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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:35:20 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/21/16 4:04 PM, wrote: Harry is still so bum ****ed over the election that he is just sitting in the corner babbling and striking out at anything nearby. Unfortunately he is sharing it with us. I bet the Mrs just wants to stay at work because it is unbearable at home. At least she gets paid to deal with disfunctional people at work. There you go again. As usual, you are wrong. What, she doesn't get paid to deal with disfunctional people at work? |
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On 11/21/2016 6:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/21/16 6:13 PM, justan wrote: Poquito Loco Wrote in message: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 14:15:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 1:41 PM, justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: True North wrote: On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:19:07 UTC-4, Califbill wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles... - show quoted text - "You mean the Crown Corporation does not cover any health insurance? Supplemental? All Canadians pay for health care. Some more than others. All pay with a near buck a liter tax on gasoline. And those who pay income tax, at,least 50%. Plus what's the VAT tax in your province?" Say what? Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. How could we be paying a buck a liter taxes? Income tax of 50 per cent? You'd have to make a pretty good income to pay that much. I've paid income tax all my life and never paid that. Last trip to BC. Was $1.19 a liter. Add up your taxes, and see what the percentage is. Sorry, meant a buck a gallon. 3.7 liters per gallon. So close to $3.60 a gallon. Probably $2.40 a gallon for US average. Your income is on the low end., so expect low tax rates on your income Low end? What would you consider "low end" Swill? Your income. You are a retired janitor. How much did you make a year? How much is your pension? How much did you save? You only look at cheap boats, not what you would really like. Impressed with a person you can crew on with a 30' boat. I was a professional Silicon Valley engineer. Most likely a 5x factor salary of a janitor at least. Stock options, not granted to a janitor. They are easy to hire. A good engineer? Much harder to hire. Companies compete on salary, benefits, options, and how interesting the job is. I turned down a job at Sandisk, for a biomedical engineering job, as it was more interesting, then doing the firmware for a SCSI interface memory chip. There isn't much room to store a decent size boat on a 4000sf lot along with his house, a car, and a couple of out houses. You've heard him complain about how difficult it is to place his little boat in storage. Well, mine is hard to back into it's garage at the storage yard. Thinking of putting a front hitch on the truck. Hard to get a 45' long rig to turn into an storage structure with a not real wide lane in front. Donnie's car isn't capable of wearing a front hitch. You ought to be more careful, you coward. You never know when a Trumpster might come by and grab your pussy. Truly mature behavior, eh Krause? The fact that he maintains some privacy just drives you up a wall doesn't it? In the Army, we'd say, "Tough ****, Krause." The fact that nutcases like Harry exist and don't recieve psychiatric care is reason enough to maintain minimal anonimity. You maintain minimal anonymity because you're a scared little pussy and you're afraid that someday someone you insult here will show up at your front door and punch you in the nose. It won't be me, but when it happens and I hear of it, I'll have a long laugh at your expense, scared little pussy. My, my. Harry used the "P" word. Twice. |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:58:11 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 11/21/16 5:44 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? In Maryland the "1/2 ton pickup" was a catch all for anything with a (load) bed and less than 6000 GWV. Florida is the same way. What else would you call a vehicle with a bed in the back? It certainly is not a sedan. I assume your only contact with titling cars is paying a "professional" service and putting on the tags. (Or is this just something else you were "800" on and then forgot)? Since the US is the largest market for Canadian built cars, I assume they have similar vehicle standards. Actually, we typically let the dealer do the title work...takes less time than going to the DMV, usually. My 4Runner had a bed in the back. It was based on a Toyota truck chassis and engine. Put a custom cap on the truck and you have what, an SUV? OK I acknowledge the reason for your ignorance of the issue. The designation of vehicle type is on the manufacturer's Certificate of Origin that you present to DMV the first time the vehicle enters the title system (hence my reference to Canada and their US market). In the case of my dune buggy, I was the manufacturer and I got to decide what to call it as long as it met the DMV guideline at the time. A car was inspected, a truck wasn't so the trick to get a dune buggy on the road was to have a little bed in the back and title it as a truck. In the case of these little car frames with truck or SUV bodies, the manufacturer decides what to call them, within certain limits. If it has an open bed it will be a 1/2 ton pickup tho. It is when it has a metal fully enclosed bed that it can be a car, a truck or a utility vehicle. My Suburban was titled as a car and it had the Chevy "C" body truck chassis. My "Jeepster" (72 Jeep Commando) was 1000 pounds lighter and it was a utility vehicle. If it was ordered without the full top, it was a truck. |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:32:14 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: But it probably would fit up your cowardly ass, which assuredly was plumbed many times in those navy washrooms, eh, pussy? Why the constant fascination with anal sex? Something in your past you are not telling us or is it just curiosity? |
