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Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 02:26 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row
folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall."



Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV pack most years
Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get 12 years out of it.
My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain small backup camera. No guide lines.
The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the guide lines.
The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy.


I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.

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Keyser Soze May 30th 17 02:34 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/17 9:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row
folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit
anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan
overall."



Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV
pack most years
Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get
12 years out of it.
My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain
small backup camera. No guide lines.
The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the
guide lines.
The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on
a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy.


I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.

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That's certainly a lot more "features" than on either of our current
vintage Toyotas.

Tim May 30th 17 02:53 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.
- show quoted text -
.....

My wife is stuck on Honda CRV's. They're firm and very economical Micah to drive. However her newest one has more butt wipes than any previous ones. And like you said Richard, the touch screen to do anything can be a nightmare for me. Way to many switchs on the steering wheel as well. I shouldn't complain though. I drive my mercury and live it. About the only time I drive the Honda is when it's really low in gas... lol!

Keyser Soze May 30th 17 03:00 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/17 9:53 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.
- show quoted text -
....

My wife is stuck on Honda CRV's. They're firm and very economical Micah to drive. However her newest one has more butt wipes than any previous ones. And like you said Richard, the touch screen to do anything can be a nightmare for me. Way to many switchs on the steering wheel as well. I shouldn't complain though. I drive my mercury and live it. About the only time I drive the Honda is when it's really low in gas... lol!


Once I determined the tire pressure sensors were sending accurate
readings to the dash display, I decided I liked them. I like the radio
volume switches on the steering wheel. I really haven't bothered with
the rest of the techie stuff, other than to make sure it was all
working. Too much "much," if you will.

Tim May 30th 17 03:06 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 

9:00 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Once I determined the tire pressure sensors were sending accurate
readings to the dash display, I decided I liked them. I like the radio
volume switches on the steering wheel. I really haven't bothered with
the rest of the techie stuff, other than to make sure it was all
working. Too much "much," if you will.
.....

On the CRV there is a little tire indecator light that comes on but doesn't tell which tires are in question. You have to check them individually. I had this happen a week ago and found the right rear tire to be approximately 5 lb lower than the others. Filled it correctly and hit the clear button and good to go. I'm really kinda glad it came in because it gave me an opportunity to check the tires out and noticed that within 52,xxx miles they're starting to weather crack around the rims.

I'll be getting her a new set soon, that is unless she trades it for another soon.,,

Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 03:51 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/2017 9:34 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/30/17 9:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third
row
folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit
anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan
overall."



Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV
pack most years
Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get
12 years out of it.
My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain
small backup camera. No guide lines.
The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe
the guide lines.
The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it
on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy.


I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features
on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select
"Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a
graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty.
The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you
are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the
turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large
circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center.
It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral
G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't
hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits,
measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other
factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It
also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to.

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That's certainly a lot more "features" than on either of our current
vintage Toyotas.


Like I said, fun to play with but pretty much useless. I can see a
benefit if I had a teenager who "borrowed" my car. I can look at the
recorded history and see how he or she had been driving it.




[email protected] May 30th 17 04:25 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)


We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days)
back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was
staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and
the limb was above that view.
I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he
just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed
****ed that the technology failed him.

[email protected] May 30th 17 04:33 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.


I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell
phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the
dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would
not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment
centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and
get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you
have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key
numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take
your eyes off the road.
The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At
least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you
;)

Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 04:56 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.


I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell
phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the
dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would
not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment
centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and
get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you
have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key
numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take
your eyes off the road.
The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At
least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you
;)


I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-)

I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is
not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making
changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a
tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view,
both horizontal and vertical. Anything that
would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera
only looked at the ground behind the car.



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Keyser Soze May 30th 17 05:19 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/30/17 11:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on
the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps"
several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical
display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next
page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering
and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make
by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with
graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G
forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in
turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree
while mesmerized by the stupid display.

There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring
how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It
constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a
memory of past scores that you can compare to.


I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell
phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the
dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would
not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment
centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and
get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you
have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key
numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take
your eyes off the road.
The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At
least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you
;)


I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-)

I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is
not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making
changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a
tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view,
both horizontal and vertical. Anything that
would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera
only looked at the ground behind the car.



If I drop the tailgate, I have a clear view of the pavement underneath
it. :)




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