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Tim May 27th 17 02:54 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Happy Memorial Day.
A time of remembrance to those who sacrificed their lives for the cause of freedoms sake.

Enjoy the weekend...

Poco Deplorevole May 27th 17 04:22 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Happy Memorial Day.
A time of remembrance to those who sacrificed their lives for the cause of freedoms sake.

Enjoy the weekend...


Why thank you, Tim. I'm not in trouble with daughter for not taking her on the Rolling Thunder ride.
She thought maybe she could do it, so I asked her to stand on her left leg and swing her right leg
over the back of a chair. With the hip surgery, there's no way she can do that, although she did
try. She can't even put her weight on the left leg, let alone swing the right one up. She *can* put
all her weight on the right leg, but then she can't get the left foot more than a few inches off the
ground. So I promised her we'd do it next year.

This year they're expecting about a half million bikes here for Rolling Thunder. Some pictures from
my trip up there a couple years ago.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ling%20Thunder


True North[_2_] May 27th 17 05:51 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 12:22:43 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Happy Memorial Day.
A time of remembrance to those who sacrificed their lives for the cause of freedoms sake.

Enjoy the weekend...


Why thank you, Tim. I'm not in trouble with daughter for not taking her on the Rolling Thunder ride.
She thought maybe she could do it, so I asked her to stand on her left leg and swing her right leg
over the back of a chair. With the hip surgery, there's no way she can do that, although she did
try. She can't even put her weight on the left leg, let alone swing the right one up. She *can* put
all her weight on the right leg, but then she can't get the left foot more than a few inches off the
ground. So I promised her we'd do it next year.

This year they're expecting about a half million bikes here for Rolling Thunder. Some pictures from
my trip up there a couple years ago.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ling%20Thunder



Say what?
What kind of dad are y'all?
There must be a small collapsing step stool out there that could be used and attached to the back of your sissy bar.

Poco Deplorevole May 27th 17 06:08 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 09:51:38 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 27 May 2017 12:22:43 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Happy Memorial Day.
A time of remembrance to those who sacrificed their lives for the cause of freedoms sake.

Enjoy the weekend...


Why thank you, Tim. I'm not in trouble with daughter for not taking her on the Rolling Thunder ride.
She thought maybe she could do it, so I asked her to stand on her left leg and swing her right leg
over the back of a chair. With the hip surgery, there's no way she can do that, although she did
try. She can't even put her weight on the left leg, let alone swing the right one up. She *can* put
all her weight on the right leg, but then she can't get the left foot more than a few inches off the
ground. So I promised her we'd do it next year.

This year they're expecting about a half million bikes here for Rolling Thunder. Some pictures from
my trip up there a couple years ago.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ling%20Thunder



Say what?
What kind of dad are y'all?
There must be a small collapsing step stool out there that could be used and attached to the back of your sissy bar.


Your ignorance is showing again, Don White. 'Nuff said.

Tim May 27th 17 06:20 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 

10:22 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Why thank you, Tim. I'm not in trouble with daughter for not taking her on the Rolling Thunder ride.
She thought maybe she could do it, so I asked her to stand on her left leg and swing her right leg
over the back of a chair. With the hip surgery, there's no way she can do that, although she did
try. She can't even put her weight on the left leg, let alone swing the right one up. She *can* put
all her weight on the right leg, but then she can't get the left foot more than a few inches off the
ground. So I promised her we'd do it next year.

This year they're expecting about a half million bikes here for Rolling Thunder. Some pictures from
my trip up there a couple years ago.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ling%20Thunder
.....

John I hope she has a good recovery. Hip surgery can be easy or complicated. My brothers was complicated. He had to be practically imobi Ike for a bout a month because if he bent his leg in a wrong manner it could dislocate.

No, she doesn't need to try at the moment. Patience pays off in this situation. Here's to her recovery!

Poco Deplorevole May 27th 17 07:28 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 10:20:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


10:22 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Why thank you, Tim. I'm not in trouble with daughter for not taking her on the Rolling Thunder ride.
She thought maybe she could do it, so I asked her to stand on her left leg and swing her right leg
over the back of a chair. With the hip surgery, there's no way she can do that, although she did
try. She can't even put her weight on the left leg, let alone swing the right one up. She *can* put
all her weight on the right leg, but then she can't get the left foot more than a few inches off the
ground. So I promised her we'd do it next year.

