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4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM ..... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was |
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On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote:
4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. |
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#3
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On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:36:27 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. As in all things life, things changed. "It is usually played as a purely orchestral work, only rarely being staged as a ballet." In fact, "The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929.. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930." Seems that although he may have started out in one direction, he ended up in another. It was, in the end, first published for piano. Now go listen to some soft chamber music. |
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#4
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On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano. Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. |
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#5
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On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. |
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#6
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On 1/17/2018 6:40 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. Old one. But, let's get back to the subject at hand, huh? If a musical score is *published" for piano, wasn't it written for piano? Or maybe you just don't know. That's ok too. Admitting you don't know is the first step towards recovery. |
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On 1/17/18 6:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/17/2018 6:40 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. Old one.* But, let's get back to the subject at hand, huh?* If a musical score is *published" for piano, wasn't it written for piano? Nope. In this case, it was written on a piano and published, but it was written *for* an orchestra. |
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On 1/17/2018 7:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/17/18 6:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/17/2018 6:40 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. Old one.* But, let's get back to the subject at hand, huh?* If a musical score is *published" for piano, wasn't it written for piano? Nope. In this case, it was written on a piano and published, but it was written *for* an orchestra. Guess you missed "published *for* piano", huh? I'll give you credit for consistency. Your progressive-liberal thought process leaves you in a constant state of denial. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. Difference between Engineers and journalism students is Engineers have to produce true, readable instructions. |
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On 1/17/18 12:13 PM, Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/17/18 5:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 8:36 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote: 4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. If a composer *publishes* a piece written for piano, it was written for piano.* Your cognizant thinking is going to hell in a handbasket. Uh-huh. Your language skills remind me of a funny engineering student I knew in college. "Before I enrolled in engineering school," he would say, "I couldn't spell engineer. Now I are one." I don't know if that was original with him, though. Difference between Engineers and journalism students is Engineers have to produce true, readable instructions. Thank goodness you don't write instructions. |
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