Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 08:34:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I am definitely in favor of mandatory, universal background checks for
firearm purchases. I know others disagree but I think it's only
commonsense. Like most complex issues in a diversified society, some
level of compromise is required to advance the welfare and safety of the
whole.


That is some nice feel good legislation but most of the mass shooters
passed background checks and hard core criminals have other avenues
for getting the guns they want.
Although this guy would have had no problem filling out a Form 4 and
getting the FBI/BATF to sell him a stamp, it appears his machine guns
were illegally obtained/modified.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:34:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I agree but if a universal background check system could stop even *one*
of these events from happening, it would be worth it. A background
check is really not an inconvenience.

It is certainly not a problem for people at a dealer in the city but a
rancher in Montana might disagree if he just wants to give his son an
old gun.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 09:53:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

HIPAA is stupid in many ways anyway. Even a caretaker or next of kin can
be barred from the details of a loved one's medical or mental condition
or status.

HIPPA is really a result of the AIDS epidemic. People who may have had
the disease were worried that they might be outed as being gay. Time
has moved on. Gay does not have the stigma it used to have and we now
understand you don't have to be gay to have HIV.
At a certain point it may just be obsolete.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:08:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

The news has already said that he purchased many from a local gun shop. That included a background check.

Personally, I couldn't care less if every gun transaction required a background check. I've yet to
see where the background checks would have prevented any of these mass shootings, and I disagree
with the 'saving even one life would make anything worth it' approach to regulation enactment. Look
how many lives would be saved if the minimum driving license age was 21.

Hey stop it.
You are not allowed to talk about cars when we are talking about
unnecessary deaths!
They are just "the rub of the green".
How many deaths and injuries would be prevented if cell phones were
totally disabled in a moving car or simply disabling those attention
grabbing dash board toys?
They won't even test drivers. (the ability to parallel park ain't it)
These are all off limits because it would be too inconvenient.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 12:03:20 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 08:34:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I am definitely in favor of mandatory, universal background checks for
firearm purchases. I know others disagree but I think it's only
commonsense. Like most complex issues in a diversified society, some
level of compromise is required to advance the welfare and safety of the
whole.


That is some nice feel good legislation but most of the mass shooters
passed background checks and hard core criminals have other avenues
for getting the guns they want.
Although this guy would have had no problem filling out a Form 4 and
getting the FBI/BATF to sell him a stamp, it appears his machine guns
were illegally obtained/modified.

I heard some reports this morning saying he had a couple of "bump fire" stocks on AR's. At that point it's still a semi-auto with a stock that makes your finger hit the trigger much faster than you could do it manually.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 12:03:20 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 08:34:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I am definitely in favor of mandatory, universal background checks for
firearm purchases. I know others disagree but I think it's only
commonsense. Like most complex issues in a diversified society, some
level of compromise is required to advance the welfare and safety of the
whole.


That is some nice feel good legislation but most of the mass shooters
passed background checks and hard core criminals have other avenues
for getting the guns they want.
Although this guy would have had no problem filling out a Form 4 and
getting the FBI/BATF to sell him a stamp, it appears his machine guns
were illegally obtained/modified.

I heard some reports this morning saying he had a couple of "bump fire" stocks on AR's. At that point it's still a semi-auto with a stock that makes your finger hit the trigger much faster than you could do it manually.

I am really waiting for the actual facts but the fire did sound more
regular than I would expect from a bump fire stock. To be honest I
have never actually fired a gun like that. You can waste ammo faster
by just throwing it in the trash.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:32:05 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:08:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

The news has already said that he purchased many from a local gun shop. That included a background check.

Personally, I couldn't care less if every gun transaction required a background check. I've yet to
see where the background checks would have prevented any of these mass shootings, and I disagree
with the 'saving even one life would make anything worth it' approach to regulation enactment. Look
how many lives would be saved if the minimum driving license age was 21.