This year they're expecting about a half million bikes here for Rolling Thunder. Some pictures from
my trip up there a couple years ago.

http://s98.photobucket.com/user/jher...ling%20Thunder
....

John I hope she has a good recovery. Hip surgery can be easy or complicated. My brothers was complicated. He had to be practically imobi Ike for a bout a month because if he bent his leg in a wrong manner it could dislocate.

No, she doesn't need to try at the moment. Patience pays off in this situation. Here's to her recovery!


She's been bed-ridden for the past three or four weeks, only able to get up, with crutches, last
week. There's no way she could get on a motorcycle, stool or no stool (as Don White suggested). And,
I wouldn't want her to take the risk. If the bike went down, her hip would probably come loose. When
I asked if she was ready to go, I figured she'd ask me, on Facebook, if I was out of my mind for
suggesting it.

True North[_2_] May 27th 17 08:45 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?

Poco Deplorevole May 27th 17 09:11 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.

True North[_2_] May 27th 17 10:04 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day (ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.

Bill[_12_] May 27th 17 11:11 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be
expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day (ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


You were not trying to be helpful. But you were showcasing your stupidity
and being an asshole.


True North[_2_] May 28th 17 01:04 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Calif Swill guzzles...

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole Â*wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be
expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. Â*I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day Â*(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"You were not trying to be helpful. Â*But you were showcasing your stupidity
and being an asshole."


You hanging around on roofs again Swill?
Appears like you've suffered another injury to that soft noggin.

Bill[_12_] May 28th 17 03:14 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
True North wrote:
Calif Swill guzzles...

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole Â*wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be
expected to advise the best course of action?

You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. Â*I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day Â*(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"You were not trying to be helpful. Â*But you were showcasing your stupidity
and being an asshole."


You hanging around on roofs again Swill?
Appears like you've suffered another injury to that soft noggin.


Still wrong. Never hit the noggin. What is your excuse for stupidity?
Genetics?


[email protected] May 28th 17 05:22 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day (ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


Congrats Don, You just upstaged Harry for douchebag of the day.
Now go give yourself a reach around.

True North[_2_] May 28th 17 02:46 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole Â*wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?


You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. Â*I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day Â*(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"Congrats Don, You just upstaged Harry for douchebag of the day.
Now go give yourself a reach around."



Is that even possible?
One of you repugnants will have to describe how you do it.

[email protected] May 29th 17 04:17 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 6:46:45 AM UTC-7, True North wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 2:04:38 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole Â*wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be expected to advise the best course of action?

You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. Â*I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day Â*(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"Congrats Don, You just upstaged Harry for douchebag of the day.
Now go give yourself a reach around."



Is that even possible?
One of you repugnants will have to describe how you do it.


Seeing the pics of you standing next to 14" trailer tires I'd guess you to be all of 5'2" tall, bow legged and all.

Thats not to say you could'nt be a nice person if you tried, Its really "up" to you though.

I've met some really nice dwarfs in my life, and non of them seem to be as bitter as you.


[email protected] May 29th 17 05:46 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 5:04:41 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
Calif Swill guzzles...

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole Â*wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues..
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be
expected to advise the best course of action?

You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.


No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. Â*I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day Â*(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"You were not trying to be helpful. Â*But you were showcasing your stupidity
and being an asshole."


You hanging around on roofs again Swill?
Appears like you've suffered another injury to that soft noggin.


You seem to have larger than life issues with your dwarfisn, Why is that,
Care to comment?

Me myself, I'm jealous of people like you, I constantly have to get on my knees to check the oil window on my Ducati. What a pita!


Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 11:42 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Sun, 28 May 2017 21:46:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 5:04:41 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
Calif Swill guzzles...

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:12:01 UTC-3, Poco Deplorevole *wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2017 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Wait. Minute, Johnny.
At first you claimed she was ready to go but had some mobility issues.
Now you have her crawling out of her sick bed on crutches.
If you're going to play fast and loose with the facts, how can we be
expected to advise the best course of action?

