On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
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These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

Seems that’s how it works with a lot of stuff anymore
12:23 PMBill
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On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 17:23:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

Why would you want any choke in a defense weapon?
Here is a guy in Ebay with one for $100 shipped

It is 28" with a choke but a few minutes with a hacksaw and a file
will make it 18.25" cyl bore.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-1100-12ga-28-plain-shotgun-barrel-Rem-Choke-2-3-4-3-shells/283897709507?hash=item42199f43c3:g:dXQAAOSw42Fe07r L

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 17:23:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

Why would you want any choke in a defense weapon?
Here is a guy in Ebay with one for $100 shipped

It is 28" with a choke but a few minutes with a hacksaw and a file
will make it 18.25" cyl bore.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-1100-12ga-28-plain-shotgun-barrel-Rem-Choke-2-3-4-3-shells/283897709507?hash=item42199f43c3:g:dXQAAOSw42Fe07r L


Was looking at it for trap and not home defense.

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 20:54:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 17:23:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

Why would you want any choke in a defense weapon?
Here is a guy in Ebay with one for $100 shipped

It is 28" with a choke but a few minutes with a hacksaw and a file
will make it 18.25" cyl bore.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-1100-12ga-28-plain-shotgun-barrel-Rem-Choke-2-3-4-3-shells/283897709507?hash=item42199f43c3:g:dXQAAOSw42Fe07r L


Was looking at it for trap and not home defense.

For $100 you can have both.

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 20:54:55 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 17:23:37 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:17:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 7:08:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 13:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

In the pic that’s circulating, the big guy “looks� like he’s carting a
TR RZ17. Nasty lookin shotgun!
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tr-s...052024206.html


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 08:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:
- show quoted text -
These days the gangsters are usually better armed than the shop
keepers.
Shotguns are probably the best deterrent but you need more than one
guy because of the limited ammo they carry, unless you have a Saiga or
similar with a box magazine.


It may be ugly enough but your daddy's 1897 Winchester has the same
fire power and magazine tube capacity. If you think you are
confronting a lot of evil do'ers I want a box magazine or 10.

I'd take my Remington 1100 over that. Or the thing under my bed:

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/mossberg-maverick-88-field-and-security-combo-pump-action-shotgun-12-gauge-2818.5-barrel-3-chamber-5-rounds-bead-sight-synthetic-forendstock-matte-black/FC-049533310149.html

With the short barrel mounted, of course.

This is a few smash and grab petty looters. They see pretty much any
resistance, they are gone. The gangsta's you are talking about is
another whole thing, but that's not who is doing this BS.

BTW, Trump's address this afternoon was spot on as far as I'm concerned.
Peaceful protests are fine. Violence with looting and burning... bring
on on, bitches.

If I was worried about it I would buy a saiga but I am OK with my 97.
I shot enough skeet with it that I point it fairly instinctively and
that thing never jams, no matter what you are putting through it.
I had it between the seat and the console through all of the 68
unpleasantness.



Remington 1100 is to long, at least mine. The Model 12, or the Mossberg
500 with the 8+1 I inherited would probably be the best.

You can get an 18" barrel for any of those Remingtons and a longer
magazine tube. They have tricked up stocks, optics and all that rambo
stuff.
They may even be making a 1100 "pistol" by now.


My 1100 was my duck hunting rig. Older model. Can buy a nice new
shotgun for what Remington wants for a new RemChoke barrel.

Why would you want any choke in a defense weapon?
Here is a guy in Ebay with one for $100 shipped

It is 28" with a choke but a few minutes with a hacksaw and a file
will make it 18.25" cyl bore.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-1100-12ga-28-plain-shotgun-barrel-Rem-Choke-2-3-4-3-shells/283897709507?hash=item42199f43c3:g:dXQAAOSw42Fe07r L


Was looking at it for trap and not home defense.

OTOH I am not sure why trap shooters don't use a single shot.
I have never seen people shoot anything but singles from the 16 yard
line.
I know there are shooters who back up or shoot doubles but they were
never at a range I have been to and we shot a lot of skeet at combo
ranges. At 16 yards I have used my skeet gun although it is trivial at
the "8" station. We used to take a high house, a low house and a trap
bird when we were screwing around. That was when I wanted my wife's
1100.