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On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up and their headrests up. I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall." Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV pack most years Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get 12 years out of it. My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain small backup camera. No guide lines. The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the guide lines. The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy. I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 5/30/17 9:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up and their headrests up. I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall." Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV pack most years Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get 12 years out of it. My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain small backup camera. No guide lines. The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the guide lines. The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy. I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com That's certainly a lot more "features" than on either of our current vintage Toyotas. |
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- show quoted text - I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. - show quoted text - ..... My wife is stuck on Honda CRV's. They're firm and very economical Micah to drive. However her newest one has more butt wipes than any previous ones. And like you said Richard, the touch screen to do anything can be a nightmare for me. Way to many switchs on the steering wheel as well. I shouldn't complain though. I drive my mercury and live it. About the only time I drive the Honda is when it's really low in gas... lol! |
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On 5/30/17 9:53 AM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. - show quoted text - .... My wife is stuck on Honda CRV's. They're firm and very economical Micah to drive. However her newest one has more butt wipes than any previous ones. And like you said Richard, the touch screen to do anything can be a nightmare for me. Way to many switchs on the steering wheel as well. I shouldn't complain though. I drive my mercury and live it. About the only time I drive the Honda is when it's really low in gas... lol! Once I determined the tire pressure sensors were sending accurate readings to the dash display, I decided I liked them. I like the radio volume switches on the steering wheel. I really haven't bothered with the rest of the techie stuff, other than to make sure it was all working. Too much "much," if you will. |
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9:00 AMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - Once I determined the tire pressure sensors were sending accurate readings to the dash display, I decided I liked them. I like the radio volume switches on the steering wheel. I really haven't bothered with the rest of the techie stuff, other than to make sure it was all working. Too much "much," if you will. ..... On the CRV there is a little tire indecator light that comes on but doesn't tell which tires are in question. You have to check them individually. I had this happen a week ago and found the right rear tire to be approximately 5 lb lower than the others. Filled it correctly and hit the clear button and good to go. I'm really kinda glad it came in because it gave me an opportunity to check the tires out and noticed that within 52,xxx miles they're starting to weather crack around the rims. I'll be getting her a new set soon, that is unless she trades it for another soon.,, |
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On 5/30/2017 9:34 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/30/17 9:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/30/2017 8:37 AM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "Rear view on the Pathfinder is ok with second row seats up and third row folded down flat. Rear view gets obstructed through with third row up and their headrests up. I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) BTW, the Highlander was nice. I think it had a softer ride than the Pathfinder which is a bit more stiff. I just preferred the Nissan overall." Consumers Reports has the Highlander at the top of the mid size SUV pack most years Rated tops for reliability which is important to me as I hope to get 12 years out of it. My Basic PLUS model (I have 4WD and the 3.5 engine) has the plain small backup camera. No guide lines. The higher end Highlanders came with a bigger screen and I believe the guide lines. The softer tide is great for most of my driving but I don't like it on a twisty turny road. Feels a little top heavy. I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com That's certainly a lot more "features" than on either of our current vintage Toyotas. Like I said, fun to play with but pretty much useless. I can see a benefit if I had a teenager who "borrowed" my car. I can look at the recorded history and see how he or she had been driving it. |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days) back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and the limb was above that view. I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed ****ed that the technology failed him. |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take your eyes off the road. The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you ;) |
