On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:31:25 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:02:46 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:21:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:


Last week went to LA for a sports show. Looked at a 2014 Chevy Volt as a
3rd vehicle, so I did not drive the crew cab truck around town and look for
big parking place, and wearing out a truck that costs 80 grand to,replace.
Car was in Hanford, couple hundred miles from home. Liked the car and
color, not white or silver, and bought it. So far very happy. Have
plugged it in twice to charge. Takes a long time on 120V. So may put a
240v outlet in and buy a level 2 charger. Have not used the gas motor
since purchase. Did Uhaul trailer the car home. Quiet, smooth running.
Signed up for the EV electric rate. 11 cents a Kilowatt hour at night,
instead of 47 cents. VIP stickers for single person use of the carpool
lanes. Thanks neighbors for subsidizing my electric use. So far happy
with the car.

Your Volt takes the place of my motorcycle. I hate using the truck for 'around town' trips. One of
these days I'll get serious about taking the motorcycle to the golf course. Then the truck would
just sit until it was time to go camping somewhere.

I used to take my Harley skeet shooting. I did get a few looks with
the shotgun rack on the front fork. I imagine I would get arrested in
the current People's Republic of Maryland.
I use my Prelude for errands but I could not justify the expense of an
electric conversion for the little I drive. The payback was decades.

I wanted to take the Mosin Nagant to an outdoor range about an hour away from the house. I didn't
want to take the truck, but, like you, strap the rifle on my back and take the motorcycle. I stopped
a cop at a grocery store and asked him if it was okay to do that. He said it was not against the
law. But, he said that we lived in probably the most liberal county in America and someone would be
calling the cops about every ten minutes reporting a motorcyclist brandishing a rifle. We, he
continued, would have to respond to each call, even though you were doing nothing illegal. It would
be a big pain in the butt for the cops and for me.

But, I may one day take the Mosin apart and put it in a golf bag to tote out there on the
motorcycle.

I just welded up a bracket that bolted onto the forks. A Harley has
some tapped holes there for a windshield that I never had. It was
still banging around in the garage here for a while but I am not sure
were it went. It may be in the shed. When I was going south to shoot
with my buddies and I took my 97, I just dropped into the rack but on
the beltway I had my skeet gun in a case.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:53:30 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I see a lot of Ford Edges around here. If your other choice was a Jeep
you made the right choice. I hear and read about a lot of problems with
Jeep vehicles.

My wife's Lincoln is just an Edge with a better trim package. I think
it may have a little better ride (advertised) but when we rented an
Edge, it seemed the same to me.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:21:38 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:31:25 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:02:46 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:21:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:


Last week went to LA for a sports show. Looked at a 2014 Chevy Volt as a
3rd vehicle, so I did not drive the crew cab truck around town and look for
big parking place, and wearing out a truck that costs 80 grand to,replace.
Car was in Hanford, couple hundred miles from home. Liked the car and
color, not white or silver, and bought it. So far very happy. Have
plugged it in twice to charge. Takes a long time on 120V. So may put a
240v outlet in and buy a level 2 charger. Have not used the gas motor
since purchase. Did Uhaul trailer the car home. Quiet, smooth running.
Signed up for the EV electric rate. 11 cents a Kilowatt hour at night,
instead of 47 cents. VIP stickers for single person use of the carpool
lanes. Thanks neighbors for subsidizing my electric use. So far happy
with the car.

Your Volt takes the place of my motorcycle. I hate using the truck for 'around town' trips. One of
these days I'll get serious about taking the motorcycle to the golf course. Then the truck would
just sit until it was time to go camping somewhere.

I used to take my Harley skeet shooting. I did get a few looks with
the shotgun rack on the front fork. I imagine I would get arrested in
the current People's Republic of Maryland.
I use my Prelude for errands but I could not justify the expense of an
electric conversion for the little I drive. The payback was decades.

