fused me

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 02:14:22 GMT "Comcast News" wrote..

Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002


As previously posted to Jim, there are several of you in this newsgroup who
exist only because of Krause. Without Krause 99.999% of what you post here
would not be posted. You need to get yourself a life of some sort.

Sorry, not Krause. The only thing I admire about him is his ability to play
Pavlov here. He posts something and you Jim and three or four others likke you
start salivating. Whose sock puppet are you?


--
Posted by usenet4all.com

"Anonymous Poster" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 02:14:22 GMT "Comcast News" wrote..

Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002


As previously posted to Jim, there are several of you in this newsgroup
who
exist only because of Krause. Without Krause 99.999% of what you post here
would not be posted. You need to get yourself a life of some sort.

Sorry, not Krause. The only thing I admire about him is his ability to
play
Pavlov here. He posts something and you Jim and three or four others
likke you
start salivating. Whose sock puppet are you?


--
Posted by usenet4all.com


You forgot to add "eh" and "fella" to your post this time. lol

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get 3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

jim--,
No matter how hard Harry tries to change his writing style, it still come
through. If Harry wasn't such a vicious lil *******, I would feel terrible
playing with his mind this way.


"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Anonymous Poster" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 02:14:22 GMT "Comcast News" wrote..

Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or
activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably
in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool
me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002


As previously posted to Jim, there are several of you in this newsgroup
who
exist only because of Krause. Without Krause 99.999% of what you post
here
would not be posted. You need to get yourself a life of some sort.

Sorry, not Krause. The only thing I admire about him is his ability to
play
Pavlov here. He posts something and you Jim and three or four others
likke you
start salivating. Whose sock puppet are you?


--
Posted by usenet4all.com


You forgot to add "eh" and "fella" to your post this time. lol

It also reminds me of the time Harry created a fictious person to log on and
talk about his Lobster Boat, what he didn't know is that his IP remained the
same. Now he has found out usenet4all I am sure his sock puppet will ask
him if he is married to that wonderful doctor who does 90% of her work pro
bono, and who also just got her PHD.



"Comcast News" wrote in message
news:41NTc.315265$XM6.154877@attbi_s53...
jim--,
No matter how hard Harry tries to change his writing style, it still come
through. If Harry wasn't such a vicious lil *******, I would feel
terrible
playing with his mind this way.


"jim--" wrote in message
...

"Anonymous Poster" wrote in
message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 02:14:22 GMT "Comcast News"
wrote..

Poor Harry, forced to begging for attention in rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JAXAshby wrote:
only hoary would differeniate between "thinking" and "reasoning".

... incapable of abstract thinking or reasoning.





Thinking is thought, cogitation, meditation, mental action or
activity,
while reasoning is the process by which one judgement is deduced
from
another or others which are given. One can think abstractly or
reason
abstractly, separately or simultaneously. One can also think or
reason
without involving the abstract, as it were.

How's your narrative thinking? Better than your abstract thinking?





--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably
in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool
me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn.,
Sept.
17, 2002


As previously posted to Jim, there are several of you in this
newsgroup
who
exist only because of Krause. Without Krause 99.999% of what you post
here
would not be posted. You need to get yourself a life of some sort.

Sorry, not Krause. The only thing I admire about him is his ability to
play
Pavlov here. He posts something and you Jim and three or four others
likke you
start salivating. Whose sock puppet are you?


--
Posted by usenet4all.com


You forgot to add "eh" and "fella" to your post this time. lol

ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all that
far.

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get 3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or 30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

JAXAshby wrote:
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all that
far.


Exactly how far can waves travel, JaxAss? Be precise. List all
possibilities of waves, all influences on their height and type, and the
maximum distance you personally have measured their travel.

You ought to spend your time more wisely. Buy yourself a bathing suit
that fits...and a face mask. If you do, you might find one of the
righties here will date you.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.

Depends on the swells hitting land. Mavericks break is a reef break and
is
45' deep on a calm day. We have seen 60' waves during the Quicksilver
surf
contests. And we get 4-5' surf in less than 9' water all the time. Yolu
need to come to the not so Pacific Ocean West Coast and watch surfing, or
fish. We normally fish 5' or less swells, but fish mornings as we get
3-4'
wind chop on top of the swells after noon.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
billie, one can not get 4 foot waves in 3 foot deep water. one can't
get
4
foot waves even in 9 foot deep water. or even 20 foot deep water. or
30
foot
deep water.

it don't make a rip what the storm surge is or is not.

