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250,000 bikers converging on Stergis
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 17:34:04 -0400, John wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:45:52 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 07:42:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 00:35:08 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 19:37:54 -0400, John wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:56:39 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: What covid go wrong? lol! Maybe they will keep their helmets on with the face shield. I saw some chick on a Japanese crotch rocket do that at Publix the other day. Nobody said a word. All we bikers agree that full-face helmets are the best protection, along with leather jackets, jeans, and gloves. I see that now and then here but in the summer that must be pretty damned hot, particularly in stop and go traffic. Yes, it can get hot, but not nearly as hot as sliding on asphalt at 60mph. If I had to acknowledge that riding was that dangerous, I would stop. ;-) |
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#33
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 06:10:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 1:46:28 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:24:03 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:36:47 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/8/20 12:20 PM, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Anything is better than nothing, I suppose. Somehow I don't think John had do rag in mind when he speaks of face covering. Wasn't it you who first mentioned bandanas and neck gaiters. We just left vegas and I would say that 95% of the folks I saw were wearing their masks properly,indoors and out. The law, anywhere I have heard of one, does not differentiate between a do-rag and an N-95 respirator ... or my face shield. Sounds like most people, in spite of the letter of the law, are doing the right thing... except for you. My face shield meets the requirement. In fact they are showing up in lots of stores on the employees. Costco was the first and that was months ago when they were one of the few who required a "face covering". The last time I was there at least a quarter of the employees had face shields. It was originally the door people and the ones corralling carts or stocking shelves. The majority out in the wild have some useless cloth thing. (Either a "nanna" mask a bandanna or a neck gaiter) At least my face shield stops 100% of those projectile "droplets" John has his skivvies in a bunch over. Do you wear your face shield? You have repeatedly stated that you don't wear any face covering in public. If you are wearing a face shield, then good for you! That was then, this is now, try to keep up. Not easy when you are channeling harry. Isn't that a variation of Godwin's law? :-) Even if you ignore the snippage there are a couple of references to "My face shield" in the quoted text that remains. |
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#34
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On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:23:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 06:10:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 1:46:28 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:24:03 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:36:47 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/8/20 12:20 PM, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Anything is better than nothing, I suppose. Somehow I don't think John had do rag in mind when he speaks of face covering. Wasn't it you who first mentioned bandanas and neck gaiters. We just left vegas and I would say that 95% of the folks I saw were wearing their masks properly,indoors and out. The law, anywhere I have heard of one, does not differentiate between a do-rag and an N-95 respirator ... or my face shield. Sounds like most people, in spite of the letter of the law, are doing the right thing... except for you. My face shield meets the requirement. In fact they are showing up in lots of stores on the employees. Costco was the first and that was months ago when they were one of the few who required a "face covering". The last time I was there at least a quarter of the employees had face shields. It was originally the door people and the ones corralling carts or stocking shelves. The majority out in the wild have some useless cloth thing. (Either a "nanna" mask a bandanna or a neck gaiter) At least my face shield stops 100% of those projectile "droplets" John has his skivvies in a bunch over. Do you wear your face shield? You have repeatedly stated that you don't wear any face covering in public. If you are wearing a face shield, then good for you! That was then, this is now, try to keep up. Not easy when you are channeling harry. Isn't that a variation of Godwin's law? :-) Even if you ignore the snippage there are a couple of references to "My face shield" in the quoted text that remains. That quote is there, twice. What is not there, as we've seen from our ex-wordsmith, is you saying that you actually wear it while in public settings.  So are you? Or do you just have one? I have one too. I wear it when grinding or sanding or sandblasting, as well as some other stuff. |
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#35
