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On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 09:21:45 -0500, John H.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:17:49 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/16/18 9:43 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/16/2018 9:01 AM, Justan Ohlphart wrote:
On 2/16/2018 8:01 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/16/18 7:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

News reports now indicate that it was well known that Cruz was a
messed up kid and has a history of treatment at a mental health
facility. He told police "the Demons made me do it".

Lot of good the shrinks/therapists did for him or the 17 people
who died at the school in Florida Wednesday.


You don't know why he was referred for treatment.
You don't know if he was Baker-acted.
You don't know what his evaluation was.
You don't know what sort of treatment he received.
You don't know how many treatment sessions he received.
You don't know the credentials of whoever treated him.
You don't know if there was appropriate follow-up.

You don't know ****.

But you continue to give cover to Trump.

Do you know if the shrinkers alerted the authorities about the sicko
and his demons? There seems to be some criminal negligence going on
regarding mental health facilities. Should we put some heads on
pikes, eh, Fat Harry?



May as well let Harry back out of the Bozo Bin so I can directly
defend myself from his accusations.

It doesn't matter if I or anyone else has knowledge of every detail
available to us to form an opinion .... and that's all I've done. I
understand Harry's sensitivity to this subject and I've never been
critical of his wife's profession or of the mental health profession
in general. All I've said is that it's not well understood,
something that even those who practice in the profession acknowledge.
We can see it often right now as the Florida shootings are discussed
by shrinks in interviews. When pressed for reasons Cruz acted as he
did, they can only speculate and admit that the actions of people
with mental health issues are not always clear or understood from a
psychiatric point of view. Lots of theories, that's all.

But to say that I or anyone else "don't know ****" about the subject
is just another one of Harry's "I am better than you, smarter than
you" attitudes that he has demonstrated in this newsgroup for over 20
years.

Geeze ... talk about mental health issues.




I don't know anyone in the biz who has ever claimed mental health
issues are completely understood. It is also true that very little
about the particulars of the mental health issues or treatment of Mr.
Cruz have been released. Most mental health issues, however, do not
manifest themselves in the ways those of Mr. Cruz has, assuming he
does have mental health issues. Many, maybe most people with serious
mental health issues that result in long-term hospitalization are shy
and introspective, and would not be the ones who act out with firearms.

We have serious firearm problems in this country.



The only firearms problem in Parkland was the lack of armed security.


In this county all the doors to the schools, except the main entrance, can be opened only from the
inside. Even our little elementary school down the road requires the push of a button, image
displayed on the secretary's viewer, and then she must push the button to allow the door to be
opened from the outside. The high schools all have county cops in the schools.


Same here.
 
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