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On 5/30/2017 12:19 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/30/17 11:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take your eyes off the road. The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you ;) I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-) I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view, both horizontal and vertical. Anything that would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera only looked at the ground behind the car. If I drop the tailgate, I have a clear view of the pavement underneath it. :) Greg doesn't trust or like anything made after 1965. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days) back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and the limb was above that view. I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed ****ed that the technology failed him. I did that to a Nissan POS in Costa Rica. No camera or sonar. But a branch jutting out from a tree. Hit the spare tire on the rear door. Another stupid idea. 5 mile an hour bumper that does not come in to play. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/30/17 9:53 AM, Tim wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. - show quoted text - .... My wife is stuck on Honda CRV's. They're firm and very economical Micah to drive. However her newest one has more butt wipes than any previous ones. And like you said Richard, the touch screen to do anything can be a nightmare for me. Way to many switchs on the steering wheel as well. I shouldn't complain though. I drive my mercury and live it. About the only time I drive the Honda is when it's really low in gas... lol! Once I determined the tire pressure sensors were sending accurate readings to the dash display, I decided I liked them. I like the radio volume switches on the steering wheel. I really haven't bothered with the rest of the techie stuff, other than to make sure it was all working. Too much "much," if you will. The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/30/17 11:56 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take your eyes off the road. The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you ;) I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-) I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view, both horizontal and vertical. Anything that would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera only looked at the ground behind the car. If I drop the tailgate, I have a clear view of the pavement underneath it. :) Problem with those tailgates is cost. My buddy did not lock his F150 tailgate. Someone stole it. $4300 to replace. |
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On 5/30/2017 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days) back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and the limb was above that view. I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed ****ed that the technology failed him. I did that to a Nissan POS in Costa Rica. No camera or sonar. But a branch jutting out from a tree. Hit the spare tire on the rear door. Another stupid idea. 5 mile an hour bumper that does not come in to play. I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder. The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle. There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken fairly high up. The right side is the combination of additional cameras on the vehicle that give you a 360 degree view of what's around you. If you come close to hitting something with the front or side of the car, a visual and audio warning goes off. There are also "sonar" sensors that warn of hitting anything anywhere. It's pretty cool. https://tinyurl.com/y7mwupwb --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:00:43 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 4:40 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days) back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and the limb was above that view. I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed ****ed that the technology failed him. I did that to a Nissan POS in Costa Rica. No camera or sonar. But a branch jutting out from a tree. Hit the spare tire on the rear door. Another stupid idea. 5 mile an hour bumper that does not come in to play. I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder. The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle. There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken fairly high up. The right side is the combination of additional cameras on the vehicle that give you a 360 degree view of what's around you. If you come close to hitting something with the front or side of the car, a visual and audio warning goes off. There are also "sonar" sensors that warn of hitting anything anywhere. It's pretty cool. https://tinyurl.com/y7mwupwb The Audi has that. If you read the manual, it'll tell you that the short horizontal lines on each side are measurements that indicate how far you are from an obstruction. Also, those cameras are great for getting a hitch lined up when you don't have a spotter helping. |
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- show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. |
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On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. The problem with Sirius and XM is that the sound quality sucks big-time. If you have the base stereo it may not be that noticeable, but with a better quality one the sound is very "flat" with almost no stereo image. It's highly compressed. I dropped my subscription. MP3's sound far better. I can rip CD's to a high bit-rate MP3 and play them from a memory stick or transfer them to the "jukebox", which is nothing but a hard drive in the car used to store music. Then there's always HD FM, which is even better. The high quality iTunes songs are good, too. |
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On 5/30/2017 5:46 PM, True North wrote:
Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. Me too. I have both the 60's channel and the 50's channel preset. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 5/30/2017 6:04 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. The problem with Sirius and XM is that the sound quality sucks big-time. If you have the base stereo it may not be that noticeable, but with a better quality one the sound is very "flat" with almost no stereo image. It's highly compressed. I dropped my subscription. MP3's sound far better. I can rip CD's to a high bit-rate MP3 and play them from a memory stick or transfer them to the "jukebox", which is nothing but a hard drive in the car used to store music. Then there's always HD FM, which is even better. The high quality iTunes songs are good, too. Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly "High Def" anyway, so I don't mind. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:31:05 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 6:04 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-4, True North wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. The problem with Sirius and XM is that the sound quality sucks big-time.. If you have the base stereo it may not be that noticeable, but with a better quality one the sound is very "flat" with almost no stereo image. It's highly compressed. I dropped my subscription. MP3's sound far better. I can rip CD's to a high bit-rate MP3 and play them from a memory stick or transfer them to the "jukebox", which is nothing but a hard drive in the car used to store music. Then there's always HD FM, which is even better. The high quality iTunes songs are good, too. Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly "High Def" anyway, so I don't mind. That's true. I listen to '70s rock and modern country, so it's a bit more noticeable on the '70s stuff and in your face with any modern music. |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 11:56:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 5/30/2017 11:33 AM, wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2017 09:26:19 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I am discovering more interesting (but pretty much useless) features on the Pathfinder. The display is a touch screen and if you select "Apps" several displays come up that you can select. The first is a graphical display of fuel economy, fuel flow rate and miles to empty. The next page is a vertical graph and a pointer showing how hard you are steering and in what direction in turns and maps a history of the turns you make by how severe they were. The next page shows a large circle with graduations within and a small, solid ball in the center. It displays G forces during acceleration, de-acceleration, and lateral G forces in turns. Stupid, but sorta fun to watch as long as I don't hit a tree while mesmerized by the stupid display. There's another display mode that scores your driving habits, measuring how fast you accelerate, braking habits and some other factors. It constantly updates and gives you a score from 0-100. It also keeps a memory of past scores that you can compare to. I think it is amazing that they have laws about talking on a cell phone and then sell cars with this kind of distraction right on the dash. The whole reason why they had pushbutton radios was so you would not be distracted by turning a dial. Now they have entertainment centers that take your full time and attention, just to turn on and get to the input you want. Nothing can be done with muscle memory, you have to look. I still prefer my old PC based MP3 players with a 10 key numeric pad interface. If you can run a 10 key you never had to take your eyes off the road. The rest of those displays are just a wreck waiting to happen. At least your family will know the g force of the wreck that killed you ;) I figured you of all people would get a kick out of this stuff. :-) I agree, most of it is useless but the display, being a touch screen, is not any more complicated to use than dials, if not easier for making changes in just about anything. Your post about the guy backing into a tree limb is surprising because the backup camera gives a wide view, both horizontal and vertical. Anything that would hit my rear window or roof is clearly visible. Maybe his camera only looked at the ground behind the car. My guess is the tree itself looked pretty far away and he ignored the broken off limb that was pointing pretty much straight at him.. It would have also been out of view when he got that close. You certainly would have seen it if you looked in the rear view mirror or, better, actually turned around and looked |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 12:37:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Greg doesn't trust or like anything made after 1965. With cars, make that 1967 ;-) |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 17:00:31 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder. The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle. There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a . guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken fairly high up. We have that on the Santa Fe we rented here and it has been on most of our recent rentals. (3 or 4 years anyway). I still turn around and look The only time it has really seemed useful was when I was turning around on a narrow road with a cliff behind me. |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 14:46:29 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. We always bring our own tunes. I used to have to pack a cable for an MP3 player to plug into the radio and a FM modulator before that but these a these days all of the cars seem to have a USB port so I just need a thumb stick in my pocket. Plugging it in is about the first thing I do when I get in a rentacar. The Chrysler van I rented on my Ski trip had a hard drive in it and I loaded the whole stick out there. |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 18:30:52 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Most of the original recordings from the 60's and 50's aren't exactly "High Def" anyway, so I don't mind. Exactly Most of the "singles" were mastered to play on the radio, even up into the 70s/early 80s and unless it was re mastered the quality was pretty "thin". Some of the LP stuff was a bit better but they still re mastered what they could for CDs. