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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?


I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And
fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was
the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument
Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.

High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM
to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do
it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for
Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM
unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.


NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position.
They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They
did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month
expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent
was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps
rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the
Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they
never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator
for the NCR systems as backup.

IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay
taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy
going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats.
He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up
with enough to buy a house when he got back.


I wonder if he was a local to me guy. We had an IBM in country rep in my
reserve unit. E3 in reserves but in Vietnam he was equivalent of Lt.C for
access. Do not know how name. Was only at the unit one summer camp.

He was from the midwest somewhere but I don't remember where. I doubt
2 1/2 years salary would buy a house in California in 1970.

I had the same kind of thing when I went to Gitmo with IBM. I was
living in the Aviation Officers Club, I had an enlisted man ID and my
escort/driver was an E5 so I could go just about anywhere I wanted.

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Justine giggles....
Snip...
"Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to war
zones?"



Say what?
Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"?
How about Lt Co's?
What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:46:28 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?


I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And
fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was
the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument
Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.

High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM
to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do
it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for
Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM
unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.

I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.



Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must
have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for
missing bodies.


Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure
no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were
sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three
beers for the year.

If, as you say, you don't do drugs, how do you come up with the totally outlandish stories you
enthrall yourself with?

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:54:14 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/4/18 2:22 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:21:24 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?


I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And
fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was
the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument
Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.

High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM
to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do
it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for
Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM
unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.


NCR was looking for an in country rep. My co-worker took the position.
They had NCR 500 computers at each fire base for inventory control. They
did not offer enough money, offered a 50% pay increase and $300 a month
expense money. Don said they had to raise the expense money as the rent
was higher. He probably knew the IBM rep, as it seemed all the reps
rented half a retired VN generals villa. He was there for TET, and the
Saigon attack was on the villa side. The generals wife was happy as they
never lost power at the villa as they installed one of the spare generator
for the NCR systems as backup.

IBM gave you 66% and the assignment was 18 months so you didn't pay
taxes. Expenses were actual and reasonable but they were pretty easy
going on it. He could also eat at the GI mess hall by paying ComRats.
He said he ended up pretty much banking all of the salary. He ended up
with enough to buy a house when he got back.



During the 1950s, one of my dad's buddies of Italian extraction who was
an engineer at Sikorsky not far down the road from the boat store was
seconded to the Italian government to help it learn copter mechanics and
maintenance. He spent two years in Italy, was given a villa and servants
and a car and driver and a generous monthly living allowance. He banked
his US salary. This was still post WW II Italy, and life there for an
America ex-pat, even a temporary one, was pretty easy. I know this
because he sent my dad postcards describing how much fun he was having,
and when he returned, he took us out to dinner and afterwards, we got to
watch his "home movies." What a gig and, I'd bet, a lot sweeter than
being in Vietnam.

And you say you don't do drugs. Where does this **** come from?

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Soze

On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:*
Keyser Soze wrote:*
wrote:*
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill*
wrote:*
*
Keyser Soze wrote:*
*
I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?*
*
*
I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. *MAW. *And*
fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. *Also was*
the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument*
Landing System. *Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.*
*
High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM*
to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do*
it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for*
Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM*
unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.*
*
I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.*
*
*
*
Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? *You must*
have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for*
missing bodies.*
*

"Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure*
no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were*
sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three*
beers for the year."



Well said!
I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post.

....and any of his posts that denigrate your religious beliefs, eh Donna?

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 12:34:48 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Back on closer to topic, for a moment, anyway...

I swapped out the stock A2 compensator on my .308 for one marketed by
Jerry Miculek, and it does seem to cut back on muzzle flip for sure and
maybe on perceived recoil, too. The fire and brimstone coming out of it,
however, seem greater than with the A2, but that may be because of
different lighting, background, et cetera.

Miculek's distributor is named...wait for it... BANG, Inc. at 310
Shootout Lane in Louisiana, east of Shreveport. :) It is the home of
Clark Custom Guns, a company with which I've done a little bit of
business some years ago. :)


More drug interactions?

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:46:35 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 8/4/18 12:21 AM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 19:31:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?