You need to learn to read. Perhaps you're just too ****ing stupid to comprehend.

You've earned a place with slammer and noname.

No need to get ****ty, JohnnyMop. *I was just trying to help.
Oh wait a minute...we're only six hours away from the lord's Day *(ADT).
You tend to get your knickers all tied up in a knot every Sunday.


"You were not trying to be helpful. *But you were showcasing your stupidity
and being an asshole."


You hanging around on roofs again Swill?
Appears like you've suffered another injury to that soft noggin.


You seem to have larger than life issues with your dwarfisn, Why is that,
Care to comment?

Me myself, I'm jealous of people like you, I constantly have to get on my knees to check the oil window on my Ducati. What a pita!


Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!

Tim May 29th 17 03:14 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 

5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
......

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.

Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 03:34 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.


With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.

Keyser Soze May 29th 17 03:40 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.


With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

[email protected] May 29th 17 03:51 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.


Just remember in a 4WD, when you lose it, you lose all 4 wheels and
your car becomes a hockey puck.


Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 05:41 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.


With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.


If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid plate?

Bill[_12_] May 29th 17 06:40 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.


If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid plate?


When he screws up and drives over the stops in a parking lot.


Keyser Soze May 29th 17 07:15 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.


If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.

Mr. Luddite May 29th 17 07:21 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.


If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.



Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 07:32 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.



Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?

Mr. Luddite May 29th 17 08:14 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.



Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.





Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 08:18 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.


Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it. We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I thought it was very comfortable.

Mr. Luddite May 29th 17 08:21 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/2017 3:18 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.


Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it. We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I thought it was very comfortable.



I am really not fussy about cars anymore. As long as it is comfortable,
handles halfway decently and is reliable it suits me just fine.



Poco Deplorevole May 29th 17 08:31 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 3:18 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





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http://www.avg.com


Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.


Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it. We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I thought it was very comfortable.



I am really not fussy about cars anymore. As long as it is comfortable,
handles halfway decently and is reliable it suits me just fine.


I figure my pickup will last me 'til I die, especially if I become a motorcyclist organ donor.

Mr. Luddite May 29th 17 08:40 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/2017 3:31 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:21:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 3:18 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.

Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it. We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I thought it was very comfortable.



I am really not fussy about cars anymore. As long as it is comfortable,
handles halfway decently and is reliable it suits me just fine.


I figure my pickup will last me 'til I die, especially if I become a motorcyclist organ donor.


Yeah, your perspective on life changes when you realize the car you just
bought might be the last one you ever buy. :-)



True North[_2_] May 29th 17 09:42 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
"I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck."


WOW...I get mine changed twice a year at about $65.00 per. Of course every second visit (yearly) there are extras like replacing the the cabin filter, tightening bolts in the 4WD trainer, etc.

Bill[_12_] May 30th 17 12:48 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 3:18 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.


Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it.
We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I
thought it was very comfortable.



I am really not fussy about cars anymore. As long as it is comfortable,
handles halfway decently and is reliable it suits me just fine.




When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats.


True North[_2_] May 30th 17 02:29 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Bill says...
"When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Â*Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats."


Ard you talking about the 2nd row or the 3rd?
I have no problem.



Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 03:41 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
On 5/29/2017 7:48 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 3:18 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Monday, May 29, 2017 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 2:32 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 14:21:59 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/29/2017 2:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/29/17 12:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 10:40:44 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/29/17 10:34 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2017 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


5:42 AMPoco Deplorevole
- show quoted text -
Be glad you don't have an older Guzzi. Laying on the floor undoing
about 18 bolts to change the oil
filter. What a pita!
.....

Same process on a2000 guzzi Jackal only without the benefit of a
center stand.

With a center stand is a bitch. Without must be a double bitch.


As a nod to "superior" Japanese engineering and design, you have to
unbolt the skid plate on the front of my truck to change the oil
filter. :)

I think only the "offroad" 4WD models have the skidplate. If I lived in
the Souf', I would have skipped the 4WD altogether. But the two times I
drove in the snow this past winter, it was nice to have the traction and
control.

If you're not going to do any off-roading, why not take off the skid
plate?



