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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. My "Y" fare to San Francisco from Dulles was $498 in 1974. That would be about $2600 now with inflation. When we flew to SFO for our California trip in 2009, our first class tickets were about $1300 each and flying from Ft Myers is more expensive than flying from DC. |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On Tue, 5 May 2020 21:53:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 9:40 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 13:47:29 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. That sounds about right although there are some ways to get a better price and still ride up front. You do get extra stuff. Usually you are only sharing that little bathroom with a dozen other people, not 2 bathrooms for 100 people. You get priority boarding, the fast line through TSA, Fast line at the ticket counter if you need something, checked bags are included, up to 70 pounds each, free drinks, better service overall and the seat is a LOT bigger. What do you think a fair price for a flight should be, assuming you want it to include checked bags, a seat that is not cramped so badly the person in front of you can't use the seat recliner, maybe a snack and a soft drink? If you want to pay Walmart prices for an ala carte ticket, expect to pay extra for everything. That is what ala carte means. On most of the planes I've been on in recent years, the toilet in first class is accessible to anyone on the plane. That has happened on a few flights I was on but if a first class passenger complains, they pull the curtain and turn the cattle car folks back. I've flown first class in about half the flights I've taken in the last two decades. Priority boarding doesn't make the plane take off faster. A few cheap drinks and a crappy airline meal doesn't add up to the increase in price. Yes, the seat is bigger. That is worth a lot to me right there. I don't want to be fighting with some fat **** in the center seat for the armrest or his blubber flowing over the armrest. I also like having the free drinks, snack tray and maybe a meal. It makes the flight more pleasant and not like a MAC flight on a troop transport plane. I think the airlines have ****ed themselves over, and I don't mean the corona-related troubles. How is that? |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was Chicago. |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was Chicago. Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain in the ass. Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports. -- MAGA - Manipulating America's Gullible Assholes |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was Chicago. Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain in the ass. Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports. The government builds the airports. The staffing is probably because that is what affordable with $99 fares. |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 1:43:51 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 9:57 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/5/20 1:02 PM, wrote: On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete. Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent service at decent prices, but I doubt it. (CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the airline will need to "right size" its workforce. The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300% inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what you can get economy coach for now. If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated" coach. It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms, and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900 more for "first class" trip to San Francisco. And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation. BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35 passengers. I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was Chicago. Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain in the ass. Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports. The government builds the airports. The staffing is probably because that is what affordable with $99 fares. Generally, airports are run by federal or state governments, and are funded by the airlines that fly into them in the form of fees for landing, gates, etc. Harry's crappy airport: "The Maryland Aviation Administration (MAA) is the owner and operator of Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport (BWI) and Martin State Airport. We invite you to explore this web site, which focuses on the government agency aspects of the MAA." His wonderful Maryland democrats run his poorly managed and funded airport. Heh, heh. |
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United Airlines asking workers to leave their jobs...
Keyser Soze wrote:
I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks. Spectacular writing job! |
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