On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 09:26:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 8:59 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:38:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is
like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.


I agree Windoze is a bloated pig but IOS isn't a lightweight either.
Just how big is your machine?
I am doing just fine with 3g of RAM and a dual core Intel 2.4gz
processor running 7.
I am planning to bump this up to 8g but the guys sent me the wrong
chips so I am still watching for the mail man.
The only thing that grinds this down is Facebook. That bloated pig
eats over 2g all by itself after a while., It is like, once they start
a script, they never stop it and just keep piling new ones on. I can
"X" out and restart it and it is OK until I run a while. Then it
starts slowing down again and I am paging like a mo fo. I even have an
SSD C: drive and that makes it better but task manager tells me I am
choked for RAM.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX.
I only have one machine hooked to Telco now and it is my W/98 laptop.
The fax program on it is pretty good tho. I have sent exactly one fax
since 2002 when my inspector contract expired.
That one was a waste of time.

My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

This old HP flatbed predates USB. I only liked it because 11x14 was
the smallest plan you could submit to Lee DCD (permit people). I could
draw up a plan on my CAD, Judy could print it at work on their big
printer and I could scan it after it was stamped.
It is pretty high resolution so it also makes it fast to scan a bunch
of pictures.
I do have a few USB scanners around here too but they are just
slightly oversized single page scanners.


Machine size: laptop has 16 GB of ram and 500 GB solid state drive. One
step up from standard issue. Desktop has 64 GB of ram and 500 GB solid
state drive. I only scan simple documents. Wife has better multi page
scanner to accommodate the long documents she has to scan. Nothing hooked
up to telco copper…we no longer have telco lines.



BTW, RAM sticks and SSD drives have come WAY down in price the last few
years. You can buy a top of the line, fast external 500 GB SSD for $60
to $75 and 64 GB of RAM sticks for under $200. Revolving drives for the
most part are obsolete.

SSDs are fine if you have good backups but when you are using them for
page files, they crap out pretty fast. They are only rated for a MTBF
of around 10,000 writes per cell. A page file can rack that up pretty
fast, particularly if the drive is fairly full and the firmware can't
shuffle the cells around. I am running one as my C: but I also back up
the image fairly often.
I am still using oxide for my data.

On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.

Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



But if you add in all the Apps, a lot longer.



Apps are updated as they are released. The apps built into the OS typically
are updated when you update the OS.

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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 15:52:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.

I have been a fan of PCs hooked to TVs since the Pentium 2 days when
the DVD player would run. That was using composite video since the 15
pin connector had not showed up on TVs yet, way before HDMI.
I still have a few composite video cards in the shop. The Dell under
the TV in the living room is HDMI and most others use the 15 pin.

On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.



One of my projects last summer was to totally insulate it.
It's a fairly large shed, big enough for work benches plus
a built-in desk with a large flat panel TV on the wall.

I bought a 20,000 BTU propane heater that operates on
a thermostat. Keeps the shed nice and toasty in the
winter, even with outdoor temps in single digits.

I don't leave the heater on when I am not in the shed
but it only takes 10-15 minutes to raise the temp up
to 70 (F) or more. Because of the insulation, it
doesn't lose everything at night when the heater is off.

On 4/23/2021 6:10 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell youÂ* an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything.Â* ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.


I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.




Typically, a full OS update on a Mac takes a half hour or less.



Wasn't my experience when I had the last Mac I tried. Forget what it
was called but it was a large screen, all in one model. When Apple
would change the OS from time to time it took forever to download
and install.



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On 4/23/2021 5:30 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 16:52:45 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/22/2021 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 4/22/21 5:30 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:45:04 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:r
So, I am playing around with a "new" version of Windoze 10 rewritten
for ARM CPUs, and while it works ok, it is just as clunky as I
remember Windoze 7 being. Just messing with it because there are a
few computer games I like from a decade or so ago that were never
neatly ported over to Macs directly or via STEAM. Windows is like
WORD for Windows...just completely too complex and overblown. Blech.
I'm running Windoze on my MacBook via Parallels 16.5, which does work
nicely.-- * Lock up Trump and his family of grifters. *

Ask Greg if he'd sell you an XP machine.

I will give him one for the shipping but I thinned out the herd a
while ago and most of them are gone.

I have a W/98 laptop I am not using these days. It has a SCSI card and
everything. ;-)
I used to use it on my 11x14 scanner. I don't use that anymore. It is
also my FAX machine. I don't use that either.

OTOH I can boot up native DOS 6.3 and W/3.1 on this machine just by
moving the boot pointer to my FAT drive.

I still have an XP laptop but it is mostly to hook up to my outboard
and cars. It has the software for OBDII and YDIS on it. I am not sure
if that will run on 7 or not but I don't feel like screwing with
something that works.


Windoze 10 runs nicely under Parallels 16.5 on my MacBook Air. Runs
really fast, too...the Parallels folks have stepped up to the plate. I
still don't like Windoze as an OS because it is just too fattttt and
clunky, but it is easy enough to setup and run. In fact, once I "told"
Parallels to install the Windoze ARM file, the entire process was fast
and required no attention from me. I'm only going to use the Windoze
setup to run a few of my old, favorite games.

Gave up my FAX machine years ago. I use FAXzero on the rare occasions
three times a year when I have an outgoing FAX. My scanner uses
USB...don't recall ever using a SCSI scanner.

I bought Mrs.E a small HP laptop with Win 10 over a year ago. She never
used it because all she uses now is her iPhone.

She gave it back to me yesterday and I set it up in my shed. It had not
been on for 444 days and needed all the updates since then that took
almost three hours to download and install.

Works great now. I have it hooked via HDMI to a 50" flatscreen on the
shed wall. Bought a WiFi extender and get a super strong connection.

Kinda nice because now I can watch all programming on Xfinity Stream,
NetFlix and Amazon Prime along with browsing and reading news and stuff.

Other than the long updating process, it works great.



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Does that shed have minimal heat all winter?
I'd be concerned about dampness up here.


I use the shed just about every day for something.
Sometimes it's just sitting watching TV.
So, I put the heater on in the morning. Once it
gets warm inside, it stays warm for quite a while,
even with the heater off.
No problems with dampness.