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Mr. Luddite[_4_] May 15th 18 12:00 PM

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On 5/14/2018 10:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 22:08:59 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:35:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Not necessarily regional food but the area we wintered in in Florida
(Jupiter) was populated with many very good restaurants. Several
were owned and/or operated by people who previously had high end and
well known restaurants in New York City and other areas of the
country. When they retired to Florida they opened smaller versions
of their "up north" places and some were very, very good.


I ran into that, by accident, in Clearwater Beach. There is an Italian
restaurant right there where you come off the bridge on the south end
in a strip mall. They are transplanted New Yorkers and they brought
their recipe book ;-)


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You don't have to go as far as Clearwater. There's an Italian
restaurant in Ft Myers called Cibo that rivals anything in NY.



There's a small Italian place called "Giuseppe's Italian Restaurant" on
Indiantown Rd. in Jupiter that we visited often. Family run, authentic
Italian cuisine and very reasonably priced.

Best experience we had at an Italian restaurant was in ... well, Italy.
I had a leave from the Navy and we packed up the little Fiat 850 Spyder
and took a road trip. We stopped for dinner at an inviting restaurant
that had a high stone wall with a permanently opened iron gate, both
covered with overgrown vines. Mrs.E. and I went in but discovered they
were not open yet and the Italian family than ran it (probably four
generations) were seated at a big table having their dinner. They gave
us a table anyway, explained they would serve us as soon as they
finished and gave us some wine and bread in the meantime. I watched
the head of household .... older Italian guy ... as he ate. In
Italian style, he had a big jug of wine that he'd lift onto his
shoulder, holding it in place with his finger in the jug's handle ring
and take a big swallow of the wine. Cracked me up because that's
exactly how Mrs.E's father used to drink wine when he was alive.

The pizza joints in Italy were very different than here in the states.
They were prepared with a minimal amount of cheese and lots of veggies,
etc. Then the pizza was doused with oil and put in a brick oven with
a wood fire. It was only cooked for about a minute, removed, folded
in half and held up for a few seconds to let the excess oil drip out.
Good stuff.





Keyser Soze May 15th 18 02:38 PM

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On 5/15/18 6:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/14/2018 10:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 22:15:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2018 20:37:50 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:26:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/14/18 6:19 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 17:15:08 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 15:25:37 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/14/18 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 09:56:21 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/14/18 8:43 AM, Tim wrote:

7:03 AMKeyser Soze
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18 hours? That's really, too too too funny. Idle hands and
idle minds.

........


Harry, depending on what you want. cooking a 200 lb whole
hog can take 18-24 hrs.


That's just wonderful, Tim, but it begs the question, why
would I want
to cook a "200 lb whole hog"?

I understand, you would need to have a lot of friends.


There are plenty of places to buy cooked pig around here. I
have sampled
the offering of several, and found them pretty good. The first
time I
ever had pulled pork or ribs was in Kansas City, at Bryant's,
considered
by many to be the best of the best. Ate there at least every
other week,
so I know what properly done pork and beer are supposed to
taste like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bryant%27s

Of course, I'm sure in No-Wheres-Ville, Florida, where you
live, has
many epicurean delights to offer.

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Well aren't you the elitist little twerp.Â* I'm shocked.


Never read that lower SW Florida was known for any really special
food
dishes.Â* Kansas City is known for terrific barbecue and of course
steaks
and sweet corn ?

===

That just goes to show that you don't know what you don't know.


I've been to SW Florida. Lots of good seafood, especially shrimp,
but I
don't recall anything strongly regional to the point where I might
say,
"yeah, that's SW Florida cuisine at its best."

===

Nice try at escape and evasion, but, your original assertion is as
follows: "Of course, I'm sure in No-Wheres-Ville, Florida, where you
live, has many epicurean delights to offer."

Aside from your awkward sentence construction, it turns out that SWFL
has many first class restaurants, some offering regional specialties,
some traditional.Â* Having lived and dined in the New York metro area
for many years, I've sampled some of the best.