I stayed in the states assigned to a military airlift wing. MAW. And
fixed airborne radar units from the transports most of the time. Also was
the ILS trained guy, but never had to work on the ground based Instrument
Landing System. Unlike you, going to Vietnam as a high paid contractor.

High paid contractor? I never heard that story. I did try to get IBM
to send me there for a while and the pay was good but they wouldn't do
it. That was probably a good thing because I would have been there for
Tet. I did room with a guy in Chicago who did go through Tet in an IBM
unit in Danang and he said it was ugly.

I figured Bilious was high again and just ignored that comment.



Why do you assume I am a drunk or druggie like you and Donnie? You must
have been a high paid consultant with your education to go search for
missing bodies.


Why? Because of the semi-literate right-wing nonsense you post. I figure
no one could be as ****ed in the head as you seem to be if they were
sober. Oh, I don't drink seriously or do drugs. I've had one of my three
beers for the year.


Right wing? Only fiscally. And anybody that prevaricates and lies as
much you do is either nuts, drugged or drunk.

quote by Donna:

Well said!
I agree wholeheartedly and unequivocally with this post.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justine giggles....
Snip...
"Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to war
zones?"



Say what?
Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"?
How about Lt Co's?
What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam.

If Harry went to Vietnam and 'worked' for a general, it was surely as a 'boy toy'.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 10:59:25 -0600 (MDT), justan wrote:

John H. Wrote in message:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 14:30:09 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/3/18 1:53 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 01:18:40 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 13:09:03 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 12:41:06 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:04:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/1/2018 9:50 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:46:44 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 13:50:39 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:59:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range
(indoors).
.........

I still can?t figure out that ruling.

Sparks.

Sparks? Really? In a place with massive muzzle blasts.

Yes. Really. No reason to **** you.


What are the sparks going to do that a dragons breath of flame 6 feet
long won't do?


As previously mentioned, a spark (as a source of ignition) can be much
hotter than a flame.


It is still unclear what is going to catch on fire.

===

Like you said, probably nothing, but some range folks have seized on
that as a secondary reason. The potential for backstop damage and
ricochet risk are no doubt first and foremost. Also, they can
probably get more for their recycled lead as an additional economic
reason.

I don't even think recycling the lead has anything to do with it
because when they smelt the lead, the steel and copper will float up
to the top to be skimmed off. My bullet making buddy did this all the
time when he was making bullets from scrap lead.
As I said earlier, the design of the trap mitigates ricochets. They
all ricochet into the belly of the trap.
I still say, it is just to protect his investment in the trap.
I know I chipped the 1/2" steel plates in mine when I was shooting
something too "hot" and that was just copper over lead. I am sure the
BiMetal is a bit harder than that.
I do wonder how much sparking you really get tho because that metal is
not really that hard. You can bugger it up quite a bit just grabbing
it with pliers to pull the bullet out. I usually think of sparks with
flint and hardened steel, like as hard as a file.

Russian 9MM BiMetal bullet
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Tula%209mm%20bullet.jpg


When I got shot in the service was a ricochet from a 38 off the target
frame. Outdoor police range in Novato near the base. Base had a rifle
range.

===

Did you get a Purple Heart or is that just for combat? A friend of
mine got a Purple Heart for what he claims was an accidental
discharge.


I think is only a combat injury. Or combat owie according to Mr. Heinz.

There were stories about guys in Vietnam getting a purple heart for a
C ration can cut.


Mr. Kerry?


I forgot...what did you do in Vietnam during that war?


The bigger question is what did Fat Harry do in Viet nam during
that war?

Spent his time hiding in his basement learning how to lie and enthrall boys such as Donna.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:Â*

Justine giggles....Â*
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"Were generals even alllowed to bring their boy toys to warÂ*
zones?"Â*
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Say what?Â*
Was it common practice for US Army generals to have "boy toys"?Â*
How about Lt Co's?Â*
What an army...no wonder y'all were run out of Viet Nam.Â*

"If Harry went to Vietnam and 'worked' for a general, it was surely as a 'boy toy'."Â*



Guess y'all would be the expert on "boy toys"!
How many did you abuse over there?