On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.

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On 12/15/2017 11:04 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 10:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/15/2017 8:54 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 8:47 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

Mr. Luddite wrote:

The latest revelations (if true) of agents within the FBI
demonstrating
anti-Trump and pro-Hillary sentiments during investigations and the
re-wording of Comey's declaration not to recommend criminal charges
against Hillary, along with all the other actions creating suspicions
among Republicans are understandable to say the least.

Meanwhile, Mueller is continuing some kind of investigation of Trump
trying to find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

This all needs to stop, IMO.Â* I am not excusing the poor judgements,
biased reports or even lying by both sides.Â* It's important to
remember
that Comey's conclusion regarding Hillary came just before the
general
election when virtually *everyone* in the country expected Hillary to
win in a landslide.Â*Â* The whole issue would have simply floated away
down the river had that happened.

Instead, we now face what some experts say is a constitutional
crisis.
The great divide is widening and each side is digging in their heels.

Here's my solution:

Disband the Mueller investigation into Trump's alleged collusion with
the Russians.

Drop any ideas of going after Hillary for lying to Congress, the
FBI and
for other alleged actions like destroying evidence.

Let the American voters decide in 2018 and in 2020 which direction
they
want the country to go in and under which party's leadership.

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.



Hilarious.

Yep.Â* I say let the law prevail.Â* Let's see exactly who gets
"locked up."



It is astonishing to me the lengths to which Trump supporters will go
to prevent the investigations from reaching their conclusions. Trump
and his family are without question the worst thing to ever happen to
the presidency, and more and more it looks as if the family and
retainers have engaged in a huge criminal enterprise. I still don't
think the Republican house of representatives will impeach Trump, but
further revelations about his shenanigans will cripple his ability to
do harm, and, if the Dems take the House in 2018, he likely will be
impeached. Even if the Senate doesn't push him out afterwards, he'll
be further tied up in knots and as horrific as the charges will be by
then, he certainly won't be re-electable. Clinton ****ed around with
women, but Trump is giving the country and its institutions a serious
****ing.


If you feel that way then you have to accept that about half the
country feels the same way about Hillary and the stink that is
emerging from the actions (or lack of) taken by the DOJ and the FBI
regarding her criminal behavior.Â* If the Republicans are successful in
opening another investigation of her activities, especially with the
new data being released, it might be a horse race to see who gets
locked up first.



Mrs. Clinton isn't in office.


Let me ask you this then:

When Mueller completes his investigation and should he report that *no*
evidence exists that warrants any form of indictment of Trump, will you
be able to accept those findings? How about you, BOA?

On Friday, 15 December 2017 12:03:04 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 15 December 2017 07:50:07 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The latest revelations (if true) of agents within the FBI demonstrating
anti-Trump and pro-Hillary sentiments during investigations and the
re-wording of Comey's declaration not to recommend criminal charges
against Hillary, along with all the other actions creating suspicions
among Republicans are understandable to say the least.

Meanwhile, Mueller is continuing some kind of investigation of Trump
trying to find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

This all needs to stop, IMO. I am not excusing the poor judgements,
biased reports or even lying by both sides. It's important to remember
that Comey's conclusion regarding Hillary came just before the general
election when virtually *everyone* in the country expected Hillary to
win in a landslide. The whole issue would have simply floated away
down the river had that happened.

Instead, we now face what some experts say is a constitutional crisis.
The great divide is widening and each side is digging in their heels.

Here's my solution:

Disband the Mueller investigation into Trump's alleged collusion with
the Russians.

Drop any ideas of going after Hillary for lying to Congress, the FBI and
for other alleged actions like destroying evidence.

Let the American voters decide in 2018 and in 2020 which direction they
want the country to go in and under which party's leadership.

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.


...except when they're liberals like Hillary, eh? After all, Krause thinks Hillary should go
unpunished, therefore you must agree, eh Mr. P-W?


Did I make any exceptions, Johnny...well yes for the INNOCENT.
What is this P-W business? You calling names again?

On Friday, 15 December 2017 12:13:04 UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.