Hey stop it.
You are not allowed to talk about cars when we are talking about
unnecessary deaths!
They are just "the rub of the green".
How many deaths and injuries would be prevented if cell phones were
totally disabled in a moving car or simply disabling those attention
grabbing dash board toys?
They won't even test drivers. (the ability to parallel park ain't it)
These are all off limits because it would be too inconvenient.

Maryland has strict cell phone/driving laws. Yet there is not a time when driving in Maryland I
don't see folks talking or texting on their cell phones. It shows that a law makes no difference if
it's not enforced.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:00:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:32:05 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:08:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

The news has already said that he purchased many from a local gun shop. That included a background check.

Personally, I couldn't care less if every gun transaction required a background check. I've yet to
see where the background checks would have prevented any of these mass shootings, and I disagree
with the 'saving even one life would make anything worth it' approach to regulation enactment. Look
how many lives would be saved if the minimum driving license age was 21.

Hey stop it.
You are not allowed to talk about cars when we are talking about
unnecessary deaths!
They are just "the rub of the green".
How many deaths and injuries would be prevented if cell phones were
totally disabled in a moving car or simply disabling those attention
grabbing dash board toys?
They won't even test drivers. (the ability to parallel park ain't it)
These are all off limits because it would be too inconvenient.

Maryland has strict cell phone/driving laws. Yet there is not a time when driving in Maryland I
don't see folks talking or texting on their cell phones. It shows that a law makes no difference if
it's not enforced.

Most of the time that these things are tested, demonstrates that
talking on a hands free phone is as distracting as using a hand held.
It is not your hands that are distracted, it is your mind.
I am really surprised that these "smart" dash boards are legal.
If you are trying to set the options on the in car computer, you might
as well be driving from the trunk. Even fiddling with a radio that you
have to see to set is plenty distracting. That is why they invented
the push button radio and the "wonder bar" in the first place.

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

2:13
On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:00:33 -0400, John H
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Most of the time that these things are tested, demonstrates that
talking on a hands free phone is as distracting as using a hand held.
It is not your hands that are distracted, it is your mind.
I am really surprised that these "smart" dash boards are legal.
If you are trying to set the options on the in car computer, you might
as well be driving from the trunk. Even fiddling with a radio that you
have to see to set is plenty distracting. That is why they invented
the push button radio and the "wonder bar" in the first place.
......
My caddys has wonder bar radios. Also my buicks had Speed setters where you could see the needle where you wanted and I'd the speedo needle hit it. The thing would buzzzzz. Better to use the cruise control.

My wife's Honda CRV has built in GPS. You have to be in park to set it...

Hillary is wasting no time!
 

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:12:51 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 15:00:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 12:32:05 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 10:08:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

The news has already said that he purchased many from a local gun shop. That included a background check.

Personally, I couldn't care less if every gun transaction required a background check. I've yet to
see where the background checks would have prevented any of these mass shootings, and I disagree
with the 'saving even one life would make anything worth it' approach to regulation enactment. Look
how many lives would be saved if the minimum driving license age was 21.

Hey stop it.
You are not allowed to talk about cars when we are talking about
unnecessary deaths!
They are just "the rub of the green".
How many deaths and injuries would be prevented if cell phones were
totally disabled in a moving car or simply disabling those attention
grabbing dash board toys?
They won't even test drivers. (the ability to parallel park ain't it)
These are all off limits because it would be too inconvenient.

Maryland has strict cell phone/driving laws. Yet there is not a time when driving in Maryland I
don't see folks talking or texting on their cell phones. It shows that a law makes no difference if
it's not enforced.

Most of the time that these things are tested, demonstrates that
talking on a hands free phone is as distracting as using a hand held.
It is not your hands that are distracted, it is your mind.
I am really surprised that these "smart" dash boards are legal.
If you are trying to set the options on the in car computer, you might
as well be driving from the trunk. Even fiddling with a radio that you
have to see to set is plenty distracting. That is why they invented
the push button radio and the "wonder bar" in the first place.

Talking is one thing. Texting is another. I see people staring at their cell phone while their thumb
is going crazy on it. They do stop for a second when I hold the horn down while right next to them.
But then they just give me the finger and continue.