On 12/17/2017 1:05 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 11:20 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 11:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 11:12 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 9:02 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 5:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/16/2017 9:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:07:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:47:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 12/16/17 2:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
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I don't know what is wrong with you conservative
evangelicals. Your
brethren in Alabama supported a pedophile running for the
U.S. Senate, a
man who was excluded from a shopping mall because as a
grown man he was
annoying and trying to pick up for sex little girls. Trump
supported
him, too.

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If the “Christian evangelicals� had supported Hillary,
they’d have your aproval. You’d probably want a few in her
cabinate.


Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the
christian right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In
fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.


===

You'd certainly get a lot of support for that position in
Islamic
countries.Â* InÂ* fact I think it's already illegal in most.
How do you
feel about Sharia law?




D'uh. I am agnostic. I have no use for religion.

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That would be enough to get you stoned to death in many parts of
Pakistan.Â* I'm sure we could round up support for buying you a
vacation package.


Interestingly, that's what many christian evangelists "leaders"
say in
this country about people here who do not share their
superstitions.
Fascinating, isn't it, that religious conservatives have so
much in common.

I can't think of a democrat president in my life time who did not
embrace those superstitions on the campaign trail. Carter was a
baptist deacon and milked that cow on all 4 tits.



Carter is disgusted with the evangelical christian movement and
walked away from it nearly 20 years ago because, among other
reasons, of the way it mistreated women


It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of
Christianity in the United States you focus on one of the smallest
...evangelical ... with your complaints about shoving religion
down your throat. Of the others, I don't know of any that
purposely go out and try to convert anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few
but I've never heard of it or experienced it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087



You are misinterpreting the chart you provided in your URL.
Evangelicals are much more than a denomination and in fact pollute
many denominations.

According to the Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape Study,
evangelical protestants comprise the largest religious group in the
united states:

http://pewrsr.ch/1cpBNNW


That's *your* interpretation of what an "evangelical" is.Â* I've been
exposed to several denominations, from Catholicism and Episcopalian
to Lutheranism and several Baptist sub-denominations.Â* Even explored
Judaism a bit.Â* Never heard a call to recruit in any of them.


You are confusing evangelical and proselytizer. They are not the
same, though there can be overlap. A well-disciplined course of study
in comparative religions might have enlightened you.


Why would I possibly be interested in a "well-disciplined" course of
study in comparative religions?

I was ordained on the Internet.Â* :-)




Yeah, it shows.

According to you, so were you.




As a silly joke.


Me too.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 13:32:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/17/2017 12:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.


"One Nation, under God ...."


===

"Under God" was a relatively recent addition to the pledge in 1954. I
can remember reciting the pledge without it in my early school years.

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On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:53:48 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat. Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone. Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087

Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.

But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your beliefs. Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs, ****-for-brains.
The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion and state. Go read it.

I never said the were injecting their "religious" beliefs into public policy, ****-for-brains. Just their beliefs. Got it now?

What an idiot you are. And on purpose.


Nope. There's no law against injecting non-religious beliefs. I figured
you were bright enough to realize that, eh? But apparently not.

On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 12:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et
cetera. I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in
their churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish
they'd keep it in those venues.


"One Nation, under God ...."

Probably the worst mistake of the Eisenhower presidency. And sadly
funny. After all, with no proof of the existence of any god, it might
have been termed, one nation under Zeus or one nation under Ra, or some
Egyptian stone god. And if there were a god, how would a mere mortal
know whether his or her nation were under it?

I think the pledge as modified in the Eisenhower presidency violates the
Establishment Clause.

On 12/17/17 1:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 12:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of
Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.


But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their
beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your
beliefs.Â* Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs,
****-for-brains. The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion
and state. Go read it.


He didn't say "religious" beliefs.



Non-religious folk don't have religious beliefs to insert, do they?

Keyser Soze
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On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:53:48 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ....
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat. Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone. Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087

Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera..
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.

But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your beliefs. Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs, ****-for-brains.
The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion and state. Go read it.

I never said the were injecting their "religious" beliefs into public policy, ****-for-brains. Just their beliefs. Got it now?

What an idiot you are. And on purpose.


Nope. There's no law against injecting non-religious beliefs. I figured
you were bright enough to realize that, eh? But apparently not.
.....
Don’t be dim, Harry. No law(s) about “injecting religious beliefs� either...

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 1:57:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:53:48 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat. Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone. Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087

Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.

But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your beliefs. Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs, ****-for-brains.
The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion and state. Go read it.

I never said the were injecting their "religious" beliefs into public policy, ****-for-brains. Just their beliefs. Got it now?

What an idiot you are. And on purpose.


Nope. There's no law against injecting non-religious beliefs. I figured
you were bright enough to realize that, eh? But apparently not.

There's also no law against injecting beliefs that might be aligned with religious beliefs. That's the magic of our democratic system. We just can't have a state supported religion. Majority rules, eh?

On 12/17/17 1:51 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 13:32:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/17/2017 12:39 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.


"One Nation, under God ...."


===

"Under God" was a relatively recent addition to the pledge in 1954. I
can remember reciting the pledge without it in my early school years.

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We stopped reciting that pledge in public school after it was modified
but a couple of teachers said we could recite it without the "under god"
nonsense, so we did. I vaguely recall one grammar school teacher getting
a mild reprimand for for having the kids recite "The Lord's Prayer"
aloud at the beginning of the school day, but that was also stopped.

Once we got out of grammar school and into 7th grade junior high, that
nonsense stopped altogether.

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 2:04:33 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 1:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 12:53 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of
Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ....
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087


Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.


But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their
beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your
beliefs.Â* Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs,
****-for-brains. The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion
and state. Go read it.


He didn't say "religious" beliefs.



Non-religious folk don't have religious beliefs to insert, do they?

But they do have beliefs. Believe it or not.

On 12/17/17 2:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
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On 12/17/17 1:32 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:53:48 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:44 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:39:10 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 05:15:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat. Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone. Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or experienced
it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087

Harry thinks any thing remotte;y related to religion is "ramming Jesus
down his throat".
I bet he thinks this is a great policy
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10278



I may laugh at beliefs based on speculation and superstition and
hypocrisy, but it doesn't bother me until or unless it intrudes into
public policy, is supported by tax dollars, influences laws, et cetera.
I don't give a ****, really, what "religious folk" practice in their
churches, religious schools, homes, et cetera. I just wish they'd keep
it in those venues.

But you have no problem with non-religious folk injecting their beliefs into public policy, especially when it coincides with your beliefs. Funny how that works, eh?


Non-religious folks aren't injecting religious beliefs, ****-for-brains.
The Constitution calls for *separation* of religion and state. Go read it.

I never said the were injecting their "religious" beliefs into public policy, ****-for-brains. Just their beliefs. Got it now?

What an idiot you are. And on purpose.


Nope. There's no law against injecting non-religious beliefs. I figured
you were bright enough to realize that, eh? But apparently not.
....
Don’t be dim, Harry. No law(s) about “injecting religious beliefs� either...


Read up on the Establishment Clause.