I wanted to take the Mosin Nagant to an outdoor range about an hour away from the house. I didn't
want to take the truck, but, like you, strap the rifle on my back and take the motorcycle. I stopped
a cop at a grocery store and asked him if it was okay to do that. He said it was not against the
law. But, he said that we lived in probably the most liberal county in America and someone would be
calling the cops about every ten minutes reporting a motorcyclist brandishing a rifle. We, he
continued, would have to respond to each call, even though you were doing nothing illegal. It would
be a big pain in the butt for the cops and for me.

But, I may one day take the Mosin apart and put it in a golf bag to tote out there on the
motorcycle.

I just welded up a bracket that bolted onto the forks. A Harley has
some tapped holes there for a windshield that I never had. It was
still banging around in the garage here for a while but I am not sure
were it went. It may be in the shed. When I was going south to shoot
with my buddies and I took my 97, I just dropped into the rack but on
the beltway I had my skeet gun in a case.

Your '97'? Was that the motorcycle or a gun? You had a gun case attached to the front forks of your
Harley? I couldn't do that to the Guzzi. I use the windshield. Too pussy to spend hours with the
wind beating me to death.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:30:34 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I took my 97, I just dropped into the rack but on
the beltway I had my skeet gun in a case.

Your '97'?

1897 Winchester. Bike was a 72 Superglide.

Was that the motorcycle or a gun? You had a gun case attached to the front forks of your
Harley?
Yes

I couldn't do that to the Guzzi. I use the windshield. Too pussy to spend hours with the
wind beating me to death.

I suppose you could use the same bolts if you got some 4MM or so
longer

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:57:35 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:30:34 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I took my 97, I just dropped into the rack but on
the beltway I had my skeet gun in a case.

Your '97'?

1897 Winchester. Bike was a 72 Superglide.

Was that the motorcycle or a gun? You had a gun case attached to the front forks of your
Harley?
Yes

I couldn't do that to the Guzzi. I use the windshield. Too pussy to spend hours with the
wind beating me to death.

I suppose you could use the same bolts if you got some 4MM or so
longer

This is an aftermarket windshield that has special-made brackets held on to the forks with muffler
clamps and onto the handlebars with adjustable brackets. This one:

http://www.nationalcycle.com/plexifairing-hd.html

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/11/17 9:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:21:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Last week went to LA for a sports show. Looked at a 2014 Chevy
Volt as a
3rd vehicle, so I did not drive the crew cab truck around town and
look for
big parking place, and wearing out a truck that costs 80 grand
to,replace.
Car was in Hanford, couple hundred miles from home. Liked the car and
color, not white or silver, and bought it. So far very happy. Have
plugged it in twice to charge. Takes a long time on 120V. So may
put a
240v outlet in and buy a level 2 charger. Have not used the gas motor
since purchase. Did Uhaul trailer the car home. Quiet, smooth
running.
Signed up for the EV electric rate. 11 cents a Kilowatt hour at
night,
instead of 47 cents. VIP stickers for single person use of the
carpool
lanes. Thanks neighbors for subsidizing my electric use. So far happy
with the car.

Your Volt takes the place of my motorcycle. I hate using the truck
for 'around town' trips. One of
these days I'll get serious about taking the motorcycle to the golf
course. Then the truck would
just sit until it was time to go camping somewhere.

I used to take my Harley skeet shooting. I did get a few looks with
the shotgun rack on the front fork. I imagine I would get arrested in
the current People's Republic of Maryland.
I use my Prelude for errands but I could not justify the expense of an
electric conversion for the little I drive. The payback was decades.


As my wife doesn't usually drive to work, I use her Camry for errands.
Six speed auto, 36-38 mpg on the highway, 31-33 mpg around town.
Truck, six speed manual, gets 21 mpg around town, 24-27 mpg if I'm
careful with the accelerator on the highway. Less in the occasional
bumper-to-bumper traffic I encounter. Only had one opportunity so far
to use the truck's 4WD in snow, and it was just fine, better than I
had anticipated for a pick-me-up truck. If we lived in the real south,
I would have skipped the 4WD.


What compelled you to post that? It has zero to do with the topic. It's
great that you own two Toyota's!

