Chuck Roast
 

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

Chuck Roast
 

John H. Wrote in message:
Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!


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Lol! Eh Chuck has been doing that to himself for years. He doesn’t need Johns help... 😉

Chuck Roast
 

On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

Chuck Roast
 

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

Chuck Roast
 

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:19:46 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

yessir it was. I'm making it Thursday for a group of company.

Chuck Roast
 

On Tue, 08 May 2018 21:16:18 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

That was in a different recipe. The Mongolian stuff. I'll try it next. This recipe uses no
cornstarch.

Chuck Roast
 

On Tue, 8 May 2018 20:19:44 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

That's what this one was. Will try the Mongolian one next.

Chuck Roast
 

On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:19:46 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

yessir it was. I'm making it Thursday for a group of company.

Get a big chuck roast - 5lbs or more.

Chuck Roast
 

John H
On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:19:46 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

yessir it was. I'm making it Thursday for a group of company.

Get a big chuck roast - 5lbs or more.


.........

Around here it’s hard to find one over 3-1/2#

I suppose I could get 2- 2.5 roasts and work with that.

Chuck Roast
 

On Wed, 9 May 2018 10:56:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:19:46 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

yessir it was. I'm making it Thursday for a group of company.

Get a big chuck roast - 5lbs or more.


........

Around here it’s hard to find one over 3-1/2#

I suppose I could get 2- 2.5 roasts and work with that.

Ask the meat guy, or buy two small ones.

Chuck Roast
 

1:17 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Ask the meat guy, or buy two small ones.

That’s what I mean. The local will cut you what you want but you have to call ahead. Walmart, you get what you get.

Two roasts less than 3 lb each ought to do the job.

Chuck Roast
 

On Wed, 9 May 2018 11:23:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


1:17 PMJohn H
- show quoted text -
Ask the meat guy, or buy two small ones.

That’s what I mean. The local will cut you what you want but you have to call ahead. Walmart, you get what you get.

Two roasts less than 3 lb each ought to do the job.

That's what I'd do too!

Chuck Roast
 

On Wed, 9 May 2018 10:56:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John H
On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 10:19:46 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:16:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 08 May 2018 17:01:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Tim's recipe was super. The roast came out about like any crock potted chuck roast, but the gravy
made with the drippings was spectacular. Made a roux using some flour and fat from the pot, then
poured in the rest of the liquid. Great on mashed potatoes - fixed separately from the roast.

Thanks, Tim!!

I thought the corn starch was supposed to thicken the stuff in the
pot.

I think it was his french onion soup chuck roast recipe from last month.

yessir it was. I'm making it Thursday for a group of company.

Get a big chuck roast - 5lbs or more.


........

Around here it’s hard to find one over 3-1/2#

I suppose I could get 2- 2.5 roasts and work with that.

Usually if you ring the bell and ask the meat man they will cut any
size roast you want. That just won't fly out of the case so they don't
package them up that big.

Chuck Roast
 

John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!

Chuck Roast
 

On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:28:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!

The gravy keeps. Goes well with rice also.

Chuck Roast
 

5:11 AMJohn H
On Thu, 10 May 2018 18:28:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!

The gravy keeps. Goes well with rice also.


......

I’ll find. Use for it. It won’t get thrown out. 😋

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

Chuck Roast
 

7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

..........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

Chuck Roast
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)

Chuck Roast
 

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you?re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?


What's your point Fat Harry? Are you saying John shouldn't post a
recipie that the essence thereof can be found elsewhere?
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs 🤢🤮makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)

——

😆😆😆😆

Chuck Roast
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 08:10:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs ??makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)

——

????
Vegan food Tofu burgers No meat hot dogs

Chuck Roast
 

ol.com
On Fri, 11 May 2018 08:10:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


- show quoted text -
That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs ??makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)

——

????
Vegan food Tofu burgers No meat hot dogs

............


I knew what you were saying Greg. Those question marks were supposed to be iPhone funny little faces.
I’ll remember not to do that . Lol!

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/11/2018 8:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re
correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I
also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?


Translation:

These recipe posts bore me because *I* have no interest in them.

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/11/2018 10:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re
correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I
also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)


Absurd. I made a roast last week in my Instant Pot. Browned the roast first
in the Pot with a bit of oil and garlic. Easy-peasy. I'm not a beef lover,
but I do like it about once a month.



Translation:

I realized how much of an ass I made of myself in my previous post, so
I'll try to be "one of the guys".