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Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 12:37:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. That would be almost $4US a gallon and we are paying less than $2 in Ft Myers. There dollar is only about .86 of our dollar last I looked. I think it's closer to $.75. |
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"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 11/21/2016 6:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 6:13 PM, justan wrote: Poquito Loco Wrote in message: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 14:15:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 1:41 PM, justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: True North wrote: On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:19:07 UTC-4, Califbill wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles... - show quoted text - "You mean the Crown Corporation does not cover any health insurance? Supplemental? All Canadians pay for health care. Some more than others. All pay with a near buck a liter tax on gasoline. And those who pay income tax, at,least 50%. Plus what's the VAT tax in your province?" Say what? Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. How could we be paying a buck a liter taxes? Income tax of 50 per cent? You'd have to make a pretty good income to pay that much. I've paid income tax all my life and never paid that. Last trip to BC. Was $1.19 a liter. Add up your taxes, and see what the percentage is. Sorry, meant a buck a gallon. 3.7 liters per gallon. So close to $3.60 a gallon. Probably $2.40 a gallon for US average. Your income is on the low end., so expect low tax rates on your income Low end? What would you consider "low end" Swill? Your income. You are a retired janitor. How much did you make a year? How much is your pension? How much did you save? You only look at cheap boats, not what you would really like. Impressed with a person you can crew on with a 30' boat. I was a professional Silicon Valley engineer. Most likely a 5x factor salary of a janitor at least. Stock options, not granted to a janitor. They are easy to hire. A good engineer? Much harder to hire. Companies compete on salary, benefits, options, and how interesting the job is. I turned down a job at Sandisk, for a biomedical engineering job, as it was more interesting, then doing the firmware for a SCSI interface memory chip. There isn't much room to store a decent size boat on a 4000sf lot along with his house, a car, and a couple of out houses. You've heard him complain about how difficult it is to place his little boat in storage. Well, mine is hard to back into it's garage at the storage yard. Thinking of putting a front hitch on the truck. Hard to get a 45' long rig to turn into an storage structure with a not real wide lane in front. Donnie's car isn't capable of wearing a front hitch. You ought to be more careful, you coward. You never know when a Trumpster might come by and grab your pussy. Truly mature behavior, eh Krause? The fact that he maintains some privacy just drives you up a wall doesn't it? In the Army, we'd say, "Tough ****, Krause." The fact that nutcases like Harry exist and don't recieve psychiatric care is reason enough to maintain minimal anonimity. You maintain minimal anonymity because you're a scared little pussy and you're afraid that someday someone you insult here will show up at your front door and punch you in the nose. It won't be me, but when it happens and I hear of it, I'll have a long laugh at your expense, scared little pussy. My, my. Harry used the "P" word. Twice. His brain stutters and he stammers and stumbles. There's something seriously wrong with him besides the sleep apnea and osteopenia. The old goat is a mess. -- x |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:08:08 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
Califbill - show quoted text - "How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? *Where is the load bed? *In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases." You miss the point, Swill. I don't rate it as a truck...Toyota does as do the Nova Scotia Registry of Motor Vehicles and my insurance company. Now, I realize few of them were ever Silicone Valley engineers but they seem confident in their ratings. I just call it my Highlander. Is that name-calling your 'Christian' behavior? |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:14:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/21/2016 6:20 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 6:13 PM, justan wrote: Poquito Loco Wrote in message: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 14:15:16 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 1:41 PM, justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: justan wrote: Califbill Wrote in message: True North wrote: On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:19:07 UTC-4, Califbill wrote: True North wrote: Kalif Swill guzzles... - show quoted text - "You mean the Crown Corporation does not cover any health insurance? Supplemental? All Canadians pay for health care. Some more than others. All pay with a near buck a liter tax on gasoline. And those who pay income tax, at,least 50%. Plus what's the VAT tax in your province?" Say what? Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. How could we be paying a buck a liter taxes? Income tax of 50 per cent? You'd have to make a pretty good income to pay that much. I've paid income tax all my life and never paid that. Last trip to BC. Was $1.19 a liter. Add up your taxes, and see what the percentage is. Sorry, meant a buck a gallon. 