On 3/11/17 10:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/11/17 9:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:21:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Last week went to LA for a sports show. Looked at a 2014 Chevy
Volt as a
3rd vehicle, so I did not drive the crew cab truck around town and
look for
big parking place, and wearing out a truck that costs 80 grand
to,replace.
Car was in Hanford, couple hundred miles from home. Liked the car and
color, not white or silver, and bought it. So far very happy. Have
plugged it in twice to charge. Takes a long time on 120V. So may
put a
240v outlet in and buy a level 2 charger. Have not used the gas motor
since purchase. Did Uhaul trailer the car home. Quiet, smooth
running.
Signed up for the EV electric rate. 11 cents a Kilowatt hour at
night,
instead of 47 cents. VIP stickers for single person use of the
carpool
lanes. Thanks neighbors for subsidizing my electric use. So far happy
with the car.

Your Volt takes the place of my motorcycle. I hate using the truck
for 'around town' trips. One of
these days I'll get serious about taking the motorcycle to the golf
course. Then the truck would
just sit until it was time to go camping somewhere.

I used to take my Harley skeet shooting. I did get a few looks with
the shotgun rack on the front fork. I imagine I would get arrested in
the current People's Republic of Maryland.
I use my Prelude for errands but I could not justify the expense of an
electric conversion for the little I drive. The payback was decades.


As my wife doesn't usually drive to work, I use her Camry for errands.
Six speed auto, 36-38 mpg on the highway, 31-33 mpg around town.
Truck, six speed manual, gets 21 mpg around town, 24-27 mpg if I'm
careful with the accelerator on the highway. Less in the occasional
bumper-to-bumper traffic I encounter. Only had one opportunity so far
to use the truck's 4WD in snow, and it was just fine, better than I
had anticipated for a pick-me-up truck. If we lived in the real south,
I would have skipped the 4WD.


What compelled you to post that? It has zero to do with the topic. It's
great that you own two Toyota's!


Perhaps I wanted to see if you were still Pavlov's doggie. Woof for us,
Alex. Oh, wait...you did.

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/11/17 10:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/11/17 9:02 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:21:21 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 03:34:56 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:


Last week went to LA for a sports show. Looked at a 2014 Chevy
Volt as a
3rd vehicle, so I did not drive the crew cab truck around town and
look for
big parking place, and wearing out a truck that costs 80 grand
to,replace.
Car was in Hanford, couple hundred miles from home. Liked the car
and
color, not white or silver, and bought it. So far very happy. Have
plugged it in twice to charge. Takes a long time on 120V. So may
put a
240v outlet in and buy a level 2 charger. Have not used the gas
motor
since purchase. Did Uhaul trailer the car home. Quiet, smooth
running.
Signed up for the EV electric rate. 11 cents a Kilowatt hour at
night,
instead of 47 cents. VIP stickers for single person use of the
carpool
lanes. Thanks neighbors for subsidizing my electric use. So far
happy
with the car.

Your Volt takes the place of my motorcycle. I hate using the truck
for 'around town' trips. One of
these days I'll get serious about taking the motorcycle to the golf
course. Then the truck would
just sit until it was time to go camping somewhere.

I used to take my Harley skeet shooting. I did get a few looks with
the shotgun rack on the front fork. I imagine I would get arrested in
the current People's Republic of Maryland.
I use my Prelude for errands but I could not justify the expense of an
electric conversion for the little I drive. The payback was decades.


As my wife doesn't usually drive to work, I use her Camry for errands.
Six speed auto, 36-38 mpg on the highway, 31-33 mpg around town.
Truck, six speed manual, gets 21 mpg around town, 24-27 mpg if I'm
careful with the accelerator on the highway. Less in the occasional
bumper-to-bumper traffic I encounter. Only had one opportunity so far
to use the truck's 4WD in snow, and it was just fine, better than I
had anticipated for a pick-me-up truck. If we lived in the real south,
I would have skipped the 4WD.


What compelled you to post that? It has zero to do with the topic. It's
great that you own two Toyota's!


Perhaps I wanted to see if you were still Pavlov's doggie. Woof for
us, Alex. Oh, wait...you did.
Nice try, narcissist.