wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.

They are taller than a sedan so they needed a different name I
suppose. The station wagon was the Dodge Magnum.

Actually I was ahead of the trend with my 72 Jeep Commando. It was one
of the first SUVs. (Basically a SUV style body on a Jeep CJ 6
chassis).
It shared the same problem the CJs had. It was easy to roll. I rolled
mine.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/commando1-1513888628.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.752xh;0,0.113xh&resiz e=2400:*

Mine was tweety bird yellow with chrome Castler side pipes under the
door (I ripped out the stock exhaust off roading).

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.

Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:56:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)



First sound is a consonant. Therefore, 'a' soccer game.

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:56:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)


It all gets back to that singular thing. One "Ess" or just a word that
starts with "S".
As I pointed out with my "an half a hour" it is really what it sounds
like when you say it. Ain't English great?

At least we don't assign words gender like the romance languages.

Hell we can't even define people by gender anymore and they can
romance anyone they want.

On 11/16/18 11:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:56:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)


It all gets back to that singular thing. One "Ess" or just a word that
starts with "S".
As I pointed out with my "an half a hour" it is really what it sounds
like when you say it. Ain't English great?

At least we don't assign words gender like the romance languages.

Hell we can't even define people by gender anymore and they can
romance anyone they want.



I know this is a difficult concept for you "science types," but one of
the beauties of "Ingrish" is that it has so many exceptions...

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:06:12 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/16/18 11:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:56:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)


It all gets back to that singular thing. One "Ess" or just a word that
starts with "S".
As I pointed out with my "an half a hour" it is really what it sounds
like when you say it. Ain't English great?

At least we don't assign words gender like the romance languages.

Hell we can't even define people by gender anymore and they can
romance anyone they want.



I know this is a difficult concept for you "science types," but one of
the beauties of "Ingrish" is that it has so many exceptions...

I was just pointing out that virtually every other language has rules.
In English it is almost as if we were just making them up on the fly.
Maybe that is just a reflection of the fact that Scotland is where the
Romans said "OK that's far enough" and they built a wall.
The rules of their very precise language stopped on that island too.

On 11/16/18 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 12:06:12 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/16/18 11:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:56:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/16/2018 6:37 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.


Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.


So, do you go to "an" soccer game or "a" soccer game?

"Essoccer" sure sounds like "EssUV" :-)


It all gets back to that singular thing. One "Ess" or just a word that
starts with "S".
As I pointed out with my "an half a hour" it is really what it sounds
like when you say it. Ain't English great?

At least we don't assign words gender like the romance languages.

Hell we can't even define people by gender anymore and they can
romance anyone they want.



I know this is a difficult concept for you "science types," but one of
the beauties of "Ingrish" is that it has so many exceptions...

I was just pointing out that virtually every other language has rules.
In English it is almost as if we were just making them up on the fly.
Maybe that is just a reflection of the fact that Scotland is where the
Romans said "OK that's far enough" and they built a wall.
The rules of their very precise language stopped on that island too.



English is not an easy language to learn, but there are worse for
different reasons. Russian, for example...totally different alphabet,
and Hebrew must be a bear, too, for the same reason. When I took Russian
in high school, it took most of us in that class half a semester before
we could get familiar enough with the cyrillic alphabet to get anywhere
with any of it. I suppose it would be the same with the other Slavic
languages and modern Greek, too.

On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 6:37:23 AM UTC-5, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:05:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:06:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/15/2018 2:50 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:00:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:


On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:34:40 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:



Well, my recollection was that the Group 34 AGM seemed to weigh about
50% more than the last "old style" Group 34 battery I replaced in an SUV.

Ahem. A "S" doesn't sound like a vowel.

:-)

Ahem. Always use 'an' for words which sound like they start with a
vowel, and always use 'a' for
words which sound like they start with a consonant.



I had to look it up. I always knew about an "a" before a consonant (did
that right!) and an "an" before before a vowel. (did that right too!)

But I never knew about the official rules about "sounding" like a vowel
or a consonant.

Musta skipped class that day.


So you could buy -a- SUV, eh? I bought
-an- SUV.

It took me an half a hour to figure out what you were arguing about
;-)


Why do they call them a Sport Utility Vehicle? Most are just station
wagons.

Because soccer moms like the 'impression' given by an SUV versus a mini-van.

I think it's more that the man of the house doesn't want a mini-van, so he buys an SUV for his wife to haul the kids around in.