On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:23:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

===

Our political process has become such a blood sport that most
qualified people would just say no. Anyone crazy enough to want the
job should be immediately suspect.

On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society. Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really? Ending prohibitions against
dangerous addicting drugs? Easier access to firearms? Ending the public
school systeM? Endling environmental controls? No governmental oversight
of health care? No controls on movement of capital? Libertarianism is
the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you"

--
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452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Evangelical Tim, and Gunboy Alex.
Oh, if you are in the Bozo Bin, it is because you are only here to
insult or your posts lack wit or you are deadly dull, or a combination.
In Just-AN-Asshole's case, it is all three.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:55:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.

That just points out the flaws in the "pay to play" American political
system. If Dr Jorgensen had the $1,625,604,266 Biden spent she might
have won. More likely the race would have ended up in the house where
Trump would have won.

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:58:51 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society.

OK lets look at them.

Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really?

No the proposal was to replace SS with private investment and it came
from Barry Goldwater back when it was a viable option. We stayed with
the Ponzi and it is now upside down. We are borrowing money to make up
the shortfall. That is not viable for much longer. If I could have
just invested my FICA money in IBM stock I would have millions now,
even with the horrible IBM performance lately. In an index fund I
would have done better.

Ending prohibitions against dangerous addicting drugs?

Yeah, because the war on drugs has been so successful.
There are more people (per 100,000) addicted to opioids now than there
were when the drug war started.
All the drug war has done is turn our cities into combat zones,
corrupt the police and incarcerate about 100,000 people a year, mostly
people of color, for non-violent drug "crimes". Nixon's drug war has
put more black people in involuntary servitude than Lincoln freed.
The countries that have decriminalized drugs saw no real increase in
addiction. They just saw a drop in crime and political corruption.

Easier access to firearms?

Have our laws actually reduced the availability of firearms? The
places with the strictest laws have the most gun crime. Some laws are
just stupid, like equating a .22rf suppressor to a 50 cal machine gun.

Ending the public school system?

Another abject failure. We spend more than any other country to show
up around #26 in achievement. Private secular schools are a much
better bang for the buck and the Catholics blow them all away.

Endling environmental controls?

Not all environmental controls, just the arbitrary ones that cause
great financial and personal harm, returning very little in
environmental good.

No governmental oversight of health care?

I notice when that oversight offends the population as a whole, you
want to bypass it, like with this C-19 vaccine. If you just have an
orphan disease, wait 5-10 years, we will approve your drugs
eventually. Again an arbitrary policy that tends to make the US the
place with the most expensive drugs on the planet.

No controls on movement of capital?

We have that now?
Only when it is politically expedient. Bear in mind it was Bill
Clinton who gutted the regulations on the banks in the 90s and Barney
Frank who directed them to make NINJA loans to unqualified borrowers
through Fannie and Freddie.
The reality is the 2008-9 bailouts only kicked the can down the road,
We just borrowed the money to patch the hole and because the people
responsible, bought the government, they got bailed out on the tax
payer's dime. The average Joe took the hit.
Yeah government was the answer ... if you are Goldman Sachs.

Libertarianism is the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you".

Socialism is "You earned yours so now give it to some lazy ****er who
refuses to work".
The only place it comes close to working is where they have a
totalitarian government like Cuba or a cultural work ethic,
monoculture like some Scandinavian countries. Even those places are
starting to see their socialism fraying around the edges as the worker
generation is dying off and their snowflakes are coming of age.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society. Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really? Ending prohibitions against
dangerous addicting drugs? Easier access to firearms? Ending the public
school systeM? Endling environmental controls? No governmental oversight
of health care? No controls on movement of capital? Libertarianism is
the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you"


And as usual, you exceed stating what the Libertarians desire. How about
environmental controls that make sense? Even FDR said, Social Security was
not a retirement plan. Was the Widows and Children’s act, to stop
starvation when the wage earner died. Maybe it is I worked to get mine,
how about you work.

On 12/11/20 10:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society. Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really? Ending prohibitions against
dangerous addicting drugs? Easier access to firearms? Ending the public
school systeM? Endling environmental controls? No governmental oversight
of health care? No controls on movement of capital? Libertarianism is
the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you"


And as usual, you exceed stating what the Libertarians desire. How about
environmental controls that make sense? Even FDR said, Social Security was
not a retirement plan. Was the Widows and Children’s act, to stop
starvation when the wage earner died. Maybe it is I worked to get mine,
how about you work.


You should use your SS bennies to learn grammar school English, Bilious.