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:36:49 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:23:54 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 06:10:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 1:46:28 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:24:03 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:36:47 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/8/20 12:20 PM, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Anything is better than nothing, I suppose. Somehow I don't think John had do rag in mind when he speaks of face covering. Wasn't it you who first mentioned bandanas and neck gaiters. We just left vegas and I would say that 95% of the folks I saw were wearing their masks properly,indoors and out. The law, anywhere I have heard of one, does not differentiate between a do-rag and an N-95 respirator ... or my face shield. Sounds like most people, in spite of the letter of the law, are doing the right thing... except for you. My face shield meets the requirement. In fact they are showing up in lots of stores on the employees. Costco was the first and that was months ago when they were one of the few who required a "face covering". The last time I was there at least a quarter of the employees had face shields. It was originally the door people and the ones corralling carts or stocking shelves. The majority out in the wild have some useless cloth thing. (Either a "nanna" mask a bandanna or a neck gaiter) At least my face shield stops 100% of those projectile "droplets" John has his skivvies in a bunch over. Do you wear your face shield? You have repeatedly stated that you don't wear any face covering in public. If you are wearing a face shield, then good for you! That was then, this is now, try to keep up. Not easy when you are channeling harry. Isn't that a variation of Godwin's law? :-) Even if you ignore the snippage there are a couple of references to "My face shield" in the quoted text that remains. That quote is there, twice. What is not there, as we've seen from our ex-wordsmith, is you saying that you actually wear it while in public settings. So are you? Or do you just have one? I have one too. I wear it when grinding or sanding or sandblasting, as well as some other stuff. In this context, why would I bring it up if I wasn't wearing it in places that require a face covering. I have a box of N-95s but I am not wasting them on this bull****. They are useless if you believe John anyway because they have the check valve so my "droplets" would be blasting the world. I am taken back a little by John's message. He basically says "your mask can't keep you from being infected but when you get infected you might save the other guy". That is not an optimistic message. That is "fall on the grenade" ****. |
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#36
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On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 21:30:59 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 17:31:59 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:50:32 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 07:44:56 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 23:22:53 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:36:47 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/8/20 12:20 PM, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Anything is better than nothing, I suppose. Somehow I don't think John had do rag in mind when he speaks of face covering. Wasn't it you who first mentioned bandanas and neck gaiters. We just left vegas and I would say that 95% of the folks I saw were wearing their masks properly,indoors and out. The law, anywhere I have heard of one, does not differentiate between a do-rag and an N-95 respirator ... or my face shield. Common sense does. So you are wearing an N-95? A respirator is to protect the wearer from inhaling a dangerous substance. A 'mask' as defined by the CDC is to keep the wearer from expelling dangerous substances. What hasn't been proven is that they actually do because nobody even knows what a mask really is. That is why there is no actual clinical study of cloth masks other than the one I presented. I am not talking about an opinion based on anecdotal and cherry picked data. I am talking about a controlled study with defined parameters and some kind of standard masks with specific construction. Find one and I will read it. Oh bull****. Read the CDC guidelines, and go look at the posts Luddite has made. If all else fails, use your common sense. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#37
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250,000 bikers converging on Stergis
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 21:32:22 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 17:34:04 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:45:52 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 07:42:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 00:35:08 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 19:37:54 -0400, John wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:56:39 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: What covid go wrong? lol! Maybe they will keep their helmets on with the face shield. I saw some chick on a Japanese crotch rocket do that at Publix the other day. Nobody said a word. All we bikers agree that full-face helmets are the best protection, along with leather jackets, jeans, and gloves. I see that now and then here but in the summer that must be pretty damned hot, particularly in stop and go traffic. Yes, it can get hot, but not nearly as hot as sliding on asphalt at 60mph. If I had to acknowledge that riding was that dangerous, I would stop. ;-) Riding isn't dangerous. Crashing is dangerous, just as it is in an automobile. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#38
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250,000 bikers converging on Stergis