Chuck Roast
 

1:42 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Translation:

These recipe posts bore me because *I* have no interest in them.

..........

Yep! Aaaaand, I want to say only stupid people post them...

Chuck Roast
 

1:43 PMMr. Luddite
On 5/11/2018 10:56 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re
correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I
also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

That is just the babble that comes out of someone on a meat restricted
diet. The constant consumption of Tofurgers and Notdogs makes you a
little incoherent sometimes ;-)


Absurd. I made a roast last week in my Instant Pot. Browned the roast first
in the Pot with a bit of oil and garlic. Easy-peasy. I'm not a beef lover,
but I do like it about once a month.



Translation:

I realized how much of an ass I made of myself in my previous post, so
I'll try to be "one of the guys".


,,,,,,,,,,,,

HAHAHAHAHA !!!

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/11/18 2:45 PM, Tim wrote:

1:42 PMMr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
Translation:

These recipe posts bore me because *I* have no interest in them.

.........

Yep! Aaaaand, I want to say only stupid people post them...


I have little or no interest in any of the posts of Herring and, these
days, Tim's are about as dull. There was nothing special about the
recipe under discussion here.

Chuck Roast
 

2:03 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I have little or no interest in any of the posts of Herring and, these
days, Tim's are about as dull. There was nothing special about the
recipe under discussion here.

..........


Is that because our posts don’t support goose-stepping socialisism?

Chuck Roast
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 13:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


2:03 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I have little or no interest in any of the posts of Herring and, these
days, Tim's are about as dull. There was nothing special about the
recipe under discussion here.

.........


Is that because our posts don’t support goose-stepping socialisism?

===

'Airree's party of choice relies on a dependent electorate. The more
dependent they are on government services, the more likely they are to
continue the status quo. What's in it for 'Airree?? Good question,
but I suspect he views it as revenge against a system which never
properly acknowledged his superiority over ordinary mortals, sort of a
narcissist's lament.

Chuck Roast
 

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-4, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 13:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


2:03 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I have little or no interest in any of the posts of Herring and, these
days, Tim's are about as dull. There was nothing special about the
recipe under discussion here.

.........


Is that because our posts don’t support goose-stepping socialisism?

===

'Airree's party of choice relies on a dependent electorate. The more
dependent they are on government services, the more likely they are to
continue the status quo. What's in it for 'Airree?? Good question,
but I suspect he views it as revenge against a system which never
properly acknowledged his superiority over ordinary mortals, sort of a
narcissist's lament.

Day-yum. That was some scorching commentary.

Chuck Roast
 

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:57:16 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

He was trying to say that out of the hundreds of recipes, half are below average. Of the ones that are above, most have too much salt, garlic, black pepper, etc. Of the final few, there are several that are actually really good. It's nice to find one that's worth keeping.

I suppose if you have taste buds dulled by being a fat head ignoramus like Airee eating doctor prescribed tofu, any one would do, eh? :)

Chuck Roast
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:56:57 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:57:16 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

He was trying to say that out of the hundreds of recipes, half are below average. Of the ones that are above, most have too much salt, garlic, black pepper, etc. Of the final few, there are several that are actually really good. It's nice to find one that's worth keeping.

I suppose if you have taste buds dulled by being a fat head ignoramus like Airee eating doctor prescribed tofu, any one would do, eh? :)

===

A fat head ignoramus should ESAD as Airree himself used to be so fond
of saying. I believe he actually went by that moniker at one time.

Chuck Roast
 

On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:47:40 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-4, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 13:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


2:03 PMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
I have little or no interest in any of the posts of Herring and, these
days, Tim's are about as dull. There was nothing special about the
recipe under discussion here.

.........


Is that because our posts don’t support goose-stepping socialisism?

===

'Airree's party of choice relies on a dependent electorate. The more
dependent they are on government services, the more likely they are to
continue the status quo. What's in it for 'Airree?? Good question,
but I suspect he views it as revenge against a system which never
properly acknowledged his superiority over ordinary mortals, sort of a
narcissist's lament.

Day-yum. That was some scorching commentary.

===

Well thank you. :-)

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/11/18 10:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2018 18:56:57 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 9:57:16 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
7:44 AMKeyser Soze
On 5/10/18 9:28 PM, Tim wrote:
John you were right. It made a whole lot of gravy. I think you’re correct when you say double the roast with the same ingredients. And I also need to double up on the mashed potatoes.