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Bingo!
I like to think I can bring an objective perspective to this problem...
either they're guilty or they're innocent. If they've broken the law, they should be punished. I believe in law and order.

On 12/15/17 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.

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Don lives in a country adjacent to 'Merica. One of North Korea's
missiles aimed at Trump might miss and hit Nova Scotia. Oh, and air and
water pollution, too, now that the regs are going away here.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/15/2017 11:04 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 10:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/15/2017 8:54 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 8:47 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

Mr. Luddite wrote:

The latest revelations (if true) of agents within the FBI
demonstrating
anti-Trump and pro-Hillary sentiments during investigations and the
re-wording of Comey's declaration not to recommend criminal charges
against Hillary, along with all the other actions creating suspicions
among Republicans are understandable to say the least.

Meanwhile, Mueller is continuing some kind of investigation of Trump
trying to find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

This all needs to stop, IMO.Â* I am not excusing the poor judgements,
biased reports or even lying by both sides.Â* It's important to
remember
that Comey's conclusion regarding Hillary came just before the
general
election when virtually *everyone* in the country expected Hillary to
win in a landslide.Â*Â* The whole issue would have simply floated away
down the river had that happened.

Instead, we now face what some experts say is a constitutional
crisis.
The great divide is widening and each side is digging in their heels.

Here's my solution:

Disband the Mueller investigation into Trump's alleged collusion with
the Russians.

Drop any ideas of going after Hillary for lying to Congress, the
FBI and
for other alleged actions like destroying evidence.

Let the American voters decide in 2018 and in 2020 which direction
they
want the country to go in and under which party's leadership.

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.



Hilarious.

Yep.Â* I say let the law prevail.Â* Let's see exactly who gets
"locked up."



It is astonishing to me the lengths to which Trump supporters will go
to prevent the investigations from reaching their conclusions. Trump
and his family are without question the worst thing to ever happen to
the presidency, and more and more it looks as if the family and
retainers have engaged in a huge criminal enterprise. I still don't
think the Republican house of representatives will impeach Trump, but
further revelations about his shenanigans will cripple his ability to
do harm, and, if the Dems take the House in 2018, he likely will be
impeached. Even if the Senate doesn't push him out afterwards, he'll
be further tied up in knots and as horrific as the charges will be by
then, he certainly won't be re-electable. Clinton ****ed around with
women, but Trump is giving the country and its institutions a serious
****ing.


If you feel that way then you have to accept that about half the
country feels the same way about Hillary and the stink that is
emerging from the actions (or lack of) taken by the DOJ and the FBI
regarding her criminal behavior.Â* If the Republicans are successful in
opening another investigation of her activities, especially with the
new data being released, it might be a horse race to see who gets
locked up first.



Mrs. Clinton isn't in office.


Let me ask you this then:

When Mueller completes his investigation and should he report that *no*
evidence exists that warrants any form of indictment of Trump, will you
be able to accept those findings? How about you, BOA?




She had an office when Comey changed the paperwork.

On 12/15/17 11:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/15/2017 11:04 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 10:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/15/2017 8:54 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/15/17 8:47 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

Mr. Luddite wrote:

The latest revelations (if true) of agents within the FBI
demonstrating
anti-Trump and pro-Hillary sentiments during investigations and the
re-wording of Comey's declaration not to recommend criminal charges
against Hillary, along with all the other actions creating
suspicions
among Republicans are understandable to say the least.

Meanwhile, Mueller is continuing some kind of investigation of Trump
trying to find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

This all needs to stop, IMO.Â* I am not excusing the poor judgements,
biased reports or even lying by both sides.Â* It's important to
remember
that Comey's conclusion regarding Hillary came just before the
general
election when virtually *everyone* in the country expected
Hillary to
win in a landslide.Â*Â* The whole issue would have simply floated away
down the river had that happened.

Instead, we now face what some experts say is a constitutional
crisis.
The great divide is widening and each side is digging in their
heels.

Here's my solution:

Disband the Mueller investigation into Trump's alleged collusion
with
the Russians.

Drop any ideas of going after Hillary for lying to Congress, the
FBI and
for other alleged actions like destroying evidence.

Let the American voters decide in 2018 and in 2020 which
direction they
want the country to go in and under which party's leadership.