3.7 liters per gallon. So close to $3.60 a gallon. Probably $2.40 a gallon for US average. Your income is on the low end., so expect low tax rates on your income Low end? What would you consider "low end" Swill? Your income. You are a retired janitor. How much did you make a year? How much is your pension? How much did you save? You only look at cheap boats, not what you would really like. Impressed with a person you can crew on with a 30' boat. I was a professional Silicon Valley engineer. Most likely a 5x factor salary of a janitor at least. Stock options, not granted to a janitor. They are easy to hire. A good engineer? Much harder to hire. Companies compete on salary, benefits, options, and how interesting the job is. I turned down a job at Sandisk, for a biomedical engineering job, as it was more interesting, then doing the firmware for a SCSI interface memory chip. There isn't much room to store a decent size boat on a 4000sf lot along with his house, a car, and a couple of out houses. You've heard him complain about how difficult it is to place his little boat in storage. Well, mine is hard to back into it's garage at the storage yard. Thinking of putting a front hitch on the truck. Hard to get a 45' long rig to turn into an storage structure with a not real wide lane in front. Donnie's car isn't capable of wearing a front hitch. You ought to be more careful, you coward. You never know when a Trumpster might come by and grab your pussy. Truly mature behavior, eh Krause? The fact that he maintains some privacy just drives you up a wall doesn't it? In the Army, we'd say, "Tough ****, Krause." The fact that nutcases like Harry exist and don't recieve psychiatric care is reason enough to maintain minimal anonimity. You maintain minimal anonymity because you're a scared little pussy and you're afraid that someday someone you insult here will show up at your front door and punch you in the nose. It won't be me, but when it happens and I hear of it, I'll have a long laugh at your expense, scared little pussy. My, my. Harry used the "P" word. Twice. Maturity defined. |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:32:14 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/21/16 6:23 PM, justan wrote: True North Wrote in message: Califbill - show quoted text - "How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases." You miss the point, Swill. I don't rate it as a truck...Toyota does as do the Nova Scotia Registry of Motor Vehicles and my insurance company. Now, I realize few of them were ever Silicone Valley engineers but they seem confident in their ratings. I just call it my Highlander. A real truck wouldn't fit in your driveway. But it probably would fit up your cowardly ass, which assuredly was plumbed many times in those navy washrooms, eh, pussy? *Real* maturity. Donnie must love it. You're talking about rectums, his favorite subject. |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 19:21:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/21/16 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 4:35 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Perhaps you should take that up with the government of Nova Scotia or Canada, since it bothers you so much, eh? Hmmm. My old SUV shared a chassis with the Toyota truck. If you put a cap with windows and a door on the back, the truck was very much like a "closed SUV." Words, they'll really **** you over, Woz. Did your "truck" have a truck bed? My old SUV had a large flat area behind the front seats that certainly could be called a truck bed. But then, you called the barn 'yours'. What to believe, eh Krause? I can just see you dumping a yard of mulch into the 'flat area behind the front seats', eh Krause? |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:20:09 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 5:11:36 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/20/16 11:17 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 8:14:53 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 12:37:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. That would be almost $4US a gallon and we are paying less than $2 in Ft Myers. 1.82per gal in Effingham IL today. And that's whith gobs of taxes applied per gal. too And not only that, but Effingham has an ugly steel cross that its sponsors believe is one of the "largest" in the United States, 198 feet tall, making the town a "must see" for, well, I suppose, cross lovers looking for cheap gasoline. I don't know why you say it's "ugly" when it's actually quite beautifully maintained with a great access and lawn surrounding it. say it's a "must see" unless you're traveling down that 4-lane, then it really is kind of hard to miss it. http://www.effinghamil.com/sites/def...?itok=W-6aJiS_ But it's way out of town and not in shight of the cheap gasoline stations. But criticize all you want Harry, neither you or any organization can do anything to remove it. It's been tried by individual lawsuits many times over. Harry much prefers this: http://tinyurl.com/zgsqpfr |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( |