Harry just thinks if it is not near wherever he is at the time it is
sub standard.


===


Airree's standard modus operandi is to put down anyone or anything not
in conformance with his exaggerated world view.Â* It helps him feed his
inflated ego, which of course is compensation for his feelings of
inferiority and inadequacy.Â* What a sorry existence.



What is really sad is that I don't think he realizes how he comes across
to people with his comments.Â* He has an elitist air about him and it
seems nothing he does or likes has faults.Â* When was the last time he
posted anything about making a mistake?Â*Â* Normal people have no problem
admitting to goofs or making a poor choice once in a while.




Please. This place is a right-wing sewer. "He that is without sin among
you, let him cast the first stone..." Well, neither of you are without
sin in regard to your behavior here, so perhaps you should stop casting
stones.

Tim May 15th 18 02:56 PM

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Keyser Soze
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Please. This place is a right-wing sewer.

.........


Then Harry, why do you have your faced buried in it. Do you enjoy being on the receiving end of the daily flushies?

Keyser Soze May 15th 18 03:00 PM

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On 5/15/18 9:56 AM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
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Please. This place is a right-wing sewer.

........


Then Harry, why do you have your faced buried in it. Do you enjoy being on the receiving end of the daily flushies?


Wait...you think I give a **** about what passes for thought or comment
among you righties? Perhaps your thinking mechanism needs rebuilding.

Tim May 15th 18 03:18 PM

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9:00 AMKeyser Soze
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Wait...you think I give a **** about what passes for thought or comment
among you righties?

..............

Of course you do. That’s why you’re here on aminutely basis.. Why else would an agnostic socialist like you even think of being here? I know it’s not for the rec. talk.

Keyser Soze May 15th 18 05:58 PM

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On 5/15/18 10:18 AM, Tim wrote:

9:00 AMKeyser Soze
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Wait...you think I give a **** about what passes for thought or comment
among you righties?

.............

Of course you do. That’s why you’re here on aminutely basis. Why else would an agnostic socialist like you even think of being here? I know it’s not for the rec. talk.


For grins, Tim, for grins. Nothing else. :)

John H.[_5_] May 15th 18 06:01 PM

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On Fri, 11 May 2018 14:43:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/11/2018 10:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re
correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I
also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)


Absurd. I made a roast last week in my Instant Pot. Browned the roast first
in the Pot with a bit of oil and garlic. Easy-peasy. I'm not a beef lover,
but I do like it about once a month.



Translation:

I realized how much of an ass I made of myself in my previous post, so
I'll try to be "one of the guys".


Thanks, that was needed.

John H.[_5_] May 15th 18 06:07 PM

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On Mon, 14 May 2018 08:03:34 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/14/18 12:37 AM, Bill wrote:
Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
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Naw. I'm really not very very interested in what passes for epicurean
delights between you and FilthyJohn. Unbigly. I'm not saying that
because I have exotic taste in foods. I don't. I prefer seafood and
chicken/turkey to beouf, but I do eat beef products every few weeks or
at least once a month. I had a kosher hot dog last week.

.........

I like swapping recipes with about anyone. Especially if it’s simple.
John cooks some great stuff and takes his Cooking seriously. I really
enjoy his recipes and he likes the ones I send him. To us, there’s more
to life than politics.


Easier than last nights dinner. Group of us were camping, annual get
together, normally with abalone and diving. But abalone closed this year.
We chipped in and one of the guys did a pit roast of a a 250# porker.
Wrapped in some fruit and banana leaves, 1.5cord of oak, and 18 hours.
Very tasty. Not quick, not cheap. $850 for porky. And about $1150 total.


You should have sent someone out for pulled pork sandwiches. We have a
pretty good local restaurant that does a great job with ribs and pulled
pork, and sells a first class overstuff pulled pork sandwich for $8 with
fries and coleslaw. There's enough pork in the order for two sandwiches.