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/30/2017 4:40 PM, Bill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2017 22:55:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I didn't notice on the Highlander that I tried if the backup camera showed a "predictive" course when backing up. The one in the Pathfinder does ... meaning as you back up there is a outlined box that moves as you turn the steering wheel indicating were you are moving towards as well as additional cameras that show the front corners as well. Pretty much gives you an all around view of the vehicle. It has an 8 inch display screen, so it's pretty easy to see everything. It also has a "sonar" system warning that lets you now if you are going to hit anything. Reminds me of flying lessons when you have to rely totally on instruments rather than an actual view. :-) We watched a guy in some kind of SUV (they all look alike these days) back right into a tree limb and break out the back glass. He was staring at his camera display, depending on the beeper, I guess and the limb was above that view. I tried hollering at him but I assume the music was blasting or he just was not taking advice from red necks that day. He sure seemed ****ed that the technology failed him. I did that to a Nissan POS in Costa Rica. No camera or sonar. But a branch jutting out from a tree. Hit the spare tire on the rear door. Another stupid idea. 5 mile an hour bumper that does not come in to play. I took a picture earlier of the back up display in the Pathfinder. The left side of the display is the area directly behind the vehicle. There's a yellow box that twists and moves to the left or right as you back up, responded to the direction the back of the car is going. Nissan calls this "Predictive Display". The bright area on the bottom is a guard on top of the rear bumper, so you can see that the image is taken fairly high up. The right side is the combination of additional cameras on the vehicle that give you a 360 degree view of what's around you. If you come close to hitting something with the front or side of the car, a visual and audio warning goes off. There are also "sonar" sensors that warn of hitting anything anywhere. It's pretty cool. https://tinyurl.com/y7mwupwb --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com My daughters 2011 Sienna has that type display. The Alpine system in my truck shows cones. |
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True North wrote:
Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. |
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On Tue, 30 May 2017 18:29:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 5/30/2017 5:46 PM, True North wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. Me too. I have both the 60's channel and the 50's channel preset. Holy smokes! I can't believe you folks don't all have Bluegrass Junction, channel 62, preset! |
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On Wed, 31 May 2017 05:10:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
True North wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. *While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. When I bought the truck it had Sirius XM. The original owner must have bought a lifetime subscription, like my wife did, way back when. I've never had to renew anything or paid anything, and I've had the truck for seven years now. |
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On Wednesday, 31 May 2017 02:13:33 UTC-3, Bill wrote:
True North wrote: Bill - show quoted text - "The one switch the Toyota misses on the steering wheel is the radio seek button. Â*While traveling, have to go to the far side of the radio to seek." The last week or so has been a free preview time for Sirius XM Radio. What a treat...I favour the '60s tunes. No seeking required. My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. The cheapest they offered me was $72.00 US per year. That translates into just over $100.00 CDN for something I'd really only use 6 months of the year.. In the winter/spring I only make short trips to the park for the dog, shopping etc. I'd sign up for around $50.00 for six months. |
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On Wed, 31 May 2017 05:10:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote: My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. If you cancel it there are all sorts of deals that they offer to get you back |
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On Wed, 31 May 2017 05:10:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. If you cancel it there are all sorts of deals that they offer to get you back They called yesterday. I asked about 3 vehicles deal. When the guy went in to the $25 for 4 months spiel. I hung up after telling him, if you can not listen to me, forget it. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/31/17 10:14 AM, wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2017 05:10:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. If you cancel it there are all sorts of deals that they offer to get you back I tried the "free trial" but hardly ever found anything "channels" that could compete with the two classical music FM stations or intelligent talk radio stations that serve this area. We drive a lot to Los Angeles. From about los Banos to the Grapevine we get Kings Radio. 103.3 FM. One of the best stations for,music anywhere. Local to to Tulare I think. 40,50,60's music little talk. Other than that it is Mexican music or talk stations. MX music is nice for a short time. |
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On Wed, 31 May 2017 05:10:03 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: My volt has XM for another couple months. Heard they will deal. Maybe get all 3 vehicles for $120 a year. If you cancel it there are all sorts of deals that they offer to get you back ..... My wife threatened to cancel and he's I'm not sure if the rate but it was a price she couldn't refuse. I think it was half the normal sub rate... |
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