Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/16/18 8:25 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/16/2018 8:14 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 08:01:53 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 2/16/18 7:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

News reports now indicate that it was well known that Cruz was a
messed
up kid and has a history of treatment at a mental health
facility. He
told police "the Demons made me do it".

Lot of good the shrinks/therapists did for him or the 17 people
who died
at the school in Florida Wednesday.


You don't know why he was referred for treatment.
You don't know if he was Baker-acted.
You don't know what his evaluation was.
You don't know what sort of treatment he received.
You don't know how many treatment sessions he received.
You don't know the credentials of whoever treated him.
You don't know if there was appropriate follow-up.

You don't know ****.

But you continue to give cover to Trump.



Sure seems like you're the one doing the covering...for ineffectual
shrinks.


Obviously the mental health "professionals" either missed the
seriousness of his condition .... or failed to report it. There are
also reports that law enforcement had to visit his residence many times.
All the dots are there. The failure was connecting them.

And for Harry, sitting in my Bozo Bin: What has this got to do with
Trump?





The questions I raised remain. You don't know **** about Cruz or about
the legal processes that have to be followed for *requiring* an
evaluation or treatment or what an individual has to say for the
police to be called in. And, since you don't know generally or the
particulars in this case, you are just spouting.

Florida's "Baker Act" and similar acts in other states do not allow
much latitude in forcing evaluation and further treatment after
evaluation.

I notice you fellas, just like your hero, Trump, aren't mentioning the
easy availability of the sorts of firearms favored by these school,
church, parking lot, Vegas hotel shooters. You don't often read about
these sorts of horrors perpetrated by youngsters happening in Canada,
France, Great Britain, Australia, Germany, et cetera. This sort of
violence...mass murder committed by school kids and deranged
adults...is a peculiarly "American" phenom.

Here's an idea. Set up a fund to ask every American against gun
violence and loose gun laws to donate $5 to defeat Republican
legislators who are in the pocket of the NRA. Fifty million Americans
donating $5 each would put candidates in office who will put proper
controls on the NRA and those who oppose every rational idea to make
us safer.




If scary AR15's are taken off the shelves tomorrow that won't solve the
problem. The scary AR15 has a very small bullet but a high muzzle
velocity. The latter doesn't matter in a close quarters situation. A
Ruger 10/22 - millions sold and many kid's first rifle - is as deadly as
the scary AR15. Some say the the .22LR is deadlier due to the lower
velocity and resulting organ damage. They are available with 25+ round
magazines and the standard 10 round magazines are a quick change, too.
Then there are MAC10's, Kel-tec PMR30's, etc. It's not about the guns,
it's the people firing them.