There will be a storm surge. Hurricanes are low pressure cells. When
I
went through Betsy in Biloxi in 1965, we had about a 9' surge. And
we
were
75 miles from the eye. They will get both a surge from the low
pressure,
and from the wind piling up the water. Same reason that Bengladesh
has
such
terrible floods. The prevailing winds blow the water in to land.
Bill

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
five foot waves riding on top of a storm surge on
top of water that may only be three to four feet deep

hoary, five foot waves can NOT exist in three to four foot deep
water
without
breaking, therefore

out a half mile to
nearly a mile

can not happen.

nice try, hoary.

Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, Bay waters were pushed by tides, wide
and surge five city blocks up into the town of Chesapeake Beach. There
were four foot waves breaking over several parking lots and part of the
main street. Several of the houses blocks uphill from the Bay had high
water marks on them shingles four to five feet off the ground.

I suspect dockside boaters like Dennis and would stain their shorts if
they ever had to run one of our rougher Atlantic Ocean inlets. I've seen
lake boaters like him look at what was involved and turn the helm over
to someone who had some idea of what to do.

I don't know what JaxAss is trying to prove, other than being
argumentative. He's got a dippy little sailbote that doesn't look as if
it could safely cross Long Island Sound.


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious
storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, ..

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole. We are talking about a storm
with 40 mph winds...a storm that was once a hurricane and a tropical storm.
You, on the other hand, are talking about storm surges and *frightening* 5
foot waves.

Get away from the computer once in a while to see what five footers
are...not scary at all.

Asshole.

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

Surf is a wave.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, bill, "surf" means **breaking** waves, waves that don't travel all
that
far.



I agree completely. Surf is a wave. Further, it is patently obvious that
a number of those who have ocmmented here haven't a frippin' clue as to
what happens or may happen in an ocean coastal area during a serious
storm.

Last year, during the hurricane, ..

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole. We are talking about a storm
with 40 mph winds...a storm that was once a hurricane and a tropical storm.
You, on the other hand, are talking about storm surges and *frightening* 5
foot waves.

Get away from the computer once in a while to see what five footers
are...not scary at all.


I was talking about a NOAA prediction of large waves and the potential
of a surge on top of an incoming tide, all of which would have added up
to a big mess for some of our low-lying coastal towns on the Bay.

You know, Dennis, a fellow like you who lives in Cleveland likely has
little experience with hurricanes and other serious ocean-borne storms.
Further, since when you had a boat you spent most of your time tied up
to the dock because of your long-suffering wife's physical limitations
(according to you), I don't know why you are bothering to comment here.
As far as I can tell, when it comes to anything important about boat
handline, you don't know your ass from a monkey's fist.

Why don't you try to start or add to some boating posts here, and, in
the process, leave your bile in a jar. Or if you can't, just continue to
play spin the bottle with your butt buddies.

It's no wonder you're afraid to post your real name, address and
suchlike. Perhaps someone will take care of that for you, eh?


--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

Steve Daniels wrote:

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.


You'll have to excuse the Jim-Dennis persona. He lives in Cleveland, an
area infrequently visited by hurricanes, and obviously is confused by
the last place he stuck his nose.

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

It's called a rainstorm. No hurricane over the Chesapeake. No tropical
storm over the Chesapeake. A little rainstorm is all it was last night.

And to think that all hell was being predicted by Krause...and that he would
get his shorts in a knot over five footers. Pretty funny stuff.

Got it now?

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:26:44 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

It's called a rainstorm.

It's called a joke, something which apparently you wouldn't
recognize if it was kicking you in the nuts and singing Hello
Dolly.

"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:26:44 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

It's called a rainstorm.

It's called a joke, something which apparently you wouldn't
recognize if it was kicking you in the nuts and singing Hello
Dolly.

Someone wake up grumpy today?

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:32:52 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:26:44 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

It's called a rainstorm.

It's called a joke, something which apparently you wouldn't
recognize if it was kicking you in the nuts and singing Hello
Dolly.

Someone wake up grumpy today?

No, I let her sleep in.

Steve,
Two back to back great one liners, you need to stick around for awhile.


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:32:52 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:26:44 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 15:08:03 -0400, something compelled "jim--"
, to say:

We are not talking about hurricanes asshole.

It's called an eye, not an asshole, although for the rest of my
life I will have a new way of looking at those satellite
pictures.

Thanks for the visual.

It's called a rainstorm.

It's called a joke, something which apparently you wouldn't
recognize if it was kicking you in the nuts and singing Hello
Dolly.

Someone wake up grumpy today?

No, I let her sleep in.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

It's no wonder you're afraid to post your real name, address and
suchlike. Perhaps someone will take care of that for you, eh?

Harry, why don't you post your address and telephone number, eh.