On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops

From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.


I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range"
moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My
recollection is that many were not very good shots with their sidearms.
The local County Mounties have their own range in Calvert, and the
public is not invited.

On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops

From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.



In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic
accurate range of a handgun anyway? 20 feet at best IMO.

On 10/28/2018 1:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince
George's County cops

Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.


I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range"
moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My
recollection is that many were not very good shots with their sidearms.
The local County Mounties have theirÂ* ownÂ* range in Calvert, and the
public is not invited.Â*


So now you are stereotyping cops as poor shots. How's that?

My guess is that some cops are poor shots, some average and
some much better than the average shooter at the range.

On 10/28/18 1:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince
George's County cops

Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.



In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the realistic
accurate range of a handgun anyway?Â* 20 feet at best IMO.



25 yards with open sights if you are a decent shooter, at least with my
model 686. Here's one with a shorter barrel than the one I have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv4Bqxx25xA

Of course, you have to state what you mean by "accurate" range. I can
still shoot pretty tight groups at 15 yards with my .357.

On 10/28/18 1:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince
George's County cops

Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.


I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range"
moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My
recollection is that many were not very good shots with their
sidearms. The local County Mounties have theirÂ* ownÂ* range in Calvert,
and the public is not invited.Â*


So now you are stereotyping cops as poor shots.Â* How's that?

My guess is that some cops are poor shots, some average and
some much better than the average shooter at the range.



I said "many," I did not say all. Words have meanings.

On 10/28/2018 1:43 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 1:31 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince
George's County cops

Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.


I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range"
moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My
recollection is that many were not very good shots with their
sidearms. The local County Mounties have theirÂ* ownÂ* range in
Calvert, and the public is not invited.Â*


So now you are stereotyping cops as poor shots.Â* How's that?

My guess is that some cops are poor shots, some average and
some much better than the average shooter at the range.



I said "many," I did not say all. Words have meanings.


That's one of your unique talents. You imply something
but always leave yourself an escape route.

On 10/28/2018 1:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 1:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2018 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince
George's County cops

Â*From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.



In an active, serious, shoot or be shot situation, what's the
realistic accurate range of a handgun anyway?Â* 20 feet at best IMO.



25 yards with open sights if you are a decent shooter, at least with my
model 686. Here's one withÂ* a shorter barrel than theÂ* one I have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv4Bqxx25xA

OfÂ* course, you have to state what you mean by "accurate" range. I can
still shoot pretty tight groups at 15 yards with my .357.



How many times have you done that with someone shooting back at you?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:04:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops

From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.

You missed the point entirely.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:38:51 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/28/18 12:00 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/18 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 09:57:33 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/18 10:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:59:25 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:50:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 10/27/18 3:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:12:09 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/24/18 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:43:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Well, I assembled the upper for my new .308, including checking the
headspace with a borrowed "go/no go" kit and pinning the gas tube/block
assembly. Going to drop it off at my buddy the gunsmith's place today
for him to check over my work. Compared to the "bare, naked" lower,
assembling an upper is pretty easy. If the weather sucks this
weekend, I'll start on the lower.


===

If you really want to challenge yourself and impress your gunsmith
friend, build it with an 80% lower.


I don't have the particular skills, drill press and other tools needed
to finish an 80% lower. Besides, the gunsmith buddy is already
impressed with me, because I tutored his kid for three months for free
and helped the kid go from the equivalent of a C- in English to a solid
B and to raise his score more than 100 points on the SAT Reading Test
and Writing and Language Test. I also helped him start to lose his
southern redneck speaking patois and use more standard English.
Hopefully, he will continue developing his skills and put them to
good use in college.


===

If you want to engage in manly pursuits with manly weapons, you should
first acquire some manly tools and skills.

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My "manly skills" are sufficient for the task I've described. I have no
need for a jig or drill press to build an 80% lower, and I don't want to
waste a couple of weeks spraying, heating and curing a durable finish
on the aluminum parts. My goal was to teach myself the innards of a
nice rifle and then shoot it. I'll take your advice for what I think
it is worth, which is, of course, nothing.


"It's always funny when a bankster makes ad hominem remarks."

It's even funnier when the hominem in question responds with more
bull**** to show his 'manliness'.

===

Especially when we all know that the hominem in question is nothing
but a pussy at heart.



I'm not sure a bankster's "research" to redline a neighborhood
qualifies as toughness...it's more like racism. Isn't that what you
did, W'hiner?

===

Not even close but believe what you want. It matters not to me.

I do know however, that if you borrow money from a bank and fail to
pay it back, they will make your life miserable. Isn't that what
happened to you, 'Airree? You should try to get your credit score up
to at least your IQ level, preferably higher. And maybe clean up some
of those outstanding tax liens.


Once again, I have had the *same* good relationship with my current bank
and its several predecessors for decades. It's been such a long time,
I'm not even sure I can remember the name of the original bank before it
was "flipped" several times to new corporate whores.

Oh, btw, how many modern sporting rifles have you assembled from 80%
lowers. I'd bet...none.


Maybe, most of us are not the gun nuts you are. So why build a rifle?



Well, if you want to clean and maintain a modern sporting rifle
properly, it helps to know how it all goes together, and I think
building one is a good teacher. Many of the pieces'n'parts may be
upgraded if you want.

Sort of titillating huh?
Makes your little heart go pitty pat.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:17:27 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/28/18 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 11:01:27 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Yet you were the guy claiming he could outshoot all those Prince George's County cops

From my experience street cops are not that good a shot. You only have
to look at their real life performance. They seem to hit the target
with 10% or fewer shots fired and that is usually at "belly gun"
range.
My cop buddies say they are not much better on the range.


I don't see that many uniformed PG cops anymore since the "cop range"
moved. Maybe they are using the military range next to Andrews. My
recollection is that many were not very good shots with their sidearms.
The local County Mounties have their own range in Calvert, and the
public is not invited.

We used to see lots of cops out at that range near 450 and the
Beltway. That was the first place I saw an Uzi and a MAC10.
(Both junk IMHO)