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Keyser Soze October 3rd 17 12:53 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/2/17 7:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:20:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Maybe it *was* an AK. Is there an AK-15? I am not a gun nut.


Not really The AK74 (not 47) shoots a similar round but not exactly
the same. They typically have an orange magazine like the one OBL was
seen with.
They also make an AR that shoots 7.62x39 (the AK round)
There is plenty of cross pollination.


Like Joseph's coat, AK magazines come in many colors.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 3rd 17 12:58 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.


They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.



They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns. ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.

Keyser Soze October 3rd 17 01:17 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.



They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.



The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.

justan October 3rd 17 01:19 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/2/17 7:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:20:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Maybe it *was* an AK. Is there an AK-15? I am not a gun nut.


Not really The AK74 (not 47) shoots a similar round but not exactly
the same. They typically have an orange magazine like the one OBL was
seen with.
They also make an AR that shoots 7.62x39 (the AK round)
There is plenty of cross pollination.


Like Joseph's coat, AK magazines come in many colors.


Like Krause, cowards come in only one color. Yella.
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Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 3rd 17 01:34 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/3/2017 8:17 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.



They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback
every attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.



The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.



I am definitely in favor of mandatory, universal background checks for
firearm purchases. I know others disagree but I think it's only
commonsense. Like most complex issues in a diversified society, some
level of compromise is required to advance the welfare and safety of the
whole.





Its Me October 3rd 17 02:17 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:17:08 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.



They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.



The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.


Just think, it will only take 49 more assholes like the one in Vegas to equal what a few muslims did in NY on the morning of 9-11.

I don't really disagree about background checks, but it wouldn't have stopped what happened in Vegas.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 3rd 17 02:34 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/3/2017 9:17 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:17:08 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.


They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.



The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.


Just think, it will only take 49 more assholes like the one in Vegas to equal what a few muslims did in NY on the morning of 9-11.


I don't really disagree about background checks, but it wouldn't have stopped what happened in Vegas.


I agree but if a universal background check system could stop even *one*
of these events from happening, it would be worth it. A background
check is really not an inconvenience.

Mr. Luddite[_4_] October 3rd 17 02:36 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On 10/3/2017 9:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:17:08 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.


They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.


The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.


Just think, it will only take 49 more assholes like the one in Vegas to
equal what a few muslims did in NY on the morning of 9-11.

I don't really disagree about background checks, but it wouldn't have
stopped what happened in Vegas.


Virtually all the 9-11 terrorists were not from countries on DumbTrump’s
“banned” list.




This is not 2001 Harry. It's 2017, terrorists exist throughout the
planet and the threats have multiplied.



John H[_2_] October 3rd 17 02:37 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 08:19:39 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 10/2/17 7:45 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:20:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Maybe it *was* an AK. Is there an AK-15? I am not a gun nut.

Not really The AK74 (not 47) shoots a similar round but not exactly
the same. They typically have an orange magazine like the one OBL was
seen with.
They also make an AR that shoots 7.62x39 (the AK round)
There is plenty of cross pollination.


Like Joseph's coat, AK magazines come in many colors.


Like Krause, cowards come in only one color. Yella.


Harry and the Yellow Color Dreamcoat.

John H[_2_] October 3rd 17 02:43 PM

Hillary is wasting no time!
 
On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 06:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 8:17:08 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/3/17 7:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2017 8:45 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/2/17 7:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 18:09:38 -0400,

wrote:


That's all going to get a great deal of scrutiny by law enforcement of
course.* Based on the sound recordings I've heard it certainly seems
likely to have been full auto, and possibly belt fed based on the
duration of fire.* A 223 on full auto will empty a 30 round mag in
about 3 seconds and the bursts I heard seemed much longer than that.

Another interesting aspect that doesn't seem to have gotten any
coverage is the fact that the hotel has no apparent balconies or
opening windows.* That would imply that the shooter blew out the
windows from inside as he started his assault.

They do make larger drum type magazines for ARs.
He broke out the windows.

This was reported as being a "millionaire" so with enough money you
can buy anything. They also say he was a gambler so he may have been
an ex millionaire.
He may have just snapped after a bad night in the casino.


We can all be thankful that in the future Trump's wall and his
restrictions against Muslim nations will keep Mexican and Muslim
terrorists out, leaving the field open for native-born terrorists.


They may affect the influence of terrorist organizations like ISIS on
native-borns.* ISIS is claiming responsibility for his actions.

You seem to have just accepted that nothing can be done about these
kinds of horrific shootings and love to Monday morning quarterback every
attempt anyone makes to minimize the threats.



The overwhelming majority of these mass murder shootings are committed
by native-born Americans against other native-born Americans. Trump's
folly wall and muslim bans are just food for his base voters. As you
have pointed out, or at least I thought you did, *mandatory* background
checks for *every* firearms "buy-sell-trade" transaction would be a good
place to start and, yes, *every* means every.


Just think, it will only take 49 more assholes like the one in Vegas to equal what a few muslims did in NY on the morning of 9-11.

I don't really disagree about background checks, but it wouldn't have stopped what happened in Vegas.


And in Chicago we get almost 15 times as many killings every year with the toughest gun laws in the
nation and almost nothing is said. Of course, if you have your felony-free girlfriend buy a gun for
you, then you won't get caught in a background check.

From what I've heard this guy had around a dozen weapons in the room and another bunch at home. I
wonder if they were all purchased without background checks. I doubt it.


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