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What sort of holiday season would it be without the opportunity to crap
on Donald Trump for Halloween, Election Day, Thanksgiving, and Kwanza?

If you invited him, would Donald show up at your kids' Halloween parties
and infect them all with a deadly disease?


Harry is back!. I knew you couldn't stay away ;-)

Welcome Home. The boys missed you.

Eternal September now? Just like Tom.
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Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!


DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


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On 10/5/20 11:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 13:28:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!


DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


It's a matter of what is in it for the U.S. citizens who live in D.C.
and Puerto Rico. D.C. has more citizens than what, four U.S. states, and
PR would rank about 30th in population. All basically disenfranchised.


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On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 06:50:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 10/5/20 11:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 13:28:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!


DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


It's a matter of what is in it for the U.S. citizens who live in D.C.
and Puerto Rico. D.C. has more citizens than what, four U.S. states, and
PR would rank about 30th in population. All basically disenfranchised.



I already said, DC could fairly easily absorbed into Maryland. Then
they would raise the power of Maryland and be "franchised".

I also do not feel the people of PR are necessarily entitled to be a
state. How about Guam and Samoa? We actually have more national
(military) interest there.

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On 10/6/20 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 06:50:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/5/20 11:36 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 13:28:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!

DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


It's a matter of what is in it for the U.S. citizens who live in D.C.
and Puerto Rico. D.C. has more citizens than what, four U.S. states, and
PR would rank about 30th in population. All basically disenfranchised.



I already said, DC could fairly easily absorbed into Maryland. Then
they would raise the power of Maryland and be "franchised".

I also do not feel the people of PR are necessarily entitled to be a
state. How about Guam and Samoa? We actually have more national
(military) interest there.


What's wrong with DC statehood? The possibility of two Democratic U.S.
Senators? And when did national military interest become the criteria
for statehood? There are 3+ million disenfranchised U.S. citizens in PR.

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On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 12:25:12 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 10/6/20 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 06:50:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/5/20 11:36 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 13:28:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!

DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


It's a matter of what is in it for the U.S. citizens who live in D.C.
and Puerto Rico. D.C. has more citizens than what, four U.S. states, and
PR would rank about 30th in population. All basically disenfranchised.



I already said, DC could fairly easily absorbed into Maryland. Then
they would raise the power of Maryland and be "franchised".

I also do not feel the people of PR are necessarily entitled to be a
state. How about Guam and Samoa? We actually have more national
(military) interest there.


What's wrong with DC statehood? The possibility of two Democratic U.S.
Senators?

I understand that is your incentive but it makes more sense to just
absorb them into Maryland. We are still constitutionally required to
have a federal district tho. Once you separate out the district from
your new state, it is questionable that it actually has ability to
fund itself.

And when did national military interest become the criteria
for statehood?

It was the reason why we ended up with Puerto Rico in the first place
after the Spanish American War. Virtually all of our territories were
taken in a war and kept for strategic reasons.

There are 3+ million disenfranchised U.S. citizens in PR.


.... and the last time they were given the chance to vote on a
referendum, 2.3 million of them didn't care enough to show up. I
understand you want to add 2 Senators and some EC votes but that is
not a valid reason to add this liability to the US tax payers. There
is actually no guarantee that PR would be a blue state anyway. Latino
Catholics tend to be more conservative than you would like.
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On 10/5/20 11:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 13:28:51 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Statehood for the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico!


DC should just be absorbed back into Maryland like the missing part of
the diamond went to Virginia.
Just carve out the federal triangle to fulfill the constitutional
requirement for a federal district. (Art 1 Sec 8 (17))
It used to be that Maryland didn't want them but now the slums are
creeping over the DC line into PG and near in Montgomery anyway. A lot
of money has moved back into DC. Montgomery would certainly like to
take everything West of the park. PG would be the tossup. North East
seems to be Gentrifying and it was always fairly nice, but "Souf ese",
not so much. (When my Ex had to decide which house to sell, the one in
Clinton or the one she grew up in on So Dakota ave, the S.D. ave house
was worth more)
Puerto Rico is a whole different thing. I am not sure enough Senators
would ratify that to make it happen. That is just a black hole for
federal dollars and making it a state will not change that.
The population there seems to vacillate back and forth every decade or
two about whether they want to be a state, stay a territory or they
want out completely.
In 67 it was an overwhelming No vote for statehood. In 1998 it was
only 46% who wanted statehood, the rest wanted something else. In
2012 61% wanted it and in 2017 77% of the people did not care enough
to even vote on it.

To be pragmatic, I am not sure what is in it for the US. We don't need
that as a refueling spot or forward base into the South Atlantic
anymore and they really hate us using the area around there for
military exercises.


Maryland would gain a swamp and DC would aquire the Negro Highway. Maryland
loses!


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