On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 08:55:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/26/17 8:32 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 5:47:29 AM UTC-6, John H wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

States with the most guns
recovered in Chicago

Illinois 22,051
Indiana 7,747
Mississippi 4,296
Wisconsin 1,647
Kentucky 1,226
Ohio 1,121
Tennessee 1,090
Alabama 1,070
Arkansas 944
Texas 937

Where the hell's Virginia? The map does show a few, mostly from the Norfolk area, but nothing like
Herr Krause indicates.

Let's see, that's from the NYTimes, one of the Krause favorites, so can't be biased.

Here's a discussion of the gun control laws in Chicago and just how well it 'controls guns'. Sounds
like Chuck's Gun Shop is the 'real' gunshow loophole!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us...tal-shots.html

The Virginia trunk dealers are presently out of stock.


Between the two of you, your IQ's might add up to moron.

Cook County, Illinois, where Chicago is located, has restrictive laws on
the sale of firearms. There are no gun stores in Chicago, and Chicago,
thanks to pressure by the NRA, no longer has restrictive gun laws.
Anyone who wants to legally purchase a gun and who lives in Chicago can
buy one just about anywhere else in Illinois and, of course, in
neighboring Indiana.

According to the Chicago Tribue, "When it comes to gun laws, big cities
are only as strong as the states that border them. And in Chicago’s
case, that’s Indiana. Thanks to Vice President Mike Pence, the former
governor, Indiana has some of the weakest gun laws in the nation.

"While Illinois has gone to great lengths to see that background checks
are done for all gun purchases, Indiana has done the opposite. To buy a
weapon in Illinois, the owner must have a valid firearms owner’s
identification card, issued by the Illinois State Police.

"With no permit or license required to purchase a gun in Indiana, it is
incredibly easy for a trafficker to drive across the state line, obtain
a gun and use it to commit a homicide on the streets of Chicago."

Further, "...thanks to the Illinois General Assembly, which was
pressured by the federal courts to pass a concealed carry law in 2013,
people can walk the streets of Chicago with a gun attached to their
waist and another strapped to their ankle.

"Sorry, gun lovers, your attempts to use Chicago as a prop to bolster
your claims that gun control laws do nothing to curb gun violence just
don’t hold up.

"New York, in fact, has stricter gun laws on the books than Chicago. And
guess what? Its homicide numbers are heading toward historic lows. Los
Angeles has some pretty tough gun laws too. Its homicide numbers also
pale compared with Chicago’s.

"Those kinds of details don’t fit the conservative, pro-gun narrative,
though. To use New York as a talking point, they’d have to admit that
strict gun laws might actually have an impact on homicide rates."

What this adds up to is John Herring the Racist spreading his usual
brand of manure about gun laws in Chicago. You cannot legally buy a
firearm in Chicago, but I am sure it is easy to do in Flyover, Illinois,
where Groundhog Day Tim sleeps.


New York is a great place to look at the gun law debate. They have had
the Sullivan law, virtually unchanged since the depression. During the
Lindsay, Dinkins and Koch (soft on crime) era, murders in New York
were legendary. Gun laws did not bend the curve on murders, strict law
enforcement for relatively minor "quality of life" laws did, along
with actually enforcing other laws on the books including the Sullivan
act (AKA stop and frisk).
They stopped the criminals before they graduated to murder.
Now that the democrats are back in Gracie Mansion they are softer and
kinder to minor criminals their murder rate is creeping back up.