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Yo Greg..The Navy and I agree
Russia seems like a threat to more than just me. Hopefully the Navy and I are wrong.
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Yo Greg..The Navy and I agree
On Sat, 05 May 2018 12:04:29 -0400, John H.
wrote: Russia seems like a threat to more than just me. Hopefully the Navy and I are wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1I52CJ .... or it is just the military industrial complex feathering their nest. Harry is right about one thing. In a real war with the russians, our surface fleet will last a few days. Zumwalt said that a couple decades ago and it is still true. We can certainly **** up some 3d worlders tho ;-) |
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Yo Greg..The Navy and I agree
On Sat, 5 May 2018 13:41:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/5/2018 1:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 05 May 2018 12:04:29 -0400, John H. wrote: Russia seems like a threat to more than just me. Hopefully the Navy and I are wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1I52CJ ... or it is just the military industrial complex feathering their nest. Harry is right about one thing. In a real war with the russians, our surface fleet will last a few days. Zumwalt said that a couple decades ago and it is still true. We can certainly **** up some 3d worlders tho ;-) I don't know how you know that unless it's a nuclear war and then all bets are off for both sides. We still hold a very significant technical advantage over Russian naval capabilities. That said though, the Russians have demonstrated a tenacity in past wars that few can match. Naval surface vessels, particularly a flotilla like a CBG are easily spotted and tracked. They don't really move that fast and they can be targeted from pretty far away. I know we have capabilities but if someone launches enough $50,000 missiles at you billion dollar carrier, some will get through. Of course there are always the subs too. I don't know how many submariners you knew but they all call surface vessels "targets". In a war with a super power, surface vessels are fighting the last war. I agree they are great for projecting power into the 3d world tho and if that is what we think we need, go for it. |
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Yo Greg..The Navy and I agree
On Sat, 05 May 2018 15:18:11 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2018 13:41:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/5/2018 1:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 05 May 2018 12:04:29 -0400, John H. wrote: Russia seems like a threat to more than just me. Hopefully the Navy and I are wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1I52CJ ... or it is just the military industrial complex feathering their nest. Harry is right about one thing. In a real war with the russians, our surface fleet will last a few days. Zumwalt said that a couple decades ago and it is still true. We can certainly **** up some 3d worlders tho ;-) I don't know how you know that unless it's a nuclear war and then all bets are off for both sides. We still hold a very significant technical advantage over Russian naval capabilities. That said though, the Russians have demonstrated a tenacity in past wars that few can match. Naval surface vessels, particularly a flotilla like a CBG are easily spotted and tracked. They don't really move that fast and they can be targeted from pretty far away. I know we have capabilities but if someone launches enough $50,000 missiles at you billion dollar carrier, some will get through. Of course there are always the subs too. I don't know how many submariners you knew but they all call surface vessels "targets". In a war with a super power, surface vessels are fighting the last war. I agree they are great for projecting power into the 3d world tho and if that is what we think we need, go for it. Your cheap missiles will be fired from what - another flotilla? |
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Yo Greg..The Navy and I agree
On Sat, 05 May 2018 15:23:38 -0400, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 05 May 2018 15:18:11 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 5 May 2018 13:41:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 5/5/2018 1:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 05 May 2018 12:04:29 -0400, John H. wrote: Russia seems like a threat to more than just me. Hopefully the Navy and I are wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1I52CJ ... or it is just the military industrial complex feathering their nest. Harry is right about one thing. In a real war with the russians, our surface fleet will last a few days. Zumwalt said that a couple decades ago and it is still true. We can certainly **** up some 3d worlders tho ;-) I don't know how you know that unless it's a nuclear war and then all bets are off for both sides. We still hold a very significant technical advantage over Russian naval capabilities. That said though, the Russians have demonstrated a tenacity in past wars that few can match. Naval surface vessels, particularly a flotilla like a CBG are easily spotted and tracked. They don't really move that fast and they can be targeted from pretty far away. I know we have capabilities but if someone launches enough $50,000 missiles at you billion dollar carrier, some will get through. Of course there are always the subs too. I don't know how many submariners you knew but they all call surface vessels "targets". In a war with a super power, surface vessels are fighting the last war. I agree they are great for projecting power into the 3d world tho and if that is what we think we need, go for it. Your cheap missiles will be fired from what - another flotilla? subs |
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