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.



Hilarious.

Yep.Â* I say let the law prevail.Â* Let's see exactly who gets
"locked up."



It is astonishing to me the lengths to which Trump supporters will
go to prevent the investigations from reaching their conclusions.
Trump and his family are without question the worst thing to ever
happen to the presidency, and more and more it looks as if the
family and retainers have engaged in a huge criminal enterprise. I
still don't think the Republican house of representatives will
impeach Trump, but further revelations about his shenanigans will
cripple his ability to do harm, and, if the Dems take the House in
2018, he likely will be impeached. Even if the Senate doesn't push
him out afterwards, he'll be further tied up in knots and as
horrific as the charges will be by then, he certainly won't be
re-electable. Clinton ****ed around with women, but Trump is giving
the country and its institutions a serious ****ing.


If you feel that way then you have to accept that about half the
country feels the same way about Hillary and the stink that is
emerging from the actions (or lack of) taken by the DOJ and the FBI
regarding her criminal behavior.Â* If the Republicans are successful
in opening another investigation of her activities, especially with
the new data being released, it might be a horse race to see who gets
locked up first.



Mrs. Clinton isn't in office.


Let me ask you this then:

When Mueller completes his investigation and should he report that *no*
evidence exists that warrants any form of indictment of Trump, will you
be able to accept those findings?Â*Â* How about you, BOA?



I'm not sure he can indict Trump, legally, but he can point out various
crimes committed by Trump. His family members and advisers, of course,
are indictable. But if Mueller concludes no crimes were committed by
Trump within the purview of his investigation, sure. But that still
leaves Trump's sexual crimes and perhaps his money-laundering crimes, if
any.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 08:28:09 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 15 December 2017 12:03:04 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 15 December 2017 07:50:07 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The latest revelations (if true) of agents within the FBI demonstrating
anti-Trump and pro-Hillary sentiments during investigations and the
re-wording of Comey's declaration not to recommend criminal charges
against Hillary, along with all the other actions creating suspicions
among Republicans are understandable to say the least.

Meanwhile, Mueller is continuing some kind of investigation of Trump
trying to find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

This all needs to stop, IMO. I am not excusing the poor judgements,
biased reports or even lying by both sides. It's important to remember
that Comey's conclusion regarding Hillary came just before the general
election when virtually *everyone* in the country expected Hillary to
win in a landslide. The whole issue would have simply floated away
down the river had that happened.

Instead, we now face what some experts say is a constitutional crisis.
The great divide is widening and each side is digging in their heels.

Here's my solution:

Disband the Mueller investigation into Trump's alleged collusion with
the Russians.

Drop any ideas of going after Hillary for lying to Congress, the FBI and
for other alleged actions like destroying evidence.

Let the American voters decide in 2018 and in 2020 which direction they
want the country to go in and under which party's leadership.

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.


...except when they're liberals like Hillary, eh? After all, Krause thinks Hillary should go
unpunished, therefore you must agree, eh Mr. P-W?


Did I make any exceptions, Johnny...well yes for the INNOCENT.
What is this P-W business? You calling names again?

Figure it out.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:05:22 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/15/17 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.

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Don lives in a country adjacent to 'Merica. One of North Korea's
missiles aimed at Trump might miss and hit Nova Scotia. Oh, and air and
water pollution, too, now that the regs are going away here.

===

I think it's more a need to seek approval from you, his puppet master.

On 12/15/17 1:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:05:22 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/15/17 11:13 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 06:32:08 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

This whole thing is getting out of control and represents a greater
threat to the country than any individual lies or deception.

I hate to see criminal acts by those in power go unpunished. I'd rather see both investigated and jailed if found guilty. Otherwise the same old crap continues unabated.

===

Don, which of your dogs is in this hunt?

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Don lives in a country adjacent to 'Merica. One of North Korea's
missiles aimed at Trump might miss and hit Nova Scotia. Oh, and air and
water pollution, too, now that the regs are going away here.

===

I think it's more a need to seek approval from you, his puppet master.


More likely, it is because neither Don no I buy into your right-wing
BORG collective.