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:01:17 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:36:49 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 11:23:54 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 3:51:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 06:10:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Sunday, August 9, 2020 at 1:46:28 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 20:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:24:03 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 23:36:47 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: On 8/8/20 12:20 PM, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Anything is better than nothing, I suppose. Somehow I don't think John had do rag in mind when he speaks of face covering. Wasn't it you who first mentioned bandanas and neck gaiters. We just left vegas and I would say that 95% of the folks I saw were wearing their masks properly,indoors and out. The law, anywhere I have heard of one, does not differentiate between a do-rag and an N-95 respirator ... or my face shield. Sounds like most people, in spite of the letter of the law, are doing the right thing... except for you. My face shield meets the requirement. In fact they are showing up in lots of stores on the employees. Costco was the first and that was months ago when they were one of the few who required a "face covering". The last time I was there at least a quarter of the employees had face shields. It was originally the door people and the ones corralling carts or stocking shelves. The majority out in the wild have some useless cloth thing. (Either a "nanna" mask a bandanna or a neck gaiter) At least my face shield stops 100% of those projectile "droplets" John has his skivvies in a bunch over. Do you wear your face shield? You have repeatedly stated that you don't wear any face covering in public. If you are wearing a face shield, then good for you! That was then, this is now, try to keep up. Not easy when you are channeling harry. Isn't that a variation of Godwin's law? :-) Even if you ignore the snippage there are a couple of references to "My face shield" in the quoted text that remains. That quote is there, twice. What is not there, as we've seen from our ex-wordsmith, is you saying that you actually wear it while in public settings. So are you? Or do you just have one? I have one too. I wear it when grinding or sanding or sandblasting, as well as some other stuff. In this context, why would I bring it up if I wasn't wearing it in places that require a face covering. I have a box of N-95s but I am not wasting them on this bull****. They are useless if you believe John anyway because they have the check valve so my "droplets" would be blasting the world. I am taken back a little by John's message. He basically says "your mask can't keep you from being infected but when you get infected you might save the other guy". That is not an optimistic message. That is "fall on the grenade" ****. You're finally getting the idea, except the mask won't kill you. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#39
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250,000 bikers converging on Stergis
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 21:26:10 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 17:29:25 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:49:42 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 07:43:59 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:20:55 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 15:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: Most of the Sturgis crowd wear do-rags and brain buckets. Just pull that do-rag over your mouth and you are Herring Safe. Greggie! You are the one who first brought up 'do-rags', or do you forget? I've never promoted them, and I don't think anyone else here has done so. It is still "acceptable" by the mask nazis and why I say the rules are too ambagious to mean anything. If we are going to use statistics to prove "masks work" and most, even you admit are a joke, how good is the study? I would say the number of real respirators I see here is far less than 10% and that is the standard the NIH is using. Greg! The only study I said was a joke was the one you presented. Remember? The CDC, as you've been shown multiple times, has put out guidelines on masks. You refuse to acknowledge same, so you keep on with your 'rules are ambiguous' bull****. A respirator is a device to keep the wearer from inhaling dangerous substances. You shouldn't be seeing *anyone* wearing a respirator unless you're wandering the halls of your local hospital! OK I will go slow. Are Bandanas a joke? If so how about a neck gaiter? That is what I was talking about and they are very commonly represented as "masks" and perfectly legal under a flawed law. My next question. What do you think the average mask people have been reusing for a month or more would look like if we cultured it? Sounds like a science fair project to me. Yeah I know, you swear you wash yours and dry it every time but I doubt 10% of the people actually do. This is a fad we will all laugh about in a couple years. Given the attitudes and actions of those folks living around you, I doubt if they do wash them. Washing them continuously isn't necessary unless you're carrying the virus. Since you may be an unknowing carrier, you should wear and wash it regularly. In other words, use a bit of common sense. -- Freedom Isn't Free! |
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#40
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:02:58 -0400, John wrote:
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 21:32:22 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 17:34:04 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:45:52 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 07:42:44 -0400, John wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 00:35:08 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 19:37:54 -0400, John wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:56:39 -0000 (UTC), Justan wrote: What covid go wrong? lol! Maybe they will keep their helmets on with the face shield. I saw some chick on a Japanese crotch rocket do that at Publix the other day. Nobody said a word. All we bikers agree that full-face helmets are the best protection, along with leather jackets, jeans, and gloves. I see that now and then here but in the summer that must be pretty damned hot, particularly in stop and go traffic. Yes, it can get hot, but not nearly as hot as sliding on asphalt at 60mph. If I had to acknowledge that riding was that dangerous, I would stop. ;-) Riding isn't dangerous. Crashing is dangerous, just as it is in an automobile. I don't wear a helmet and leathers in my car either and it is air conditioned. ;-) |
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