I got "free" (ha!) oil and filter changes for life or something like
that when I bought the truck.


Free oil and filters for *life*? (yes, I noticed the "something like
that") :-)

I traded both my truck and the Altima that I bought last year in over
the weekend. Really didn't plan on it but you know how it goes.
Visit a dealership, they take your keys to check out your trade (I was
driving the truck) and they won't give them back or let you out until
they've tried every trick in the book to sell you a new car.

They won Saturday. But, I got free maintenance including oil and filter
changes for 3 years, not for life.





---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com


Well??? What's the rest of the story? Which Porsche are you driving now?


No way. Those days are over. I tried out a Toyota Highlander and a
Nissan Pathfinder ... both new, 2017 versions. Both were nice but I
liked the looks and some of the features on the Pathfinder more. It's a
little bigger than the Highlander and can tow up to 6,000 lbs or 1,000
more than the Toyota. The 2017 versions have more horsepower (284) and
I liked the fact that the 2nd and 3rd row seats fold completely flat, so
there's plenty of cargo space. Plus, the one I liked is loaded up with
a lot of options including heated seats and heated steering wheel, both
of which the Altima had and I got spoiled with last winter.

I also looked at a 2016 certified pre-owned Pathfinder but it didn't
have all the goodies that the 2017 had. So, I ended up with the new one.

I really didn't intend on buying anything. I just bought Mrs.E.'s
Quest a couple of weeks ago and was just curious about how those two
(the Toyota and the Pathfinder) were for climbing in and out of.
The Altima is a nice car but I found that having to climb *down* to get
in it and *up* to get out was getting to be a pain.

Gonna miss the truck. I bought it new in 2008. That's the longest
period of time that I've ever owned a vehicle. But, I just don't have a
need for a 3/4 ton truck anymore, nor a need for insurance on two
vehicles ... actually three counting Mrs.E.'s car.

Well, congrats on the new car. My daughter drives a Nissan and loves it.
We had a Highlander, but neither my wife (for whom it was bought) nor I
thought it was very comfortable.



I am really not fussy about cars anymore. As long as it is comfortable,
handles halfway decently and is reliable it suits me just fine.




When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats.


Same on the Pathfinder if the third row seats are up. You can fold the
headrests down though which helps. I'll probably never use the third
row seats though so they'll always be folded down flat.



Mr. Luddite May 30th 17 03:55 AM

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On 5/29/2017 9:29 PM, True North wrote:
Bill says...
"When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats."


Ard you talking about the 2nd row or the 3rd?
I have no problem.



Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row
folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall.

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Bill[_12_] May 30th 17 04:24 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
True North wrote:
Bill says...
"When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Â*Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats."


Ard you talking about the 2nd row or the 3rd?
I have no problem.




2009. Both rows.


Bill[_12_] May 30th 17 04:24 AM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/29/2017 9:29 PM, True North wrote:
Bill says...
"When looking at cars for the wife, we looked at the Highlander. Almost no
rear view with the headrests on the back seats."


Ard you talking about the 2nd row or the 3rd?
I have no problem.



Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row
folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. :-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall.

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We looked in 2009. They have changed the Highlander a lot since then body
wise.


True North[_2_] May 30th 17 01:26 PM

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Bill
- show quoted text -
"We looked in 2009. Â*They have changed the Highlander a lot since then body
wise."


I never put the 3rd row seats up. It would interfere with our Springer Spaniel's personal area.
Believe that 2009 was an earlier version of the 2nd generation Highlander. My 2013 is the last model year for the 2nd generation.

True North[_2_] May 30th 17 01:37 PM

Happy Memorial Day
 
Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row
folded down flat. Â*Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up
and their headrests up.

I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera
showed a "predictive" course when backing up. Â*The one in the Pathfinder
does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as
you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as
well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Â*Pretty
much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. Â*It has an 8 inch
display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. Â*It also has a
"sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything.

Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on
instruments rather than an actual view. Â*:-)

BTW, the Highlander was nice. Â*I think it had a softer ride than the
Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. Â*I just preferred the Nissan overall."



Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV pack most years
Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get 12 years out of it.
My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain small backup camera. No guide lines.
The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the guide lines.
The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy.


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