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Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 11:30 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/2017 6:04 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Bill
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"The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek
button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek."


The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio.
What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes.
No seeking required.


The problem with Sirius and XM is that the sound quality sucks big-time. If you have the base stereo it may not be that noticeable, but with a better quality one the sound is very "flat" with almost no stereo image. It's highly compressed. I dropped my subscription.

MP3's sound far better. I can rip CD's to a high bit-rate MP3 and play them from a memory stick or transfer them to the "jukebox", which is nothing but a hard drive in the car used to store music. Then there's always HD FM, which is even better. The high quality iTunes songs are good, too.



Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly
"High Def" anyway, so I don't mind.



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Its Me May 30th 17 11:41 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:31:05 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 6:04 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Bill
- show quoted text -
"The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek
button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek."


The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio.
What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes.
No seeking required.


The problem with Sirius and XM is that the sound quality sucks big-time.. If you have the base stereo it may not be that noticeable, but with a better quality one the sound is very "flat" with almost no stereo image. It's highly compressed. I dropped my subscription.

MP3's sound far better. I can rip CD's to a high bit-rate MP3 and play them from a memory stick or transfer them to the "jukebox", which is nothing but a hard drive in the car used to store music. Then there's always HD FM, which is even better. The high quality iTunes songs are good, too.



Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly
"High Def" anyway, so I don't mind.


That's true. I listen to '70s rock and modern country, so it's a bit more noticeable on the '70s stuff and in your face with any modern music.

[email protected] May 31st 17 12:47 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 11:56:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.


I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell
phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the
dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would
not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment
centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and
get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you
have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key
numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take
your eyes off the road.
The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At
least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you
;)


I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-)

I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is
not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making
changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a
tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view,
both horizontal and vertical. Anything that
would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera
only looked at the ground behind the car.


My guess is the tree itself looked pretty far away and he ignored the
broken off limb that was pointing pretty much straight at him.. It
would have also been out of view when he got that close. You certainly
would have seen it if you looked in the rear view mirror or, better,
actually turned around and looked

[email protected] May 31st 17 12:49 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 12:37:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Greg doesn't trust or like anything made after 1965.



With cars, make that 1967 ;-)

[email protected] May 31st 17 12:53 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 17:00:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder.

The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle.
There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you
back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan
calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a .
guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken
fairly high up.


We have that on the Santa Fe we rented here and it has been on most of
our recent rentals. (3 or 4 years anyway).
I still turn around and look
The only time it has really seemed useful was when I was turning
around on a narrow road with a cliff behind me.

[email protected] May 31st 17 01:00 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 14:46:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Bill
- show quoted text -
"The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek
button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek."


The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio.
What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes.
No seeking required.


We always bring our own tunes. I used to have to pack a cable for an
MP3 player to plug into the radio and a FM modulator before that but
these a these days all of the cars seem to have a USB port so I just
need a thumb stick in my pocket. Plugging it in is about the first
thing I do when I get in a rentacar. The Chrysler van I rented on my
Ski trip had a hard drive in it and I loaded the whole stick out
there.

[email protected] May 31st 17 01:07 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 18:30:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly
"High Def" anyway, so I don't mind.


Exactly Most of the "singles" were mastered to play on the radio, even
up into the 70s/early 80s and unless it was re mastered the quality
was pretty "thin". Some of the LP stuff was a bit better but they
still re mastered what they could for CDs.

Bill[_12_] May 31st 17 06:10 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)


We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days)
back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was
staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and
the limb was above that view.
I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he
just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed
****ed that the technology failed him.


I did that to a Nissan POS in Costa Rica. No camera or sonar. But a
branch jutting out from a tree. Hit the spare tire on the rear door.
Another stupid idea. 5 mile an hour bumper that does not come in to play.



I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder.

The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle.
There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you
back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan
calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a
guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken
fairly high up.

The right side is the combination of additional cameras on the vehicle
that give you a 360 degree view of what's around you. If you come close
to hitting something with the front or side of the car, a visual and
audio warning goes off. There are also "sonar" sensors that warn of
hitting anything anywhere. It's pretty cool.

https://tinyurl.com/y7mwupwb

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My daughters 2011 Sienna has that type display. The Alpine system in my
truck shows cones.


Bill[_12_] May 31st 17 06:10 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
True North wrote:
Bill
- show quoted text -
"The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek
button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek."


The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio.
What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes.
No seeking required.


My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get
all 3 vehicles for $120 a year.


Poco Deplorevole May 31st 17 10:53 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 18:29:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/30/2017 5:46 PM, True North wrote:
Bill
- show quoted text -
"The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek
button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek."


The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio.
What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes.
No seeking required.


Me too. I have both the 60's channel and the 50's channel preset.



Holy smokes! I can't believe you folks don't all have Bluegrass Junction, channel 62, preset!


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