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:36:23 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:58:11 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/21/16 5:44 PM, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? In Maryland the "1/2 ton pickup" was a catch all for anything with a (load) bed and less than 6000 GWV. Florida is the same way. What else would you call a vehicle with a bed in the back? It certainly is not a sedan. I assume your only contact with titling cars is paying a "professional" service and putting on the tags. (Or is this just something else you were "800" on and then forgot)? Since the US is the largest market for Canadian built cars, I assume they have similar vehicle standards. Actually, we typically let the dealer do the title work...takes less time than going to the DMV, usually. My 4Runner had a bed in the back. It was based on a Toyota truck chassis and engine. Put a custom cap on the truck and you have what, an SUV? OK I acknowledge the reason for your ignorance of the issue. The designation of vehicle type is on the manufacturer's Certificate of Origin that you present to DMV the first time the vehicle enters the title system (hence my reference to Canada and their US market). In the case of my dune buggy, I was the manufacturer and I got to decide what to call it as long as it met the DMV guideline at the time. A car was inspected, a truck wasn't so the trick to get a dune buggy on the road was to have a little bed in the back and title it as a truck. In the case of these little car frames with truck or SUV bodies, the manufacturer decides what to call them, within certain limits. If it has an open bed it will be a 1/2 ton pickup tho. It is when it has a metal fully enclosed bed that it can be a car, a truck or a utility vehicle. My Suburban was titled as a car and it had the Chevy "C" body truck chassis. My "Jeepster" (72 Jeep Commando) was 1000 pounds lighter and it was a utility vehicle. If it was ordered without the full top, it was a truck. The Ford 1/2 ton has a towing capacity from 50% to 100% (depending on engine) greater than the 4Runner. I wouldn't put the 4Runner in the same category. Maybe closer to the Tacoma. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 04:50:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( *If* I were going to get another Moto Guzzi, it'd be the Stelvio. But, if I were going to buy another bike of any kind, I think I'd get a Honda ST1300, if it's big enough for my legs. I've not sat on one. I like what I've heard about them, I like the style, and I like the fact that service departments are readily available. But, I can't see anything replacing my Mille GT until I'm so decrepit I need a scooter. Then it'll be the Honda Silverwing scooter. |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:50:54 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Oh man, that is so misfortune. Hope you can heal up ok. |
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On 11/22/16 8:22 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 6:50:54 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Oh man, that is so misfortune. Hope you can heal up ok. I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K.. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:30:18 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/22/16 10:20 AM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Fortunately, I could walk to campus. :) Do a lot of riding on that Ducati now, eh? |
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Califbill wrote: wrote: On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 12:37:40 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now. That would be almost $4US a gallon and we are paying less than $2 in Ft Myers. There dollar is only about .86 of our dollar last I looked. I think it's closer to $.75. Have not been up for over a year. |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K. Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder. The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway. I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. |
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- show quoted text - Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder. The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway. I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank. ..... If you're on Facebook there's several Beemer bike and parts sites you might try that. I Lao know a guy in s. Illinois that deals in used Guzzi and BMW parts bikes. His pricing is fair. If you need his number let me know .. I'd still claim it and let the ins co total it but only if they have a "buy it back" clause. Like John said. May as well let the ins co pay for some of the parts. That's what you've paid premiums for. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:00:56 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K. Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder. The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway. I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank. Well, that helps explain the interest in the Stelvio. Ewww. Damage sounds more than superficial. Moto Guzzi made a bike called the Quota, which was similar to the Paris Dakar. Rode one in Europe. Nice riding bike, but the windscreen was too low for me. Wind tried to pull my helmet off. There is a place up in Lynnwood, WA, that sells used bike parts. I lost a lid to a Calafia saddlebag, from a 1974 Guzzi, and damn if they didn't have one in stock. Bent Bike Shop: http://www.bentbikemotorcycles.com/xcart/ Might be worth giving them a call. ....and here I thought my '89 Guzzi was getting old. |
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On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... I don't know, My GS is a 1000cc bike, but I managed to break my tibia riding my 250cc dirtbike 3 yrs ago down in Baja with much more protective gear including wearing trials boots. Hurts about the same if you ask me. :( |
