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On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.


It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".
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wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.

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Keyser Soze wrote: I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.Spectacular writing job!


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On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.

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On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.

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On 5/7/2020 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===




It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.



Problem is trying to determine which ones will survive and which ones
will go belly-up or be acquired.



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On 5/7/20 1:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


===

It's important to note that the airlines do not design and build
airports.

Speaking of airlines, you can buy their stock very inexpensively now.
If you had any money you could buy some and become an activist
investor.


Yeah, I'm sure. So, where's the list of airlines that will survive and
thrive and the list of airlines that will take a Trump?

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On Thu, 7 May 2020 05:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.


RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


I only flew out of Newark once and compared to LGA, I thought it was
OK.
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On Thu, 7 May 2020 07:43:19 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/7/20 1:27 AM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


Heheh. "ATL is ok" ATL is a huge, hot mess. As I previously stated, our
airports are decades behind what is needed. Airports all over the word
are far superior to ours in all the ways that matter to passengers, and
our airlines don't give a flying **** about passengers.


You were talking about restaurants. ATL has pretty nice ones and the
train makes them all pretty easy to get to. I never really "parked"
there but getting a rental car is easy and they seem fairly well
staffed. I am always on Delta and that is their main hub so that may
be part of the reason I think they are OK. Generally all of my
connecting flights are in the same concourse and usually the gates are
within sight of each other. I have been to or through ATL a bunch of
times because Atlanta was also an IBM destination. It is also the main
hub out of RSW. The joke here is that if you die and go to heaven, you
still have to change planes in Atlanta.
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On Thu, 07 May 2020 17:55:22 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2020 05:27:06 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2020 09:19:33 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 11:06 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 22:04:24 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/5/20 9:57 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 19:14:52 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/5/20 1:02 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:16:32 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

I feel for the working stiff airline employees everywhere who are going
to lose their jobs, but not for the airline industry or its shareholders
in this country who for decades have made air travel the miserable
experience it has become for passengers. I'm old enough to remember when
air travel was "regulated," and when planes were roomier, service was
better, and our airports were only on the verge of being obsolete.

Perhaps there will be a rebirth of airline companies devoted to decent
service at decent prices, but I doubt it.

(CNN Business) A top executive at United Airlines is telling employees
to consider leaving the company voluntarily as it grapples with the
consequences of the coronavirus pandemic.
In a memo to some United Airlines staffers, which was obtained by CNN
Business, Greg Hart — the company's chief operations officer — said the
airline will need to "right size" its workforce.

The problem will be what you call "decent prices". In spite of 300%
inflation. the "regulated" plane fare in 1977 was far more than what
you can get economy coach for now.
If you can't afford 1st class now, you couldn't afford "regulated"
coach.


It's not a matter of afford...it is a matter of not willing to be robbed
for a slightly larger seat, the same crappy little uncleaned restrooms,
and a $3.00 first class airline meal. Last time I checked, it was $900
more for "first class" trip to San Francisco.


And what did coach ticket cost before deregulation? Figure in inflation.

BTW without regulation, they would not have even flown the plane I
went out there on. It was a 747 with a piano bar and about 35
passengers.


I don't think I've ever been on a 747. I suspect there are very few
flights out of National with that plane. To easily get on a 747 for a
flight out of this area. I'd think you'd have to go out to Dulles. That
is two to three hours from here on the Beltway and I-66. No thanks.

It was really the non-stop to SFO at the time other than going to BWI
and that was no picnic either. They didn't fly any long haul planes
out of DCA. If you were going to California, you were changing planes
somewhere in the midwest, probably ORD or MSP. On American it was
Chicago.


Ahh, BWI. For some reason, despite the amount of traffic it handles, it
is serious understaffed at the gates and has few decent restaurants to
occupy yourself while waiting for a late plane. Parking is also a pain
in the ass.

Generally speaking, we have lots of really crappy airports.

RSW seems OK. ;-)

Other than being very busy ATL is OK too, once you find your way
around.

Generally speaking airports all suck tho. LGA has to suck the worst
tho.
"La Guardia" is Italian for "2 hours late".


Newark is where the people you only see at the carnival midway live I
think.


I only flew out of Newark once and compared to LGA, I thought it was
OK.


===

I used to fly out of LGA quite often going back 20 years or so. It
was only a 25 minute limo ride from where I used to live so it was
quite convenient in that respect. They also had the Boston shuttle
which was a fairly decent service.

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