18 hours? That's really, too too too funny. Idle hands and idle minds.


For $8, I can make a half dozen really good pulled pork sandwiches. Would much rather eat it on the
plate. Fewer calories and carbs, but they obviously don't bother you.

And, obviously, you've never been lucky enought to experience a pit cooked pig. You've no idea what
you're missing.

John H.[_5_] May 15th 18 06:13 PM

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On Mon, 14 May 2018 10:55:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/14/2018 10:43 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/14/18 10:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/14/2018 10:00 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/14/18 9:47 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 May 2018 09:01:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/14/2018 8:43 AM, Tim wrote:

7:03 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text

18 hours? That's really, too too too funny. Idle hands and idle
minds.

........


Harry, depending on what you want. cooking a 200 lb whole hog can
take 18-24 hrs.

Why might learn something by putting* down the Allen Ginsberg
poetry book and get back into reality.

https://amazingribs.com/tested-recip...-you-need-know





When we were stationed in Puerto Rico we had a pork roast.
Someone got
the pig, slaughtered it and stuck it on a pole draining overnight
in the
corner of the transmitter building we worked in.* Meanwhile, a pit was
constructed outside for the fire/embers.** My contribution was to
design
and construct a heavy duty rotisserie to hold the pig over the pit.

I made a heavy duty steel frame and used one of the electric motors
and
gear heads that were used to tune the inductor coils in the big,
100,000
watt HF transmitters.* Worked great and rotated the pig at just the
right speed.

I forget exactly how many hours it took to cook it but I think it was
around 24 hours.



Harry would have just microwaved in over one of those transmitters
;-)

Naw, I simply would have gotten a local Puerto Rican restaurant to
prepare the meal.


And fed 50 people and their families?

Oh, I see.* I got mine.* Screw you.



There are some terrific Puerto Rican recipes for pork. I was introduced
to them by the sister of a high school friend. She married a Puerto
Rican and moved to the island. Tried a number of pork dishes at several
of the local restaurants in their town and in her kitchen.

https://thenoshery.com/roasted-perni...an-roast-pork/



When we lived in Puerto Rico (off base) our next door neighbors were
super nice to Mrs.E. and I, often inviting us over for home cooked
traditional Puerto Rican dishes. They were older, retired and
she was a fantastic cook. Got to try things that I'll probably
never see or hear of again. It was fun and they were awesome people.


Miguel Mendez's mom would fix Puerto Rican rice and beans daily. They lived across the street from
us in Isabella. Of course I'd eat lunch over there just about every day. Miguel was my best friend.

I've tried, very unsuccessfully, to make rice and beans taste like hers. Never succeeded. The secret
is in the sofrito, and the stuff sold in stores doesn't come close.

John H.[_5_] May 15th 18 06:14 PM

Chuck Roast
 
On Mon, 14 May 2018 10:51:17 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/14/18 10:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/14/2018 9:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/14/18 8:43 AM, Tim wrote:

7:03 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text

18 hours? That's really, too too too funny. Idle hands and idle minds.

........


Harry, depending on what you want. cooking a 200 lb whole hog can
take 18-24 hrs.



That's just wonderful, Tim, but it begs the question, why would I want
to cook a "200 lb whole hog"?



No friends to share it with?



We usually have two big lawn parties a year here, one in early June and
the other just before labor day, and about 50 friends attend one or the
other or even both. Seafood at one, beef, pork, and chicken at the
other. I rent a "big grill on wheels" for the "meat" party, and for the
seafood one, we cook on our gas grill and stovetop and one of our
neighbors rolls over his big outdoor gas grill. Seems sufficient.
Sometimes we rent a big tent...and the tent rental place sets it up for
us and takes it down the next day. No, I wouldn't mess with a "200 lb
whole hog" under those or any other circumstances.


Triple the number of attendees, and you may find it worthwhile. But, don't try it yourself.


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