Man that was good!


Because there aren't more than 5000 similar or identical recipes for
this on You Tube, eh?

.........

What? Speak coherently, Harry...

He was trying to say that out of the hundreds of recipes, half are below average. Of the ones that are above, most have too much salt, garlic, black pepper, etc. Of the final few, there are several that are actually really good. It's nice to find one that's worth keeping.

I suppose if you have taste buds dulled by being a fat head ignoramus like Airee eating doctor prescribed tofu, any one would do, eh? :)

===

A fat head ignoramus should ESAD as Airree himself used to be so fond
of saying. I believe he actually went by that moniker at one time.


ESAD actually was the recipe I thought more of you would and should
enjoy. Rec.Boats...so many right-wing turds in one bowl, eh?

Gosh, a recipe for a roast cooked in a pot, and served with mashed
potatoes. Who would have thunk it? Of the hundreds of published, four to
five star recipes for basically the same dish, by the way, determining
which are the good ones is strictly a matter of taste. "Too much salt,
garlic, black pepper, et cetera," is the epitome of "taste."

Chuck Roast
 

6:52 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
ESAD actually was the recipe I thought more of you would and should
enjoy. Rec.Boats...so many right-wing turds in one bowl, eh?

Gosh, a recipe for a roast cooked in a pot, and served with mashed
potatoes. Who would have thunk it? Of the hundreds of published, four to
five star recipes for basically the same dish, by the way, determining
which are the good ones is strictly a matter of taste. "Too much salt,
garlic, black pepper, et cetera," is the epitome of "taste."

.......


It got posted because it was quick, simple, and tasty. And I’m sure there’s plenty of 5 Star eatery’s that do the same thing tand call it something exotic like “il brasatoâ€� or “rôti Ã* la cocotteâ€� or something similar.

Maybe next time I’ll do that and you’ll really think you got something special...

Chuck Roast
 

On 5/12/18 8:27 AM, Tim wrote:

6:52 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
ESAD actually was the recipe I thought more of you would and should
enjoy. Rec.Boats...so many right-wing turds in one bowl, eh?

Gosh, a recipe for a roast cooked in a pot, and served with mashed
potatoes. Who would have thunk it? Of the hundreds of published, four to
five star recipes for basically the same dish, by the way, determining
which are the good ones is strictly a matter of taste. "Too much salt,
garlic, black pepper, et cetera," is the epitome of "taste."

......


It got posted because it was quick, simple, and tasty. And I’m sure there’s plenty of 5 Star eatery’s that do the same thing tand call it something exotic like “il brasatoâ€� or “rôti Ã* la cocotteâ€� or something similar.

Maybe next time I’ll do that and you’ll really think you got something special...


Naw. I'm really not very very interested in what passes for epicurean
delights between you and FilthyJohn. Unbigly. I'm not saying that
because I have exotic taste in foods. I don't. I prefer seafood and
chicken/turkey to beouf, but I do eat beef products every few weeks or
at least once a month. I had a kosher hot dog last week.

Chuck Roast
 

Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Naw. I'm really not very very interested in what passes for epicurean
delights between you and FilthyJohn. Unbigly. I'm not saying that
because I have exotic taste in foods. I don't. I prefer seafood and
chicken/turkey to beouf, but I do eat beef products every few weeks or
at least once a month. I had a kosher hot dog last week.

..........

I like swapping recipes with about anyone. Especially if it’s simple. John cooks some great stuff and takes his Cooking seriously. I really enjoy his recipes and he likes the ones I send him. To us, there’s more to life than politics.

Chuck Roast
 

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Naw. I'm really not very very interested in what passes for epicurean
delights between you and FilthyJohn. Unbigly. I'm not saying that
because I have exotic taste in foods. I don't. I prefer seafood and
chicken/turkey to beouf, but I do eat beef products every few weeks or
at least once a month. I had a kosher hot dog last week.

.........

I like swapping recipes with about anyone. Especially if it’s simple.
John cooks some great stuff and takes his Cooking seriously. I really
enjoy his recipes and he likes the ones I send him. To us, there’s more
to life than politics.


Easier than last nights dinner. Group of us were camping, annual get
together, normally with abalone and diving. But abalone closed this year.
We chipped in and one of the guys did a pit roast of a a 250# porker.
Wrapped in some fruit and banana leaves, 1.5cord of oak, and 18 hours.
Very tasty. Not quick, not cheap. $850 for porky. And about $1150 total.