On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:05:59 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


To me, Starbucks regular coffee just tastes burnt. Maybe it's because it is burnt...

I am not a Starbucks fan either. It is just nasty. It tastes like that
coffee you find at midnight that was in the Bunn cooking all day.
I had a hard time finding a regular cup of coffee in New Zealand too.
It is all espresso there. We talked to the owner of a little
restaurant out in the country for a while and she said that was fairly
new and she was not sure why the whole country "got on the bandwagon".
She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.

I rarely drink Starbucks coffee but I like the taste. I like really strong coffee, though. The pot my wife makes in the morning is just before overflowing the basket when it brews. She knows just how much coffee to use to keep the grounds out of the pot.

Some of the best coffee I've had was in Brazil and Venezuela. I brought a couple of kilos back from there. The East Indian girl that sits across the hall from me makes freshly ground French press coffee every morning. It's good too, just too "fiddly" for me to do it myself. That reminds me, I need to bring her a pound of some good beans.

On 11/14/17 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


To me, Starbucks regular coffee just tastes burnt. Maybe it's because it is burnt...

I am not a Starbucks fan either. It is just nasty. It tastes like that
coffee you find at midnight that was in the Bunn cooking all day.
I had a hard time finding a regular cup of coffee in New Zealand too.
It is all espresso there. We talked to the owner of a little
restaurant out in the country for a while and she said that was fairly
new and she was not sure why the whole country "got on the bandwagon".
She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.


I don't like the coffee Starbucks brews and serves. It always tastes
"too strong" for my taste. I do like WaWa brewed coffee, though.

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:45:13 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim

She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.
....
It’s comforting to know there are compassionate people out there...


You ask for an “Americano�.

I figured that out myself but it is just a shot of espresso in a cup
of hot water. The lady who ran the restaurant had a Mr Coffee in the
back for herself.
The absolute best coffee I have ever had was at the Myrtle Bank Hotel
in Kingston Jamaica. The Ritz in Naples was a close second. It is a
very strong coffee but not bitter, burnt or harsh in any way. It just
has a very distinctive taste to it and I am not sure how they do it.

Try Caribou Coffee's "Mahogany". It's a dark roast with a smooth flavor.

On 11/14/2017 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim

She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.
....
It’s comforting to know there are compassionate people out there...


You ask for an “Americano�.

I figured that out myself but it is just a shot of espresso in a cup
of hot water. The lady who ran the restaurant had a Mr Coffee in the
back for herself.
The absolute best coffee I have ever had was at the Myrtle Bank Hotel
in Kingston Jamaica. The Ritz in Naples was a close second. It is a
very strong coffee but not bitter, burnt or harsh in any way. It just
has a very distinctive taste to it and I am not sure how they do it.



eggshells.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:53:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/14/17 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


To me, Starbucks regular coffee just tastes burnt. Maybe it's because it is burnt...

I am not a Starbucks fan either. It is just nasty. It tastes like that
coffee you find at midnight that was in the Bunn cooking all day.
I had a hard time finding a regular cup of coffee in New Zealand too.
It is all espresso there. We talked to the owner of a little
restaurant out in the country for a while and she said that was fairly
new and she was not sure why the whole country "got on the bandwagon".
She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.


I don't like the coffee Starbucks brews and serves. It always tastes
"too strong" for my taste. I do like WaWa brewed coffee, though.

The 7-11 coffee was real good in the 70s. When they changed the cups,
the coffee was different. It was all part of an "improvement" in the
food and beverage center and I am sure the coffee blend changed. I
think some of the flavor may have come from the cup. ;-)

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:09:41 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
- show quoted text -
New Zealand is actually a very cool place to visit. The people there
are very easy going. I would suggest getting a car and driving around
in the countryside. We started with an itinerary a travel agent set up
for us but we blew it off after a few days. I am not much for getting
on the bus and riding to a tourist trap. If you just want the tourist
experience, go to Epcot.
....

That’s why I like Kauai Hawaii small and peaceful. With exception of the memorial, iHonolulu is like St. Louis with a beach.

On 11/14/17 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:53:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/14/17 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


To me, Starbucks regular coffee just tastes burnt. Maybe it's because it is burnt...

I am not a Starbucks fan either. It is just nasty. It tastes like that
coffee you find at midnight that was in the Bunn cooking all day.
I had a hard time finding a regular cup of coffee in New Zealand too.
It is all espresso there. We talked to the owner of a little
restaurant out in the country for a while and she said that was fairly
new and she was not sure why the whole country "got on the bandwagon".
She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.


I don't like the coffee Starbucks brews and serves. It always tastes
"too strong" for my taste. I do like WaWa brewed coffee, though.

The 7-11 coffee was real good in the 70s. When they changed the cups,
the coffee was different. It was all part of an "improvement" in the
food and beverage center and I am sure the coffee blend changed. I
think some of the flavor may have come from the cup. ;-)


I used to stop at a 7-11 in Great Falls, Va., while I was general
contracting a house out there. Sometimes I'd get a plain donut. In those
days, 7-11 got its donuts from Montgomery Donuts, and they were pretty
good. Then the chain changed its coffee and donut supplier, and both
products went to hell. The local 7-11s don't attend properly to their
coffee decanters, and many times it is lukewarm. I don't often stop
there if there is a WaWa nearby.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:17:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2017 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim

She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.
....
It’s comforting to know there are compassionate people out there...


You ask for an “Americano�.

I figured that out myself but it is just a shot of espresso in a cup
of hot water. The lady who ran the restaurant had a Mr Coffee in the
back for herself.
The absolute best coffee I have ever had was at the Myrtle Bank Hotel
in Kingston Jamaica. The Ritz in Naples was a close second. It is a
very strong coffee but not bitter, burnt or harsh in any way. It just
has a very distinctive taste to it and I am not sure how they do it.



eggshells.

Really? I might give that a shot. I assume the shells off of a hard
boiled egg are more sanitary but I am not sure they would impart the
right flavor.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:19:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

7-11 got its donuts from Montgomery Donuts

Interesting. That was started by Carl Probert, a former IBM CE at NIH.
He quit IBM over a salary dispute (IBMs mistake IMHO) and went off to
make doughnuts. He used to drop by the office after that with a couple
dozen, if we promised the branch manager would not get any. His
secretary may have slipped him one but the troops stayed true to the
cause.
The strange thing is shortly after he left, IBM created the position
hardware"account rep" and granted the salary range he wanted because
he was right. It just took them a while without him to figure it out.
They guy they put into the job was not nearly as good.

On 11/14/2017 2:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:17:45 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2017 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:13:51 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

Tim wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:40:28 -0800 (PST), Tim

She didn't like espresso either but that was what the market demanded.
She sold me a cup of regular coffee from her personal pot.
....
It’s comforting to know there are compassionate people out there...


You ask for an “Americano�.

I figured that out myself but it is just a shot of espresso in a cup
of hot water. The lady who ran the restaurant had a Mr Coffee in the
back for herself.
The absolute best coffee I have ever had was at the Myrtle Bank Hotel
in Kingston Jamaica. The Ritz in Naples was a close second. It is a
very strong coffee but not bitter, burnt or harsh in any way. It just
has a very distinctive taste to it and I am not sure how they do it.



eggshells.

Really? I might give that a shot. I assume the shells off of a hard
boiled egg are more sanitary but I am not sure they would impart the
right flavor.


No flavor. The eggshells will reduce the acidity making the coffee
smoother.