--
Bozo Bin resuscitated...John Herring in there, along with Bert Robbins,
452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Evangelical Tim, and Gunboy Alex.
Oh, if you are in the Bozo Bin, it is because you are only here to
insult or your posts lack wit or you are deadly dull, or a combination.
In Just-AN-Asshole's case, it is all three.

On 12/11/20 10:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:58:51 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society.

OK lets look at them.


No, thanks. I've seen the loonytarian bull**** from you too many times.

On Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 08:35:03 UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 10:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society. Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really? Ending prohibitions against
dangerous addicting drugs? Easier access to firearms? Ending the public
school systeM? Endling environmental controls? No governmental oversight
of health care? No controls on movement of capital? Libertarianism is
the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you"


And as usual, you exceed stating what the Libertarians desire. How about
environmental controls that make sense? Even FDR said, Social Security was
not a retirement plan. Was the Widows and Children’s act, to stop
starvation when the wage earner died. Maybe it is I worked to get mine,
how about you work.

You should use your SS bennies to learn grammar school English, Bilious.
--
Bozo Bin resuscitated...John Herring in there, along with Bert Robbins,
452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Evangelical Tim, and Gunboy Alex.
Oh, if you are in the Bozo Bin, it is because you are only here to
insult or your posts lack wit or you are deadly dull, or a combination.
In Just-AN-Asshole's case, it is all three.


SNERK!
Swill is afraid he'd fail...like he did the first time around 80 years ago.

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 08:35:03 UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 10:42 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 4:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.




If the news reporters actually were not extensions of the two primary
parties, they could.


What is your basis for saying that? Most libertarians who attempt to run
for federal office are nutcases, like Ron and Rand Paul, and they
usually run as Republicans, which is, after all, what they are by
another name. Many libertarian positions are outright insane,
considering the realities of modern society. Get rid of social security
and replace it with private charity? Really? Ending prohibitions against
dangerous addicting drugs? Easier access to firearms? Ending the public
school systeM? Endling environmental controls? No governmental oversight
of health care? No controls on movement of capital? Libertarianism is
the ultimate in "I've got mine, **** you"


And as usual, you exceed stating what the Libertarians desire. How about
environmental controls that make sense? Even FDR said, Social Security was
not a retirement plan. Was the Widows and Children’s act, to stop
starvation when the wage earner died. Maybe it is I worked to get mine,
how about you work.

You should use your SS bennies to learn grammar school English, Bilious.
--
Bozo Bin resuscitated...John Herring in there, along with Bert Robbins,
452471atgmail.com, Just-AN-Asshole, Evangelical Tim, and Gunboy Alex.
Oh, if you are in the Bozo Bin, it is because you are only here to
insult or your posts lack wit or you are deadly dull, or a combination.
In Just-AN-Asshole's case, it is all three.


SNERK!
Swill is afraid he'd fail...like he did the first time around 80 years ago.


Fail? Seems as if a life as a toilet cleaner is not a sign of great
education. Harry, going through a couple of Bankruptcy proceedings and now
a court appearance with a payday lender, is not a sign his educational
claims were valid. Me? I have a university engineering job degree, able
to retire before 60 with a nice income stream, says I did okay with my
education. Plus I was not born 80 years ago. My 60th high school reunion
is next year. Proves I actually graduated. Seems as if the modern schools
run by Harry’s classmates, believe more in social promotion, instead of
actually being educated. But, you show your stupidity here regularly.
Would your school teachers be proud of you and your life choices?

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 13:03:00 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 03:24:05 -0000 (UTC), Keyser Soze
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:55:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/11/20 3:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 14:03:22 -0500, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:01:48 -0500, wrote:

Joe and Kamala have pushed the pig out of the White House

Laverne and Shirley would have polled as well as Biden/Harris. It was
just an anti-trump protest vote, having nothing to do with the
strength of the democrat candidates.

===

I agree. If Trump had not behaved like such a lying, scumbag arse'l
he probably would have been re-elected. His ego must have led him to
believe that he had a blank check to do anything he wanted.

We are certainly on the race to the bottom. Hillary couldn't beat
Trump but she crushed Biden in the primaries. Now Biden is the great
white haired hope.
I wonder what it would take to get qualified applicants for that job.

The candidates you support couldn't run unopposed as libertarians and
win a race for dogcatcher.

That just points out the flaws in the "pay to play" American political
system. If Dr Jorgensen had the $1,625,604,266 Biden spent she might
have won. More likely the race would have ended up in the house where
Trump would have won.


The Dems control the House. There’s no hope for the Republi-Tarians.

A little civics lesson. In choosing the president each state only gets
one vote so California and New York are exactly the same size as
Wyoming and Idaho.

===

That doesn't sound right. Please explain.