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On 11/22/16 2:25 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... I don't know, My GS is a 1000cc bike, but I managed to break my tibia riding my 250cc dirtbike 3 yrs ago down in Baja with much more protective gear including wearing trials boots. Hurts about the same if you ask me. :( When I got into motorcycles, the popular Japanese and Brit bikes were mostly 125-250 to maybe 500 cc's, and pretty lightly built. With some of today's bikes, you'd need a crane to get them upright if they tipped over. :) I don't remember what the top speed of my Honda was back then, probably because I never hit it. I know the speed limit back in the day on the Kansas Turnpike was 80 mph, but I never did more than 60 or so. |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:41:30 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/22/16 2:25 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... I don't know, My GS is a 1000cc bike, but I managed to break my tibia riding my 250cc dirtbike 3 yrs ago down in Baja with much more protective gear including wearing trials boots. Hurts about the same if you ask me. :( When I got into motorcycles, the popular Japanese and Brit bikes were mostly 125-250 to maybe 500 cc's, and pretty lightly built. With some of today's bikes, you'd need a crane to get them upright if they tipped over. :) I don't remember what the top speed of my Honda was back then, probably because I never hit it. I know the speed limit back in the day on the Kansas Turnpike was 80 mph, but I never did more than 60 or so. My 1st bike for a whole day was a Honda Cub, if you could call it a bike. I bought it from a neighbor friend. The very next day as I got off the school bus I noticed a fire truck in front of our house, When I got to the driveway there was my Cub burnt to a crisp, and my Mom standing off to the side next to a empty gas can. Thats how I found out my Mom didn't like motorcycles. |
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 11:41:30 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 2:25 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:56:31 AM UTC-8, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... I don't know, My GS is a 1000cc bike, but I managed to break my tibia riding my 250cc dirtbike 3 yrs ago down in Baja with much more protective gear including wearing trials boots. Hurts about the same if you ask me. :( When I got into motorcycles, the popular Japanese and Brit bikes were mostly 125-250 to maybe 500 cc's, and pretty lightly built. With some of today's bikes, you'd need a crane to get them upright if they tipped over. :) I don't remember what the top speed of my Honda was back then, probably because I never hit it. I know the speed limit back in the day on the Kansas Turnpike was 80 mph, but I never did more than 60 or so. My 1st bike for a whole day was a Honda Cub, if you could call it a bike. I bought it from a neighbor friend. The very next day as I got off the school bus I noticed a fire truck in front of our house, When I got to the driveway there was my Cub burnt to a crisp, and my Mom standing off to the side next to a empty gas can. Thats how I found out my Mom didn't like motorcycles. Yikes! My mom only wanted to do that to a couple of the girls I dated! -- Posted with my iPhone 7+. |
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wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... If you have a road bike with crash bars and you can just lay it down, stay tucked in and you will be OK as a general rule but hitting something head on is always bad. The only time I ever laid a bike down or even got hurt was dirt riding. My Benelli was fun out in the woods but I did crash a few times |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:29 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... If you have a road bike with crash bars and you can just lay it down, stay tucked in and you will be OK as a general rule but hitting something head on is always bad. The only time I ever laid a bike down or even got hurt was dirt riding. My Benelli was fun out in the woods but I did crash a few times You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. |
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3:06 PMPoquito Loco - show quoted text - You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. ..... Nope. I disagree. I laid down my cb450 Honda just moments before it slid and slammed into 88 yr. old "grannie blue-hair" who had just pulled out in front of me. She was driving a 1972 Buick Electra 225 and I swear she couldn't see over the steering wheel! |
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On 11/22/2016 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: . It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck. I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much. Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is this just more of your "same same" delusion? How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates, unless all you hauled was suitcases. Same way you call a van a truck. If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial plate van. I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis basically. I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV) Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in the VIN) There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN if it is there. (position 4-7) I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a dream. I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.:( Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K. Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder. The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway. I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank. Hope you and the bike heal 100%. |
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On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never recommend it. |
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On 11/22/2016 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:06 PMPoquito Loco - show quoted text - You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. .... Nope. I disagree. I laid down my cb450 Honda just moments before it slid and slammed into 88 yr. old "grannie blue-hair" who had just pulled out in front of me. She was driving a 1972 Buick Electra 225 and I swear she couldn't see over the steering wheel! Ha! That's what riding in Florida was all about. I used to head for the roads less traveled. |
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